Law Judge Hannah Dugan arrested by FBI for allegedly helping undocumented immigrant 'evade arrest'

[James Bomb]

It was Biden's DoJ that dropped the case in '22 - it's the same case the other posted about. I think it's pretty obvious that Trump's DOJ won't drop charges.

That isn't a deflection; it's a statement of facts. And it isn't a dissimilar case - damn near identical according to reports.

FFS, people went from "she's not onligated to assist ICE" to "ICE had the wrong type of warrant" to "it creates a lack of faith in the courts" and look at the other case that was dropped by prosecutors - again by a democrat led admin.

They dropped the case for a few reasons. One, it was pretty obvious that the defense attorney, who received immunity from prosecution way too early in the investigation, was the person who coordinated the whole escape scheme.

And the other big reason was that the defense was probably going to win their argument that top ICE officials should provide discovery material for trial about their communications and media appearances regarding the case, and Homan and other Trump officials had already wiped their phones before turning them in. Which meant that the judge was likely to dismiss the case anyways.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.209407/gov.uscourts.mad.209407.131.0.pdf

The defense for this case is probably going to make the same arguments, and I doubt the Trump appointees have shown better restraint in talking about this case than they did back then.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/17/tom-homan-deportation-flights-trump-court-order

 

[James Bomb]

Did ICE have a proper warrant which allowed them to arrest the guy at the courthouse or not? And did the judge facilitate his avoidance of the arrest?

Those are the only relevant questions. If judges start disregarding the laws they don't like (some would say they already have) then the justice system is already corrupt.

Yes, they had an administrative warrant allowed them to make an arrest in the public areas of the courthouse.

And no, the judge did not facilitate the avoidance of an arrest, even if you take the facts in the affidavit at face value.

It's completely absurd that you're arguing for the prosecution of judges for doing their jobs. Major bootlicker energy.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

They dropped the case for a few reasons. One, it was pretty obvious that the defense attorney, who received immunity from prosecution way too early in the investigation, was the person who coordinated the whole escape scheme.

And the other big reason was that the defense was probably going to win their argument that top ICE officials should provide discovery material for trial about their communications and media appearances regarding the case, and Homan and other Trump officials had already wiped their phones before turning them in. Which meant that the judge was likely to dismiss the case anyways.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.209407/gov.uscourts.mad.209407.131.0.pdf

The defense for this case is probably going to make the same arguments, and I doubt the Trump appointees have shown better restraint in talking about this case than they did back then.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/17/tom-homan-deportation-flights-trump-court-order

So you think the DOJ waited 2 years to didmiss over that fairly common plea? 2 courts had already refused to dismiss the case.

The dismissal was a way for the left to avoid charging the judge for clearly violating the law.


Oh, and that pleading never addresses that it was the judge that asked for recording to stop. Maybe the defense lawyer was the one that planned it, but the judge and bailiff certainly went along with it.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Yes, they had an administrative warrant allowed them to make an arrest in the public areas of the courthouse.

And no, the judge did not facilitate the avoidance of an arrest, even if you take the facts in the affidavit at face value.

It's completely absurd that you're arguing for the prosecution of judges for doing their jobs. Major bootlicker energy.

All the witnesses are suggesting that the judge clearly helped him avoid arrest by doing things they can't recall her ever doing before.

Let's see what the grand jury and courts say.



Btw, didn't you tell me the other day that an administrative warrant wasn't sufficient?

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Bitch aided in the escape of a fugitive.

"no one is above the law"

 

[James Bomb]

All the witnesses are suggesting that the judge clearly helped him avoid arrest by doing things they can't recall her ever doing before.

Let's see what the grand jury and courts say.



Btw, didn't you tell me the other day that an administrative warrant wasn't sufficient?

The only evidence of that seems to be incredibly flimsy.

There are lots of pictures of the courtroom floating around now, and the supposed secret jury door leads to a hallway that goes right into the same public hallway as the other door.

This case is so cooked, unless they can come up with some sort of additional evidence.

When you guys step up and serve yourself a big steaming helping of Trump administration bullshit and try to pretend like it's prime rib, it never works out well for you. Like you're constantly nominating yourselves for the "fell for it again" award.

 

[nhbbear]

They tried to do the same thing back in 2019, and charges were dismissed.

ICE’s New Courthouse Arrest Policy Set Them on a Collision Course with State Courts

The arrest of a Wisconsin judge comes after ICE walked back policies designed to ensure communities wouldn’t be afraid to access courts

statecourtreport.org

Having ICE pull people out of the courthouse is just shockingly bad public policy. Like dystopian third world justice style stuff.

