Jon Jones is gonna reality check alot of people who assume Aspinall will be a threat

[Gregoire1]

60/40 Jones.

Im interested to hear why current Asp is better or more proven than pre-Jones Gane or pre-Izzy Costa or pre-Jones Reyes or some other "undefeated" monsters

 

[lsa]

60/40 Jones.

Im interested to hear why current Asp is better or more proven than pre-Jones Gane or pre-Izzy Costa or pre-Jones Reyes or some other "undefeated" monsters

Tom is the interim champ..
The belts need to be unified, its THAT simple.
It did not even have to be Tom, it could be what ever fighter...
But the belt need to be unified, you cant have 2 active champs in a division.

Jons cant right now not call him self the undisputed HW champ.

 

[Dr Brian Pepper]

If jones beats tom then all these nuthuggers will say tom was never good and will point at his lack of wins and then it will be "jones needs to fight francis", its a never ending cycle because people want to see Jones lose

Jones beating Gane was enough to make him the GOAT already, the gane win is legit he was the second best hw at the time and basically threw his fight away against francis

 

[Vehap1]

That all may be true, but rarely do we get a fighter on paper who stands a chance against Jones.

Stipe had like a 20% chance, Gane another 20% at winning, Aspinall at least has a good 45% chance at victory, some would even say it's more a 50/50, or favour Tom heavily, and that's why fans have been clamouring for this fight.

Plus Tom is or was the interim champ, that alone demands a crack at being the rightful champ.

45% is incorrect, he has 62% of winning, check the odds
And those who say the oddsmaker are wrong, well hope you put your money where your mouth is (have fun trying to beat the oddsmakers

 

[GordonMMARamsey]

I love Sherdog. It can never be a competitive fight. It's either Jones kills him, or Tom kills him. But what ever team you're on, the other team doesn't have a chance.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

60/40 Jones.

Im interested to hear why current Asp is better or more proven than pre-Jones Gane or pre-Izzy Costa or pre-Jones Reyes or some other "undefeated" monsters

Pre-Jones Reyes was a joke at the time. No one thought he was a serious contender until after Jones phoned in 3 straight rounds against him. OSP and Volkan were in the bottom half of the top 10 with the Volkan decision being more than questionable, then Dom got a title shot beating MW, 1-4 in his last 5 Weidman. And it's not like an Iaquinta situation where that was a fill-in, they actually booked that fight.

His position before fighting Jones was NOWHERE near Tom today

 

[balkanbomber85]

No, they will immediately claim that Tom, who was 12-3 before that, is a nobody and the win didnt move JBJ a single inch on the GOAT ladder....

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Tom has competed in BJJ and won tournaments.
So I would assume his belts in BJJ is somewhat legit.

I will even go out on a limb and say its probably more legit than Poatans.

But in a mixed martial arts fight with somebody like Jones on top of you, it’s a different ballgame. We’ve seen in Jones career when he gets on top of you. You are in deep shit. Nobody is trying to crush your face with elbows in a BJJ tournament.

 

[MarioLemieux]

He's never going to fight him. All it will prove is he ducked the interim champ.

 

[Tweak896]

Imagine HW Jones oblique kicking Aspinall's injured knee. Would be hilarious how many haters there would be afterwards.

 

[OldBoy91]

Imagine HW Jones oblique kicking Aspinall's injured knee. Would be hilarious how many haters there would be afterwards.

I've seen lot of people say this, but how?

Aspinall injured his right knee. He fights orthodox and his right knee is on his rear leg. There's a reason people use side leg kicks and oblique leg kicks to the front leg.

Jon would have to get really close to Aspinall to even attempt to land an oblique kick to Aspinall's rear leg, and he would have to give Tom a huge advantage in foot position.

So you're telling me Jon will get well into Tom's punching range, with a side on stance to land his oblique or side leg kick, making it really hard to defend punches. Against a guy who is bigger, stronger, much faster than him, and with KO power.

Do Jones fans not know anything about martial arts, or fighting in general? Do they even know what they are watching?

 

[ILove4MinutesHyuna]

Jones got pushed to the limit by that thing

 

[Tweak896]

I've seen lot of people say this, but how?

Aspinall injured his right knee. He fights orthodox and his right knee is on his rear leg. There's a reason people use side leg kicks and oblique leg kicks to the front leg.

Jon would have to get really close to Aspinall to even attempt to land an oblique kick to Aspinall's rear leg, and he would have to give Tom a huge advantage in foot position.

