Elections Life after the Trumpokalipse? New research shows the massive hole Dems are in

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Even voters who previously backed Democrats cast the party as weak and overly focused on diversity and elites.

By ELENA SCHNEIDER
12/22/2024 02:00 PM EST
Updated: 12/22/2024 02:56 PM EST


Democrats conducting post-mortems on their sweeping losses in 2024 are finding more reason for alarm. And the problem isn’t just Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.

In a trio of focus groups, even voters who previously backed Democrats cast the party as weak and overly focused on diversity and elites, according to research by the progressive group Navigator Research.
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When asked to compare the Democratic Party to an animal, one participant compared the party to an ostrich because “they’ve got their heads in the sand and are absolutely committed to their own ideas, even when they’re failing.” Another likened them to koalas, who “are complacent and lazy about getting policy wins that we really need.” Democrats, another said, are “not a friend of the working class anymore.”
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The focus group research, shared first with POLITICO, represents the latest troubling pulse check for a party still sorting through the wreckage of its November losses and looking for a path to rebuild. Without a clear party leader and with losses across nearly every demographic in November, Democrats are walking into a second Trump presidency without a unified strategy to improve their electoral prospects. And while some Democrats blame Biden, others blame inflation and still others blame “losing hold of culture,” the feedback from the focus groups found Democrats’ problems are even more widespread and potentially long-lasting than a single election cycle.

The focus groups offer “a pretty scathing rebuke” of the Democratic Party brand, said Rachael Russell, director of polling and analytics at Navigator Research, a project within the Hub Project, which is a Democratic nonprofit group.

“This weakness they see, [Democrats] not getting things done, not being able to actually fight for people — is something that needs to be figured out,” Russell said. “It might not be the message, it might be the policy. It might be something a little bit deeper that has to be addressed by the party.”
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The focus groups — held immediately after the 2024 election and conducted by GBAO, a Democratic polling firm — featured three kinds of voters: young men in battleground states who voted for Biden in 2020 and Trump in 2024; voters in battleground states who voted for Biden in 2020 but didn’t vote at all in 2024; and voters in blue states who had previously voted for Democrats, a third party candidate or didn’t vote in 2020 but voted for Trump in 2024.
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“I think what the Democratic elites and their politicians believe is often very different from what the average Democratic voter is,” said a Georgia man who voted for Biden in 2020 but Trump in 2024. “The elites that run the Democratic Party — I think they’re way too obsessed with appealing to these very far-left social progressivism that’s very popular on college campuses.”

These voters voiced cautious optimism about Trump’s second term, both in the focus groups and a post-election poll that found Trump’s highest approval rating since 2020 in a GBAO survey. The national poll, which surveyed 1,000 people, found 47 percent viewed Trump favorably, while 50 percent disapproved of him — the highest marks he’s received since he left office.

Russell argued that Trump’s high marks reflect a “honeymoon” period, which she predicted will fade once he takes office: “Once things start happening, it’s going to take a turn, and so it’s going to rely really heavily on the actions in the first 100 days to see how we go from here.”

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She also noted that the polling suggests openings for Democrats on issues like abortion, health care and taxing the rich, as well as a fear that Trump may go too far on tariffs. Their survey also showed that two-thirds of voters said inflation should be the incoming president’s top issue, but only a third of voters believed it was Trump’s or Republicans’ top issue.

When the focus group participants were asked about inflation and tariffs, many of them said they didn’t fully understand the policy, while others acknowledged they expected prices to go up.

“Obviously I wouldn’t want stuff to go up, but at the same time, in the long run, would it be better off for America and maybe having more stuff made here?” said one man from Wisconsin.
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Even though the focus group voters did not solely blame Harris for their distaste of the Democratic Party, they also weren’t happy about her candidacy. Participants described her as “inauthentic,” “very dishonest” and “did not seem competent.”

