Law Judge Hannah Dugan arrested by FBI for allegedly helping undocumented immigrant 'evade arrest'

[Limbo Pete]

If I lie under oath that doesn't mean that you get charged because you know me.

That other judge was indicted on serious criminal charges.

Yeah, that's not what I said. But yes that situation was much more complicated. This one is not an accurate comparison.

 

[BFoe]

Touche. Hunter self surrendered as well. I uses "every other person" as a pejorative for us common people.

Although wasn't one of Trump's advisors cuffed in an airport and another have his home raided by officers with "evil assault weapons"?

Yeah, Peter Navarro had been indicted for defying Jan 6 subpoenas and was arrested at an airport trying to board a flight. I’m not sure about the other incident you’re referencing. They did raid Roger Stone’s house several years ago, but I’m not sure I’d consider him a person of good repute that I’d trust to turn himself in.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Yeah, Peter Navarro had been indicted for defying Jan 6 subpoenas and was arrested at Ian airport trying to board a flight. I’m not sure about the other incident you’re referencing. They did raid Roger Stone’s house several years ago, but I’m not sure I’d consider him a person of good repute that I’d trust to turn himself in.

Roger Stone is literally the Penguin and I will stand on that hill

 

[BFoe]

Roger Stone is literally the Penguin and I will stand on that hill

 

[AWilder]

Roger Stone is literally the Penguin and I will stand on that hill

also literally a cuck

 

[Andy Capp]

LOL @ the crickets following this,

Did his family mot grift off "The Big Guy"'s name?

Did he not have classified documents in his residents from a time period that he had no right to them?

Did he not pardon his family from crimes - including failure to pay federal taxes.

Yeah, I could whatabout the Big Guy, but that wasn't what I was doing. That was just @Andy Capp trying to deflect from the fact that all the left was saying this judge broke no laws and now they're realizing that this judge fafo'ed.

LOL @ this bullshit. Show me.

A blown airbag, not worth a fuck.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

LOL @ the crickets following this,





A blown airbag, not worth a fuck.

You're the one that brought whataboutism when I maid a post following another posters info.

And yeah, it's sad that she broke the law to help a wife beater that was already deported before ellude arrest.

Not sure what I said to hurt your feelings, but you'll get over it....or you won't. Either way you'll still be an idiot.

 

[Andy Capp]

You're the one that brought whataboutism when I maid a post following another posters info.

*maid

And I did no such thing. LOL what a cop out.

You said I deflected and I call that bullshit, a lie even. Show me; quote the text where I did that.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

*maid

And I did no such thing. LOL what a cop out.

You said I deflected and I call that bullshit, a lie even. Show me; quote the text where I did that.

So, what was up with the comment above? Just looking for an excuse to chime in on "whatabout Biden"? - Andy Capp

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[Andy Capp]

So, what was up with the comment above? Just looking for an excuse to chime in on "whatabout Biden"? - Andy Capp

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Yes, I pointed out the whataboutism, because it's a kind of deflection--that you participated in.

They were separate discussions, you tool. We agreed that it may be appropriate for the judge this thread is about to face some sort of disciplinary action but not arrest.

Then, the "whatabout Biden's DOJ and this other judge" in a completely different situation started, which you chimed in on. And then you accused me of deflecting. Hypocrite.

My position:

The issue isn't merely whether it's ok or not; it's whether it's illegal or not.

At what point did I deflect from that? I never asserted she "did nothing wrong".

 

[James Bomb]

I was looking for something analogous in terms of obstruction. Like pointing out that they had the wrong warrant amounting to obstruction. Or allowing someone to leave through a side door while the feds watched amounting to obstruction.

Thought that was obvious.



I really doubt it will go to a verdict at all. I'm thinking and immediate dismissal as soon as it hits a docket. But we can settle for your standard.

They tried to do the same thing back in 2019, and charges were dismissed.

ICE’s New Courthouse Arrest Policy Set Them on a Collision Course with State Courts

The arrest of a Wisconsin judge comes after ICE walked back policies designed to ensure communities wouldn’t be afraid to access courts

statecourtreport.org

Having ICE pull people out of the courthouse is just shockingly bad public policy. Like dystopian third world justice style stuff.

 

[Sinister]

They tried to do the same thing back in 2019, and charges were dismissed.

ICE’s New Courthouse Arrest Policy Set Them on a Collision Course with State Courts

The arrest of a Wisconsin judge comes after ICE walked back policies designed to ensure communities wouldn’t be afraid to access courts

statecourtreport.org

Having ICE pull people out of the courthouse is just shockingly bad public policy. Like dystopian third world justice style stuff.

It creates a lack of faith in the court system. What's the use of going to Court if you're just going to use that as an opportunity to punish me before the process is over? If LEO's can do this, then Court means nothing essentially. However for immigration none of it meant anything anyway. First they said criminal records, then they said "they're all criminals since entering illegally is a crime"...this is just systemic xenophobia and nothing more. The right are attempting to use this poisoned outlook of the citizenry as a reason to roll back civil rights and have people applaud it.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Yes, I pointed out the whataboutism, because it's a kind of deflection. That you participated in.

