International Measles Resurgence in America (2025)

[BFoe]

It looks like he just kinda did.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: Measles outbreak is call to action for all of us

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., tells readers what his agency is doing and what they can do to stop the measles outbreak that has claimed a child's life in Texas.

www.foxnews.com

It’s certainly a much better response than I expected, but really is like 20 years too late. It’s like when Trump admitted he got a COVID booster and the crowd booed; after you spent a bunch of time minimizing vaccines and spreading nonsense,
it’s tough to just do an about-face and have that same audience go along with you.
If he continues that messaging and we see some major increases in vaccination rates, I’ll be happy to give him some credit.

I understand the intense criticism for RFK, and he might be misguided if not flat out wrong on certain aspects of the massive US health and medical establishment and all that entails (a whole hell of a lot), but he's not out to hurt Americans. People should give him a chance.

I think to say he’s wrong about “some aspects” of our massive healthcare system minimizes it quite a bit, no?
I mean, the dude is wrong about whether or not HIV causes AIDS for example, that’s kind of a big one
His type of wrongness is outright quackery.

 

[Blayt7hh]

A well-respected scientific review tells us that decades of MMR safety testing is “largely inadequate” and that’s your response?



Wrong. It’s 1/640 which comes out to nearly 6000 febrile seizures a year (US alone with just this vaccine- other vaccines are also know to lead to febrile seizures).

MMR vaccination and febrile seizures: evaluation of susceptible subgroups and long-term prognosis - PubMed

MMR vaccination was associated with a transient increased rate of febrile seizures but the risk difference was small even in high-risk children. The long-term rate of epilepsy was not increased in children who had febrile seizures following vaccination compared with children who had febrile...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It’s obvious you’re posting an article that you don’t understand. There are multiple errors in that article, but most-relevant to our discussion is the fact that they use deceptive figures in an attempt to exaggerate the risk of measles by focusing on clinical cases rather than total measles infections (eg claiming 1/500 measles cases leads to death). This is probably how you came to the ridiculous conclusion that measles caused 9000+ febrile seizures a year prior to vaccination. Your article also provides zero citations supporting your assertion, so it’s hard for me to figure out where they’re pulling this from.

This is a common misinformation technique (ignoring the vast majority of sub clinical measles cases), so it’s not necessarily your fault for falling for it. Luckily, this is easily debunked by referencing the CDC, as noted below:

Measles Secular Trends in the United States​

• About 500,000 reported cases and 500 deaths annually before vaccine
• Actual cases estimated at 3 to 4 million

Chapter 13: Measles

Read about measles and vaccination, including vaccine safety, efficacy, storage, and reporting.

www.cdc.gov

If you can demonstrate an understanding of the figures above by calculating an actual measles death rate, then we can continue this conversation. Otherwise, I’ll let you have the last word.

Bro, you can’t be downplaying pneumonia in one post and upselling seizures in another. Pneumonia is a hell of a lot more serious than a seizure.

If you take anything from this thread I hope it’s that you did t realize what you didn’t know when you started, and snipping out a good sounding paragraph from a scientific article isn’t enough to carry the argument.

 

[Deorum]

It’s certainly a much better response than I expected, but really is like 20 years too late. It’s like when Trump admitted he got a COVID booster and the crowd booed; after you spent a bunch of time minimizing vaccines and spreading nonsense,
it’s tough to just do an about-face and have that same audience go along with you.
If he continues that messaging and we see some major increases in vaccination rates, I’ll be happy to give him some credit.


I think to say he’s wrong about “some aspects” of our massive healthcare system minimizes it quite a bit, no?
I mean, the dude is wrong about whether or not HIV causes AIDS for example, that’s kind of a big one
His type of wrongness is outright quackery.

I mean, it's a good start. He's trying his best!

 

[Belaya Smert]

We know its the influx of undocumented and unvaccinated immigrants. Political spin is trying to minimize leaving the border unsecured for the last four years. In the middle of a god damn communicable disease outbreak no less.
Give me a fucking break. We don’t hold the leaders of different political parties to the same level of scrutiny on this issue and its glaringly obvious. Based solely on rhetoric ,feelings, and how my preferred media source tells me how to feel about it.

 

[Seano]

It’s certainly a much better response than I expected, but really is like 20 years too late. It’s like when Trump admitted he got a COVID booster and the crowd booed; after you spent a bunch of time minimizing vaccines and spreading nonsense,
it’s tough to just do an about-face and have that same audience go along with you.
If he continues that messaging and we see some major increases in vaccination rates, I’ll be happy to give him some credit.


I think to say he’s wrong about “some aspects” of our massive healthcare system minimizes it quite a bit, no?
I mean, the dude is wrong about whether or not HIV causes AIDS for example, that’s kind of a big one
His type of wrongness is outright quackery.

RFK has says he supports the childhood vaccine program we've had in the states for decades. Don't believe everything Whoopi Goldberg tells you.

 

[BFoe]

I mean, it's a good start. He's trying his best!

You want me to give him a chance, and I want to put him on a rocket and launch him into the sun.
Let’s meet in the middle and exile him to a desert island or something

RFK has says he supports the childhood vaccine program we've had in the states for decades. Don't believe everything Whoopi Goldberg tells you.

The ol “Hurr Durr, you watch the View” trope is so tired.
RFK has an absolutely abysmal record of vaccine support. Period. He is a constant stream of misinformation and bullshit. His record on it is public for all to see, and he wrote extensively about in his book. He’s an anti-vaxxer who spreads bizarre CTs, often of the racist variety.

 

[Sinister]

Hey while we're at it:

Case of German measles confirmed in San Antonio at Legacy Traditional School

A confirmed case of Rubella has been reported at a San Antonio-area school.

news4sanantonio.com