An Arizona man, citing the time Harris said, “you better thank a union member,” during a speech in Detroit, said “that was very disingenuous to me because I didn’t see an honest person that could be president.”

“It seemed like a lot of what she came out and said wasn’t really off-the-cuff, wasn’t coming from her,” said another man who voted for Biden in 2020 and Trump in 2024. “Seemed like every interview, every time she came out and talked about something, it was planned out and never her thoughts, didn’t seem genuine to her thoughts, whereas, Trump, even though you never really knew what he was going to say, when he was going to say it, it was always him and genuine to what he thought, so that’s what swayed me.”
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The feedback on Harris comes as the vice president mulls her own future, weighing a third presidential run against a bid for California governor in 2026. Some party loyalists have said they’d back another presidential run, arguing that Biden’s late exit from the race burdened the vice president’s three-month sprint. But others are not ready to get on board for it.

Several participants also raised the transgender attack ad that the Trump campaign deployed against Harris, which showed a 2019 clip of her expressing support for gender affirming surgery for state prison inmates. The ad’s tagline included: “Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you.”

Democrats disagree on the potency of the attack ad, but several participants raised it unprompted in the focus groups.

Lagging turnout was a major problem for Democrats in November. One woman from Georgia who didn’t vote in 2024 said that she didn’t agree with Harris’ “thinking that it’s okay for children to change their body parts.”

“I think that there needs to be some parameters on what’s accepted in society and what isn’t. Some of the societal norms, and I think that the Democrats have tried to open that up a little too much,” said a woman from Wisconsin who also didn’t vote in 2024.

When asked by the moderator if she was referring to the “trans issue,” the woman said, “primarily that.”

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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/22/democrats-2024-election-problem-focus-group-00195806
 
Well, more likely the establishment Democrats think Trump will screw up so badly that they don't have to make any of these changes and they'll win next time around.

I think that makes them completely incompetent fools who should have no leadership position in the DNC at all.

"This weakness they see, [Democrats] not getting things done, not being able to actually fight for people — is something that needs to be figured out,” Russell"
 
It's pretty insane for the party that tries to brand itself as hip and progressive to trot out the oldest man possible out of desperation, then run a charisma vacuum like Kamala when he steps down. In a way they are still paying for running Hillary, a candidate that nobody likes. All you had to do was beat The Apprentice guy and things go so differently. Obama seemed so special, it's just a parade of imitators now.
 
Tactic should be: Abandon social justice causes, throw them to the wolves and focus on the betterment of life for EVERYONE regardless of race, sexual orientation, or if they identify as pansexual Yoda. The basics. Support police and anti crime legislation.

Healthcare, housing, wages for the little man. Fight against corporations, not for them. Go back to trying to be the party of blue collar workers and the little man.
 
Tactic should be: Abandon social justice causes, throw them to the wolves and focus on the betterment of life for EVERYONE regardless of race, sexual orientation, or if they identify as pansexual Yoda. The basics. Support police and anti crime legislation.

Healthcare, housing, wages for the little man. Fight against corporations, not for them. Go back to trying to be the party of blue collar workers and the little man.


I agree they should


But they can't. They have become a party of the elite and totally look down on working class people and their culture and the culture issues are in my opinion why the democrats lose when they shouldn't
 
Tactic should be: Abandon social justice causes, throw them to the wolves and focus on the betterment of life for EVERYONE regardless of race, sexual orientation, or if they identify as pansexual Yoda. The basics. Support police and anti crime legislation.

Healthcare, housing, wages for the little man. Fight against corporations, not for them. Go back to trying to be the party of blue collar workers and the little man.
I think I agree with this largely man. When they talk about special programs for certain races all I can think of is that every single person should have those programs.

You want to help minorities make state colleges and tech training scores and trade schools free. You want to help minorities let's do universal health care.... you want to help minorities let's get a living wage going....
 
The party got complacent because of GOATbama.

