Marc Goddard is terrible.

Yea he's not very good. Has a bit of a napolean complex mixed with a good bit of big john McCarthy in him
 
What is this Marc Goddard mass hysteria recently? The guy is doing his job properly, he is supposed to stop the fight when one fighter is no longer intelligently defending himself.

Its like people see one fight where a fighter makes a crazy comeback when the fight should have been stopped, and they now use that as their argument that all fights should be allowed to get to that point. For every one crazy comeback, you will have 10 CTE beatdowns, but of course when the fighter makes a comeback 'great reffing, good thing he didn't stop it', but when the fighters fails to make a comeback 'terrible stoppage, should have never let it go on for that long'
 
MetaIIica said:
I've witnessed Marc Goddard ruin a few title fights by stopping them prematurely such as Colby Usman 1, Periera vs Adesanya 1, Periera vs Jiri, and now he stops the Cedric Doumbe fight after he stepped on glass inside the octagon. This ref is a serious problem and there's only going to be more problems going forward especially in title fights Marc Goddard has proven he CAN NOT BE TRUSTED in high stress situations.
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Ive been saying that. Fuck Goddard.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
There isn't a function for the ref to pause the fight to call the doctor to come in and remove glass. The only thing that is supposed to pause for is an immediate check if someone can continue. There are no time out, and fighters especially can't call them. That fight WAS over, whether you idiots want to cry about it or not. The only difference is the loss vs a genuine no contest, because how the fuck does a fight go on with broken glass in the cage? But if they pulled glass out of his foot after, then it should be overturned, but that doesn't mean Marc should have done anything different.
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If there is no function for the ref to pause a fight to remove a foreign object from a fighter, then a ref should have the critical thinking skills to do it themselves. You have to be a bootlicking moron to think that Ref's can't exercise good judgement in moments where there are no policies in place to address an incident. "Just keep going" is a dumb mentality to have when it comes to fighter safety that's been compromised due to bad cage conditions.

Terrible look for PFL and Paris.
 
I.Broke.The.Bat! said:
Did you even watched the fight? It was a small splinter...Nothing to say here, Doumbe quitted
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Doumbe had no idea the fight would get stopped due to that. It was pure miscommunication because PFL and Paris are too garbage to either afford French speaking Ref's or a microphone for a translator in the ear of the Ref. Also, Doumbe didn't call for the stop the second time, the other fight did. Did you even watch"ed" the fight?
 
PooInYourCereal said:
If there is no function for the ref to pause a fight to remove a foreign object from a fighter, then a ref should have the critical thinking skills to do it themselves. You have to be a bootlicking moron to think that Ref's can't exercise good judgement in moments where there are no policies in place to address an incident. "Just keep going" is a dumb mentality to have when it comes to fighter safety that's been compromised due to bad cage conditions.

Terrible look for PFL and Paris.
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You can't call a timeout. That's just how it works. I've seen fights stopped literally just because a fighter put his hand up before resetting his finger. Not because he reset his finger, he was totally able to reset his finger in the fight, but the fact he asked for a timeout means the fight is over.

The very purpose of the ref is to try and make the fight continue immediately, and the ultimate irony here is, the biggest complaint people have about Goddard is how much he inserts himself, but want him to excercise more fight-pausing discretion despite not having a specific function to do so.

The bad cage conditions could and should result in a no contest, because the contest could not be fairly decided when a fighter becomes compromised by the bad cage conditions, which means the fight should have been stopped anyway. Use that critical thinking skill you're advertising to others.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
You can't call a timeout. That's just how it works. I've seen fights stopped literally just because a fighter put his hand up before resetting his finger. Not because he reset his finger, he was totally able to reset his finger in the fight, but the fact he asked for a timeout means the fight is over.

The very purpose of the ref is to try and make the fight continue immediately, and the ultimate irony here is, the biggest complaint people have about Goddard is how much he inserts himself, but want him to excercise more fight-pausing discretion despite not having a specific function to do so.

The bad cage conditions could and should result in a no contest, because the contest could not be fairly decided when a fighter becomes compromised by the bad cage conditions, which means the fight should have been stopped anyway. Use that critical thinking skill you're advertising to others.
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In moments where there is no policy in place, Ref's are absolutely given the discretion to exercise good judgement. If beer bottles fly into the ring, does the fight continue? Absolutely not. If any foreign object enters the ring and hinders a fighter, it is imperative that the Ref exercise could judgement and find a way to pause the action and dispose of the foreign object.

My problem with Goddard is not his involvement itself, but the fact that he exercises very bad judgement along with unnecessarily belligerent and argumentative tendencies.

You would have a good point except Goofball Goddard immediately called it a TKO. Factor that into your critical thinking skills. The PFL and Paris failed their fighter and, in this instance, Goddard was an representative of both of those entities. Instead of taking accountability for a highly unusual incident caused by the bad management of the company and commission, he decided to punish the fighter with a TKO. A no contest would have been a very acceptable result from this, but that is not what happened.
 
PooInYourCereal said:
In moments where there is no policy in place, Ref's are absolutely given the discretion to exercise good judgement. If beer bottles fly into the ring, does the fight continue? Absolutely not. If any foreign object enters the ring and hinders a fighter, it is imperative that the Ref exercise could judgement and find a way to pause the action and dispose of the foreign object.

My problem with Goddard is not his involvement itself, but the fact that he exercises very bad judgement along with unnecessarily belligerent and argumentative tendencies.


You would have a good point except Goofball Goddard immediately called it a TKO. Factor that into your critical thinking skills. The PFL and Paris failed their fighter and, in this instance, Goddard was an representative of both of those entities. Instead of taking accountability for a highly unusual incident caused by the bad management of the company and commission, he decided to punish the fighter with a TKO. A no contest would have been a very acceptable result from this, but that is not what happened.
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They can remove the object BEFORE it hinders the action. After if has hindered the action, then you now have a foreign problem that affected a fighter, and blah blah fast forward to no contest, like I said from the beginning.

Once the situation becomes, the fighter becomes affected before your knowledge of glass and they decide to stop fighting, then you DO call the action off instantly, and TKO is the only answer until they can determine there was glass. It's a pretty simple flowchart.
 
MetaIIica said:
I've witnessed Marc Goddard ruin a few title fights by stopping them prematurely such as Colby Usman 1, Periera vs Adesanya 1, Periera vs Jiri, and now he stops the Cedric Doumbe fight after he stepped on glass inside the octagon. This ref is a serious problem and there's only going to be more problems going forward especially in title fights Marc Goddard has proven he CAN NOT BE TRUSTED in high stress situations.
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Perreira/Izzy 1?? really? That fight was as good of a stoppage as you can get. Izzy was done.
 
Watching these highlights reminded me how he gifted O’Malley the belt with a super early stoppage. Pretty terrible
 
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