Jones would rather fight 45 yr old fossil Stipe than cement his legacy against Tom

[kdday]

Jones should drop the belt if he has no interest in unifying, his legacy is cemented, he doesn't need the title for his last fight to matter

 

[Marko Polo]

Funny how Stipe is an old man but Jon isn't lol.

Good job on cutting out the second part:
“Then I thought about that flying and never coming down — it’s a decision to give up on yourself,” Jones said. “And something just said just as clear as that other voice, ‘F—k that’ (laughs). Not you, not today, not me.”

Jones is a POS guy lost his fucking family over being a cokehead but you cant take away his accomplishments and 2020 account just tells me you wasnt around when he came up and probably was feeding your coomer brain asian porn in your mothers basement.

Yeah we start watching mma on our Sherdog sign up date. I’ve been watching since before Jon

 

[GreenGorilla]

Yeah we start watching mma on our Sherdog sign up date. I’ve been watching since before Jon

Then you don't know what you are watching, show me another LHW who chainwrestled and got as creative with their takedowns at his age.
Fucking watch the Bonnar fight or the Vera one, Jones has godgiven ability everyone can see that, nobody denies he is a POS and very strategic but this whole Thread is a giant rant about nothing.

Is Aspinall the harder fight, probably, does it mean if Jones doesnt fight Aspinall his Legacy is ruined? Jones main legacy is becoming the youngest Champ in UFC ever fucking up a murderers row in the process. He TKO Rua with his hands his weakest part of his game.

Crazy how people try to deny the abillity of people they dont like, bet you was one of the people saying Islam didnt deserve to fight for the title when everyone who knows anything about combatsports was able to see the guy is levels above competition.

 

[Mike]

That's irrelevant to what I said.

I am okay with Jon wanting to fight Stipe for legacy.

I am not okay with him with him holding the belt hostage to do so.

Why as a Jones fan are you defending this? Even if you want the Stipe fight because you don't want the obvious L Jon would take against Aspinall.

Why do you want Jon to keep the belt that he doesn't need? His legacy is set in stone.

Let the actual top guys in their prime fight each other for the belt and Jones can fight Stipe, Mark Coleman, Dan Severn or even the old man Conor punched in the pub all he likes.
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He can't be having these joke fights while claiming to be the best HW in the world and keeping the actual best guys from fighting for the top prize in the sport.

Not really a Jones fan. Was before the ped stuff. I'm just not mad about this stuff like some people are. It's not new, it's the way it's always been. Maybe I just don't get it when people act shocked like we didn't see things like Brock getting a title shot off one win. Conor getting the lw shot just because. Nick dIaz getting his ww shot because he's a draw. Etc. etc. It's one stupid money fight, and if anyone should get one without people bitching this much it's two divisional goats.

If these guys were 25 it would be different. If Aspinall had already proven himself as some once in a generation talent it would also be different. For me anyway.

 

[Steve Fox]

Goats don’t lose to Reyes.

You can believe in that if you want. I won't enter in discussions of fantasy MMA.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Aspinall barely has a top 5 win. A win over Aspinall means absolutely nothing to Jones legacy. He Destroyed Gane and wants a win over the longest reigning HW champ in UFC history to wrap things up. I'm okay with it.

That longest reigning champ is 42 years old, coming off of brutal KO loss, and hasn’t fought in what will be 2-3 years by the time they fight. It’s an embarrassment.

 

[Dick]

That longest reigning champ is 42 years old, coming off of brutal KO loss, and hasn’t fought in what will be 2-3 years by the time they fight. It’s an embarrassment.

No one cares about Aspinall and his 2 wins, sorry bud. Jones is the GOAT and will do what he wants in his final fight.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

That he already has an impressive legacy. And he shouldn't pause to consider people like you because you just move the goalposts immediately anyway. First he was ducking Frank. Then Gane was going to destroy him. Then he murked Gane like he was a journeyman so it was really Sergei he was ducking. Now Sergei lost to Tom, so I guess we really know he was frightened of Tom all along.

If he did beat Tom, by then some other guy would have an impressive win and you'd just say Jones was ducking him instead. It never ends and it's silly.