They were separate discussions, you tool. We agreed that it may be appropriate for the judge this thread is about to face some sort of disciplinary action but not arrest.

Then, the "whatabout Biden's DOJ and this other judge" in a completely different situation started, which you chimed in on. And then you accused me of deflecting. Hypocrite.

My position:

At what point did I deflect from that? I never asserted she "did nothing wrong".

I don't agree that she shouldn't face arrest.

After further info was posted I said the previous judge that pulled this stunt got let off by Biden's DOJ and that this one had better stretch out the trial date until a democrat gets elected.

Your opening post claims it's not democracy. What else would I infer from your comment except that you think it was fine?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

They tried to do the same thing back in 2019, and charges were dismissed.

ICE’s New Courthouse Arrest Policy Set Them on a Collision Course with State Courts

The arrest of a Wisconsin judge comes after ICE walked back policies designed to ensure communities wouldn’t be afraid to access courts

statecourtreport.org

Having ICE pull people out of the courthouse is just shockingly bad public policy. Like dystopian third world justice style stuff.

We've covered this. The charges were dropped by Biden's DOJ and the judge was still removed/barred from being a judge.

That article is pretty slanted though; no mention of illegals arrested in court while they were there because they beat their wives, drug charges, or robbed someone.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

It creates a lack of faith in the court system. What's the use of going to Court if you're just going to use that as an opportunity to punish me before the process is over? If LEO's can do this, then Court means nothing essentially. However for immigration none of it meant anything anyway. First they said criminal records, then they said "they're all criminals since entering illegally is a crime"...this is just systemic xenophobia and nothing more. The right are attempting to use this poisoned outlook of the citizenry as a reason to roll back civil rights and have people applaud it.

You realize that it creates a lack of faith in the courts when a wife beater whose already been deported and snuck back into the country is helped to avoid arrest?

I'll bet his wife lost all faith.

 

[Andy Capp]

I don't agree that she shouldn't face arrest.

After further info was posted I said the previous judge that pulled this stunt got let off by Biden's DOJ and that this one had better stretch out the trial date until a democrat gets elected.

Your opening post claims it's not democracy. What else would I infer from your comment except that you think it was fine?

lol they were two different situations. In the case posted above by @James Bomb, above, which was actually similar to this case, and which occurred during Trump's first term (2019) the judge was charged but the prosecutors dropped the charges before it went to trial. The same should happen here. Whatever you may say about her actions, there isn't any evidence so far that what she did was illegal.

Your comment about "the Biden DOJ" regarding a dissimilar case was the deflection. Get bent.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

lol they were two different situations. In the case posted above by @James Bomb, above, which was actually similar to this case, and which occurred during Trump's first term (2019) the judge was charged but the prosecutors dropped the charges before it went to trial. The same should happen here. Whatever you may say about her actions, there isn't any evidence so far that what she did was illegal.

Your comment about "the Biden DOJ" regarding a dissimilar case was the deflection. Get bent.

It was Biden's DoJ that dropped the case in '22 - it's the same case the other posted about. I think it's pretty obvious that Trump's DOJ won't drop charges.

That isn't a deflection; it's a statement of facts. And it isn't a dissimilar case - damn near identical according to reports.

FFS, people went from "she's not onligated to assist ICE" to "ICE had the wrong type of warrant" to "it creates a lack of faith in the courts" and look at the other case that was dropped by prosecutors - again by a democrat led admin.

 

[James Bomb]

It creates a lack of faith in the court system. What's the use of going to Court if you're just going to use that as an opportunity to punish me before the process is over? If LEO's can do this, then Court means nothing essentially. However for immigration none of it meant anything anyway. First they said criminal records, then they said "they're all criminals since entering illegally is a crime"...this is just systemic xenophobia and nothing more. The right are attempting to use this poisoned outlook of the citizenry as a reason to roll back civil rights and have people applaud it.

Yeah, that's always the whole point... to corrupt justice while they are pretending like they are defending it. The Fourth Amendment is one of the most critical civil rights in a free society. To pretend like Trump's bullshit manufactured emergency or even immigration law is more important than it it is just blatant dishonesty.

The Trump Justice Department knows that this case is total bullshit. I think most of the Trump nutlickers in this thread know that this case is total bullshit. But fascism always requires the believers to believe all the lies, both the small ones and the big ones.

 

[nostradumbass]

On a positive note for the judge, she'll increase her leftist cred when she shares a cell with a brave tranny.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Yeah, that's always the whole point... to corrupt justice while they are pretending like they are defending it. The Fourth Amendment is one of the most critical civil rights in a free society. To pretend like Trump's bullshit manufactured emergency or even immigration law is more important than it it is just blatant dishonesty.

The Trump Justice Department knows that this case is total bullshit. I think most of the Trump nutlickers in this thread know that this case is total bullshit. But fascism always requires the believers to believe all the lies, both the small ones and the big ones.

Did ICE have a proper warrant which allowed them to arrest the guy at the courthouse or not? And did the judge facilitate his avoidance of the arrest?

Those are the only relevant questions. If judges start disregarding the laws they don't like (some would say they already have) then the justice system is already corrupt.