Only reason they won 2020 is because of Dump's incompetence. Somehow they tried their best to match that incompetence by not focusing on what matters. Now they only have themselves to blame.
 
I think I agree with this largely man. When they talk about special programs for certain races all I can think of is that every single person should have those programs.

You want to help minorities make state colleges and tech training scores and trade schools free. You want to help minorities let's do universal health care.... you want to help minorities let's get a living wage going....
I mean, I am Canadian. I would like nothing better than to see someone necronomicon Jack Layton back from the dead so the NDP becomes a working class party again.

Currently stuck with all parties that suck. Same boat. Folks actually believe the conservatives are going to be the party fighting for the working class because the liberals under trudeau and NDP under singh just double and triple down on race/gender/divisive bullshit and ignore what the people want.
 
Just like the left wing parties in my country - the party of the rich. Just look at the areas that vote for them, the demographics that vote for them, look at the massive corporations that support them.

Your average person cares about putting food on the table, a roof over their heads, safety, jobs, energy prices and cheap fuel... they don't have the luxury to be preoccupied with all the latest, trendy "progressive" political causes, that's the privilege of the "elites".

Until they left get that through their thick skulls, they are screwed.
 
They’re so fucking stupid that I’m surprised they even got 10% of the votes. Seriously, the fact that it was even a contest is just disturbing. The race and gender stuff is more than enough for me, even if they got every other fucken thing right, it wouldn’t make up for their outright discrimination and abandonment of all common sense for the sake of their insane ideology.

In a sane society, the first person who suggested that a child should have their genitals removed in the name of queer religion, should have been led away in a straight jacket. Whoever first suggested that racism is OK if it’s against white people, should have been sent to the same mental institution.

The fact that any of these insane ideas ever even got off the ground is mind-boggling to me. Many conservatives are also to blame for this, simply for allowing it to happen and for being complete cowards in many cases. But the Democrats who got on board with it and tried to force it upon us should never be forgiven and let off the hook.
 
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Don't worry Dems Charlie Kirk and the TPUSA crowd is doing what they can to undermine the MAGA movement by embracing grifters that will destroy it within.
 
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I honestly cannot imagine my life without waking up and thanking god for president trump.

I think I will have to settle for a term or two of vice president trump (don jr), before Don jr then takes over for Vance, setting the stage for Barron as his vice president and then to be eventual president.

That gives me at least 28 years or living my life under the trump dynasty
 


Don't worry Dems Charlie Kirk and the TPUSA crowd is doing what they can to undermine the MAGA movement but embracing grifters that will destroy it within.

I wouldn’t assume that too many on the right are embracing him, we’re just more willing to let people talk and treat people with basic dignity, even if we disagree with them.
 


Don't worry Dems Charlie Kirk and the TPUSA crowd is doing what they can to undermine the MAGA movement by embracing grifters that will destroy it within.

Cenk is a clown, and I question his motives I feel he might just be hopping on the bandwagon to raise his following.

On the other hand, what a Democrat was 20 years ago would almost be classified as a Republican now, the goalposts have moved that far.

If you listenened to a few Bill Clinton speeches during his presidency, he would absolutely be called right-wing now.
 
They are in more disarray than any major party I've seen since maybe 2008. They're clueless on messaging and don't want to learn any lessons.
 
The party got complacent because of GOATbama.
He was goat...ISH before 2014. I am just glad in 2014 the American people told him to go F himself when he tried to get us full bore into Syria with his "nothing is off the table" speach.
Only reason they won 2020 is because of Dump's incompetence.
You already knew you were wrong as you typed that. Show me ONE president in the western hemisphere that really killed it during the pandemic. It was the pandemic that threw a monkey wrench in that election.
Somehow they tried their best to match that incompetence by not focusing on what matters. Now they only have themselves to blame.
They did the best they could by tripling down on the DEI hire candidate nonsense. With a dash of "if you don't vote for kamalalalaa you jus waycis and sexis!!"
 
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