Because all the other guys in the division outweigh him by 10-15 lbs and such a weight advantage is very hard to overcome? Just a guess.
Can't really say I saw size as the determining factor against Lopez.
I think it was more the timing and hand speed of Lopez.
I wouldn't agree with that entirely (his KO of Martinez is pretty impressive) but I think the general idea that he's not a natural power puncher is correct.
I think Garcia is a bigger problem than Tank honestly; Haney might be able to outbox him too though we haven't seen Haney in there with any real competition yet to measure him with. I think Loma dances his way around Tank, too slow on foot.
the same way RJJ didn't belong at HW. Sure, he could technically make the weight, but the old adage "a great little guy loses to a very good big guy" is an adage for a reason.
I reject that comparison. Going from light heavy to heavyweight is not the same as going from 130to 135, especially when Roy's fight was a one off.
well too bad, I'm using it and its valid even if there is a difference of degree. Do you want me to use another comparison? there are plenty of examples of fighters going up in weight and not looking the same because they enter a division where their power and physical strength don't carry up.
How many times does a guy have to defend a championship against other ranked guys in a weight class before he belongs there? He was literally the face of the lw division.
loma's a fucking idiot. Just fight at 130, you were never really meant to go above that anyhow. There are plenty of good fights to be made there.
whether or not you can beat the fighters at that weight has nothing to do with if it's your natural weight. Mikey Garcia is a lot smaller than the 147ers, doesn't mean he's a natural 147er. Dude should be fighting at LW or JWW. You're being obtuse here.
I mean he's a famous fighter, this isn't some kind of enormous discovery
Lol at me being obtuse. No one said he didn't belong at lw until he got clowned.Now his fans pretend its the only reason Lopez beat him. Did people say Pac didn't belong at welter when Horn outpointed him?
Saying size wasn't a factor is deluded, so you're right, I should have used deluded instead of obtuse.
I said it at least a few times (or rather I said I'd rather see him at 130 and that I anticipated he woudl lose once he fought a bigger guy with good skills, like Lopez or a few other guys in the division). Loma was openly talking about returnign to 130 if he beat Lopez. Most people on here acknowledged that Loma was outsized and outmuscled by most of hte division. That doesn't mean he didn't belong, you stay there until you see fit to leave. But he clearly was on the smaller end of hte division and htat tends ot be an issue for fighters.
A lot of people were simply calling on Pac to retire at that point but yeah plenty of people said Pac was too small for 147 even prior to Horn; Horn isn't a particularly good fighter and he just outmuscled/outsized Pac. Pac's just a much better fighter than Loma and was able to overcome the size deficit with skill at his peak.
Specifically who? Nobody is saying this. I said size would be factor among a number of things, including Lopez being clearly very talented.
well Teo is a much better fighter than Campbell. Hence size not being hte only factor, somehting which nobody claimed to begin with.
I feel like Loma's loss justified your stance towards him but the part I put in bold isn't true.
I'm not sure I understand this post.
Do you believe he lost to Lopez because he was too small?
He looks suitable for 130 and 126 definitely. not for 135.
Well. he barely had dealt with Campbell and Linares. Linares was irl competitive vs him until get this liver punch from Loma.
Yes, I do know, you need to be punched in the face by someone who knows how to punch and then you will understand boxing better.
I hate to go there but have you ever boxed?