So you're telling me Jon will get well into Tom's punching range, with a side on stance to land his oblique or side leg kick, making it really hard to defend punches. Against a guy who is bigger, stronger, much faster than him, and with KO power.

Do Jones fans not know anything about martial arts, or fighting in general? Do they even know what they are watching?

I thought it was his front leg. That's a good point. But no one's tested that leg since his injury, Jones chin hasn't been tested but a few punches from Stipe. He has a wider variety of strikes. Hell can ruin Aspinall's lead leg and force a stance switch. Or do Aspinall fans think his legs more tested than Jones chin?

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Win or lose people wanna see the belt holder defend. Some fans just take things so personal geeze

 

[188912345]

No, they will immediately claim that Tom, who was 12-3 before that, is a nobody and the win didnt move JBJ a single inch on the GOAT ladder....

No, he's too accomplished and obviously talented for that. That's why it's so ridiculous when people try to justify Jones fighting someone else and pretending Aspinall isn't his toughest fight.

 

[OldBoy91]

I thought it was his front leg. That's a good point. But no one's tested that leg since his injury, Jones chin hasn't been tested but a few punches from Stipe. He has a wider variety of strikes. Hell can ruin Aspinall's lead leg and force a stance switch. Or do Aspinall fans think his legs more tested than Jones chin?

His leg seems to be fine. The first thing he did post injury his headkick Marcin Tybura with it. Landed teep kicks with it in that fight too, and his footwork is better than ever and he is more springy, faster and more explosive than he was before the injury. Watch his fight with Arlovski and compare it to any of his post injury fights. It's night and day. You don't move like Aspinall does on a bum leg, not as a 255 pound man.

Jon has a great chin historically, but it is completely untested at HW. Stipe landed a few arm punches on him that moved at a snail's pace. But Stipe seems to have lost all his athletic ability.

Regardless of how durable Jon is though, trying to land a side leg kick or an oblique kick to Tom's rear leg is just bad fight IQ. And if there's one thing Jon Jones doesn't possess, it's bad fight IQ. He would never attempt that in a fight.

 

[Tweak896]

His leg seems to be fine. The first thing he did post injury his headkick Marcin Tybura with it. Landed teep kicks with it in that fight too, and his footwork is better than ever and he is more springy, faster and more explosive than he was before the injury. Watch his fight with Arlovski and compare it to any of his post injury fights. It's night and day. You don't move like Aspinall does on a bum leg, not as a 255 pound man.

Jon has a great chin historically, but it is completely untested at HW. Stipe landed a few arm punches on him that moved at a snail's pace. But Stipe seems to have lost all his athletic ability.

Regardless of how durable Jon is though, trying to land a side leg kick or an oblique kick to Tom's rear leg is just bad fight IQ. And if there's one thing Jon Jones doesn't possess, it's bad fight IQ. He would never attempt that in a fight.

That's a fairer assessment, but I think it's crazy to say Jones can never find a way to hurt is bad leg. He's a different fighter than Tybura like Aspinall is different than Stipe. Like I said Jones could strategize to take out Aspinall's good leg and could give Aspinall 2 bad legs. Kind of makes me interested in Pereira vs Aspinall because he really could test that factor.

 

[svmr_db]

Imagine HW Jones oblique kicking Aspinall's injured knee. Would be hilarious how many haters there would be afterwards.

"Injured knee" lol, Tom took his rehab, health & nutrition etc to the next level after what happened in the Blaydes fight. At this point his knee is better than ever & is no more of a target than it is for anybody else.

 

[OldBoy91]

That's a fairer assessment, but I think it's crazy to say Jones can never find a way to hurt is bad leg. He's a different fighter than Tybura like Aspinall is different than Stipe. Like I said Jones could strategize to take out Aspinall's good leg and could give Aspinall 2 bad legs. Kind of makes me interested in Pereira vs Aspinall because he really could test that factor.

Definitely more likely that Jon would attack the front leg and try to stay out of punching range.

 

[Tweak896]

"Injured knee" lol, Tom took his rehab, health & nutrition etc to the next level after what happened in the Blaydes fight. At this point his knee is better than ever & is no more of a target than it is for anybody else.

Knees are like backs they never come back the same. Who knows the extent of the real damage, I'm sure Aspinall rather keep that information not public. HW is a hard class for your body, every training camp is going to be rough of them.