Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

[The Merchant]

You do realize that he was already suicidal, yes? What do you think that does to the prior probability in his case? Don't you think it greatly increases the chance that he killed himself?

How do we know he was suicidal? There is conflicting reports Journalists are reporting that he said he was attacked a few weeks back not that he tried to commit suicide.



even the Reuters report is ambigious

"Last month, Epstein was found unconscious on the floor of his jail cell with marks on his neck, and officials were investigating that incident as a possible suicide or assault."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-dies-by-suicide-media-reports-idUSKCN1V00GM

 

[dirtypablo]

6 minutes is more than enough time to kill yourself in a variety of ways

I'm aware. You said - he could easily kill himself in a couple moments. 6 minutes isn't a couple moments.

 

[JonesBones]

I know allot about this psycological effect.

Don't just blame the people who are certain this was a conspiracy.

Equally blame the ones that are certain it isn't.

It is being attacked and called absurd that makes mostly sane people on both sides of the argument to go from "I think this is what happened", to "I know this is what happened".

I know what prison procedure is. This is something I can know.

If I wasn't already hearing that the warden and the top psych person signed off to remove him from suicide watch, I would think it was atleast possible that Epstien had bribed a guard to be able to kill himself.

Whatever went on here, at the very least starts with the Warden and the top psych official.

No you don't, and you don't know what was in his room or anything else. You are pulling shit out of your ass. You anoint yourself an expert on everything.

 

[Limbo Pete]

I'm aware. You said - he could easily kill himself in a couple moments. 6 minutes isn't a couple moments.

Well you can feel free to disagree with me all you want.

 

[VivaRevolution]

And they also die all the time
How are you having such a hard time with this lmao

Your an idiot, or are being intentionally absurd.

I'm familiar enough with your posting to know you aren't this dumb.

 

[calavera2]

He also said that the "grab em by the pussy" tape was doctored

He lies so much there is no way you can take him at his word.

His own wife accused him of rape

The lying might actually be his rational part coming through, I mean who wouldn’t lie their ass off about paying off prostitites or raping your wife etc.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Your an idiot, or are being intentionally absurd.

I'm familiar enough with your posting to know you aren't this dumb.

I'm being perfectly reasonable lol
The dumb thing was claiming it literally impossible for him to have killed himself.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

<Lmaoo>

The great thing about conspiritards is that they know the official narrative is wrong but can never agree on what actually happened. It was Trump. It was Clinton. He ain't even dead. You have as many stories as cultures have gods and they are all wrong.

Well, that is interesting angle. It probably boils down to where your greatest hate lies.

If you hate Jews, go with the Mossad/Jewish conspiracy angles. If you hate Conservatives/RINOs, go with Trump ordering a hit. If you hate liberals go with the HIllary Clinton death squad. If your main target is the global elite group, go with Soros or the more vague "elite cabal."

I think the only rational stance right now which is "he may have committed suicide, but there's a chance, given the amount of people with resources and means who want the guy dead, that there was some foul play. Who is behind it we don't know."

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I don't trust the idea that he was suicidal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is it that hard to believe?

He lived the last 40 years among the Super rich. He had one of the most expensive houses in Manhattan, mansions in Florida and New Mexico to go with a private island in the Caribbean. He ate at the best restaurants in the world while drinking expensive scotch and fuxking teenagers.

He was about to spend the rest of his life in jail either in solitary confinement or under the threat of being beat up and raped.

That drastic of a life change can definitely make one suicidal

 

[HereticBD]

Post a conspiracy theory.

Seriously, should I buy into this, or what?

 

[dirtypablo]

Well you can feel free to disagree with me all you want.

On the definition of a moment? Yes I do. You could admit that it was a stupid thing to say, and correct yourself by saying he could kill himself in a few minutes.

 

[VivaRevolution]

No you don't, and you don't know what was in his room or anything else. You are pulling shit out of your ass. You anoint yourself an expert on everything.

My step father has been a prison guard for 20 years, and regularly works where they give meds, and every couple of days has to storm into a cell, and shove meds down people's throat. My brother is also a prison guard at the same prison.

I literally hear about prison procedure from a subject matter expert at every family dinner or event for the last 20 years. I have a clue what I am talking about.

 

[HereticBD]

6 minutes is more than enough time to kill yourself in a variety of ways

Yeah, if nobody is watching you...

 

[Fawlty]

I don't trust the idea that he was suicidal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Odd. He was placed on suicide watch (to the best of my knowledge) for a couple weeks after harming himself last month. I think the chances that this actually happened are a lot higher than the chances that some nameless entity fabricated it. But even if the truth is something different, suicide is still more likely than a complex murder plot involving powerful, high profile people who wanted him dead.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

The lying might actually be his rational part coming through, I mean who wouldn’t lie their ass off about paying off prostitites or raping your wife etc.

But originally he said it was locker room talk.

So he went from admitting it happened and it was just banter between friends to it was doctored footage

 

[VivaRevolution]

I'm being perfectly reasonable lol
The dumb thing was claiming it literally impossible for him to have killed himself.

Show me an example of a inmate killing himself by running his head into a wall.

You actually typed those words, and have the balls to pretend your being reasonable?

 

[Limbo Pete]

On the definition of a moment? Yes I do. You could admit that it was a stupid thing to say, and correct yourself by saying he could kill himself in a few minutes.

I'm entirely comfortable using the word "moments", as that is all it takes to kill yourself. You can define that however you want, and disagree.

 

[JonesBones]

My step father has been a prison guard for 20 years, and regularly works where they give meds, and every couple of days has to storm into a cell, and shove meds down people's throat. My brother is also a prison guard at the same prison.

I literally hear about prison procedure from a subject matter expert at every family dinner or event for the last 20 years. I have a clue what I am talking about.

I don't care, you don't know a damn thing about NY law or what happens in different types of facilities. Or any specifics about this case. Your daddy isn't involved in this kind of decision making.

 

[Lubaolong]

Girls as young as 13.

And if it was legal why was he in jail? Why did he already do a light sentence?

It's all covered in these threads

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...rked-to-cut-him-a-break-jeff-epstein.3871597/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...osta-has-resigned-as-labor-secretary.3985955/

13 is quite young but was legal not too awfully long ago

There are tons of 16-17 year old prostitutes. I don't feel too much outrage about this, as long they aren't being forced into it.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I don't care, you don't know a damn thing about NY law or what happens in different types of facilities. Or any specifics about this case. Your daddy isn't involved in this kind of decision making.

Ha, like telling a cop in LA he doesn't know anything about putting handcuffs on a suspect, because you are in NY.