If you have a person evading arrest by running from agents, odds are that they would not willingly report to ice agents if simply informed there was an admin warrant. If you know they are going to be in court, I see no issue with arresting them where you find them. This judge purposely obstructed the agents and deserves to be arrested for obstruction of justice. It’s not like agents are randomly checking people’s status. They were specifically looking for this particular man, who again, ran from agents with the help of this judge.

 

[nhbbear]

I used to make arrests and serve warrants at court all the time. Never had an issue that I can recall, where the suspect fought or ran. Usually, if there are warrants, they don’t show up to their court hearing and they get more warrants out out for their arrest for skipping court.

 

[James Bomb]

If you have a person evading arrest by running from agents, odds are that they would not willingly report to ice agents if simply informed there was an admin warrant. If you know they are going to be in court, I see no issue with arresting them where you find them. This judge purposely obstructed the agents and deserves to be arrested for obstruction of justice. It’s not like agents are randomly checking people’s status. They were specifically looking for this particular man, who again, ran from agents with the help of this judge.

You're not compelled to assist with an administrative warrant. It's not the same as a judicial warrant. Which makes it perfectly reasonable for them to wait outside of the non-public area of the courtroom.

The arrested guy left the court and entered the same room that the agents were waiting in, and they saw him there. One of them literally rode with him in the elevator.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

The only evidence of that seems to be incredibly flimsy.

There are lots of pictures of the courtroom floating around now, and the supposed secret jury door leads to a hallway that goes right into the same public hallway as the other door.

This case is so cooked, unless they can come up with some sort of additional evidence.

When you guys step up and serve yourself a big steaming helping of Trump administration bullshit and try to pretend like it's prime rib, it never works out well for you. Like you're constantly nominating yourselves for the "fell for it again" award.

First - she dint have to assist.

Second - they had the wrong type of warrant, she kept them from breaking the law.

Third - he was on an elevator with ICE. This is all BS.

Fourth - people leave from that door all the time. This is no big deal.

Fifth - ok, people never leave through that door, but it leads to the same hallway.


When you keep changing the excuse, you know the defense is shaky

 

[Mr Holmes]

We've covered this. The charges were dropped by Biden's DOJ and the judge was still removed/barred from being a judge.

That article is pretty slanted though; no mention of illegals arrested in court while they were there because they beat their wives, drug charges, or robbed someone.

It was dismissed in favor of a plea deal. So there was some admission of wrong doing. Plus the case went to a 3 judge panel to review if it should be dismissed and ruled it was valid for trial.

 

[nhbbear]

You're not compelled to assist with an administrative warrant. It's not the same as a judicial warrant. Which makes it perfectly reasonable for them to wait outside of the non-public area of the courtroom.

The arrested guy left the court and entered the same room that the agents were waiting in, and they saw him there. One of them literally rode with him in the elevator.

Thank you for explaining the differences. I honestly didn’t know that. I thought they were the same, just issues by the feds and I thought they were signed by a fed judge. However, They were waiting for him to step onto public ground is my guess why they rode down the elevator with him. He still ran when they attempted to arrest him. As for the judge, she was made aware that the agents were waiting to arrest him and she led him out inside door, which is where the harboring charge comes in because she definitely tried to assist him in escaping arrest.

It seems like the left is going to shit kittens every time an illegal is arrested. Personally, I think these tactics should be reserved for more serious criminal offenders here illegally. Not sure why they are picking these particular criminals to arrest. Go after the ones that keep getting arrested and a judge should not interfere with the process. Maybe she doesn’t have to help, but she shouldn’t hinder because she is some social justice crusader with a personal agenda.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Thank you for explaining the differences. I honestly didn’t know that. I thought they were the same, just issues by the feds and I thought they were signed by a fed judge. However, They were waiting for him to step onto public ground is my guess why they rode down the elevator with him. He still ran when they attempted to arrest him. As for the judge, she was made aware that the agents were waiting to arrest him and she led him out inside door, which is where the harboring charge comes in because she definitely tried to assist him in escaping arrest.

It seems like the left is going to shit kittens every time an illegal is arrested. Personally, I think these tactics should be reserved for more serious criminal offenders here illegally. Not sure why they are picking these particular criminals to arrest. Go after the ones that keep getting arrested and a judge should not interfere with the process. Maybe she doesn’t have to help, but she shouldn’t hinder because she is some social justice crusader with a personal agenda.

Personally, I don't think we should bend (and certainly not break) appropriate due process and procedure for _anyone_ regardless of the charge. Doesn't matter if it's a random pot head or a guy that strangles women in their sleep. The integrity of system itself is more important. "But we really want to" isn't an excuse to break the rules, but unfortunately a lot of reactionary America seems to not only want that, but expect it.