Can’t argue that he ducked going to HW until Ngannou left and now is clearly ducking the Interim Champ to fight a geriatric Stipe coming off a KO loss and having not competed in 2-3 years.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

No one cares about Aspinall and his 2 wins, sorry bud. Jones is the GOAT and will do what he wants in his final fight.

Aspinall is the Interim Champ so yea, people care that Jones ducked Ngannou and is now ducking Aspinall.

 

[Mike]

Can’t argue that he ducked going to HW until Ngannou left and now is clearly ducking the Interim Champ to fight a geriatric Stipe coming off a KO loss and having not competed in 2-3 years.

I mean sure you can lmao. To start off with he was a lhw. Nobody ever HAS to move up. And if we were to call every guy that doesn't move up a duck or coward, that would be like 99% of fighters.

As far as the Jon vs Francis fight not happening, they both complained and said they were being lowballed for a fight of that magnitude. Blame the UFC for being so cheap in every situation they can be.

 

[cmw43]

that interum belt is a prop LMFAO as far as I'm consirned Jon Jones is still the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. He got injured right after winning the title and dana only created an interem title dude to desperation, that interem title might as well be a toy belt

Jones won the vacant title against Gane who'd been outgrappled by D1 Ngannou, doesn't feel any more legit than Aspinalls.

Aspinall won against Pav who was ranked #2 on a six fight first round KO streak.

 

[HoelHomero]

The reality is he lost but the judges gifted him the fight. Go back and rewatch it it’s clear as day.

I scored it for Jones. However I scored Jones vs Thiago for Thiago.
But that doesn't change reality. lol
A champ that has been on top for a decade can allow himself a bad day.
A challenger that has had time to study the champ for a decade can't allow himself to go to a close decision and expect to win the title.

 

[Marko Polo]

I scored it for Jones. However I scored Jones vs Thiago for Thiago.
But that doesn't change reality. lol
A champ that has been on top for a decade can allow himself a bad day.
A challenger that has had time to study the champ for a decade can't allow himself to go to a close decision and expect to win the title.

Jon lost the fight vs Reyes. He was out struck in 3 rounds to 2. People say “oh Reyes’s strikes did no damage” show me one gif from that fight, just one, which shows Jon’s success. He did literally nothing and was beat up by the end. Sure he finished stronger, but under the 10 point system a fight is a race and he lost that race.

The last bit is irrelevant.

 

[jsbx45]

It means you guys can’t rationalise what I’m saying. If I was lying then sure I could understand it. I’ve spoke the truth. Exaggerated Stipes age here and there. I think it’s normal to not like a proven drug cheat/ cheat? Maybe it’s you guys who are deranged and you only see the opinions of other deranged sherdoggers. You’re part of the furniture here

Now you are letting John ruin your life and your personal relations with others. You really need to pump the brakes on this crusade TS. Out.

 

[TheBulge]

You actually think Jon Jones, MMA royalty at this point, needs Tom Aspinal to "cement his legacy"?

That's rich. Right before that he needed Pavlovich to do that. Tom's the new flavor of the month untill he proves otherwise and Jones certainly doesn't need him for his legacy.

 

[Billthebutcher]

The only cement jon had was the steroids running thru his veins holding him together.

 

[IvanDrago2.0]

Game will beat Tom and null that conversation

 

[Shaddows]

Tells you everything you need to know. Jon doesn’t have a warriors spirit. He’s happy to feather his nest and lie to his own fans. I mean sure he puts in a lot of time training in the gym which not everyone can do, but as far as his character and how he reacts to struggles inside and outside the cage, he’s not an example to follow. Genuinely don’t know how this guy has any fans. From the first time I heard him speak I knew he was a fake guy, you could hear how contrived his words were. This was when he was in his religious holier than thou phase lol, remember that.

Edit: Some of these replies have been brilliant and eye opening. A lot of these guys would be happy to see a lesser quality of fight as long as there’s less risk of Jon losing. That’s zealot level of fandom.

The hype around Tom V Jon Jones would be incredible, but no, Stipe is a much better more important fight! For errr, his legacy!

oh the haters!!!! Beat Stipe, "He was too old, he run from Tom";
But if Jon selects Tom, "See??? He wants to fight a newbie instead of facing our GOAT Stipe!"