 

[nhbbear]

Personally, I don't think we should bend (and certainly not break) appropriate due process and procedure for _anyone_ regardless of the charge. Doesn't matter if it's a random pot head or a guy that strangles women in their sleep. The integrity of system itself is more important. "But we really want to" isn't an excuse to break the rules, but unfortunately a lot of reactionary America seems to not only want that, but expect it.

Which side are you alleging broke the rules just so I can be clear

 

[Limbo Pete]

Which side are you alleging broke the rules just so I can be clear

I'm really just speaking generally about the state of the DOJ as a whole under this administration

 

[James Bomb]

Thank you for explaining the differences. I honestly didn’t know that. I thought they were the same, just issues by the feds and I thought they were signed by a fed judge. However, They were waiting for him to step onto public ground is my guess why they rode down the elevator with him. He still ran when they attempted to arrest him. As for the judge, she was made aware that the agents were waiting to arrest him and she led him out inside door, which is where the harboring charge comes in because she definitely tried to assist him in escaping arrest.

The point is that "using the wrong door" is probably not going to stand up to the scrutiny necessary for a criminal conviction. The fact that this case was brought in the first place is a bigger legal problem than anything that the judge did herself.

It seems like the left is going to shit kittens every time an illegal is arrested. Personally, I think these tactics should be reserved for more serious criminal offenders here illegally. Not sure why they are picking these particular criminals to arrest. Go after the ones that keep getting arrested and a judge should not interfere with the process. Maybe she doesn’t have to help, but she shouldn’t hinder because she is some social justice crusader with a personal agenda.

I think it's not "shitting kittens" to be concerned about arresting judges in obvious bad faith for doing their judicial duties. Which is basically close to the weird kind of bullshit that sovereign citizens try to pull on cops and judges all the time. This time the sovereign citizens are getting orders from the White House though.

 

[James Bomb]

First - she dint have to assist.

Yep

Second - they had the wrong type of warrant, she kept them from breaking the law.

Hmm, I don't see where that argument is being made. Unless you say the "them" is court personnel, and then yeah, there have been cases where helping ICE can lead to civil rights violations. People need to be careful.

Third - he was on an elevator with ICE. This is all BS.

It's literally in the affidavit that the Justice Dept filed. They already admitted to it.

Fourth - people leave from that door all the time. This is no big deal.

Yes, there is no magic door in the courtroom that leads to a secret exit.

Fifth - ok, people never leave through that door, but it leads to the same hallway.

And it does. That's also going to be easy to prove.

When you keep changing the excuse, you know the defense is shaky

All of these arguments still apply, and it's not the defense that is shaky. You guys are laboring so hard to support another Trump administration wild goose chase. And it shows.

I'm asking this honestly, from a place of non-contempt... what makes you so confident in the legal record of the Trump administration when it comes to actual courtroom proceedings (where the court has to determine real facts and apply the actual law) that would make you give them any benefit of the doubt?

 

[nhbbear]

The point is that "using the wrong door" is probably not going to stand up to the scrutiny necessary for a criminal conviction. The fact that this case was brought in the first place is a bigger legal problem than anything that the judge did herself.

I think it's not "shitting kittens" to be concerned about arresting judges in obvious bad faith for doing their judicial duties. Which is basically close to the weird kind of bullshit that sovereign citizens try to pull on cops and judges all the time. This time the sovereign citizens are getting orders from the White House though.

Maybe they can prove it and maybe they can’t, but we both know that she absolutely took him out the side door to obstruct justice.

And I am not referring to the judge issue with the shitting kittens. I am talking about making every single deported border jumper a new cause. What disturbs me is people here on student visas having their visas revoked because they express first amendment rights. That is so bullshit.

 

[nhbbear]

I'm really just speaking generally about the state of the DOJ as a whole under this administration

Just trying to clarify a bit. Due process has been on hiatus for a few weeks

 

[James Bomb]

Maybe they can prove it and maybe they can’t, but we both know that she absolutely took him out the side door to obstruct justice.

And I am not referring to the judge issue with the shitting kittens. I am talking about making every single deported border jumper a new cause. What disturbs me is people here on student visas having their visas revoked because they express first amendment rights. That is so bullshit.

That's the thing about court proceedings, "we both know" isn't good enough for a conviction, even if I did agree with you. That's one of the major points of due process.

Think about what you're arguing for here... that letting somebody use a different door is a crime.

This is the exact sort of legal uncertainty that gun rights advocates point out all the time... if you put that particular upper on the wrong receiver and you've created yourself a SBR or a readily-convertible "machine gun" without ever having any intent to break the law. This case is even more trivial.