It was Khamzat's fault the fight was boring, and that's OK if he only cares about winning

[Mind Mine]

Alpha


Although i agree on your points about you can win and be effective but also be boring in the process...

This concept isn't mutually exclusive to MMA...and it doesn't need to change...nor do the rules...when tiger woods was dominating Golf
...nobody said hey we gotta change the rules dudes too good...or when a superbowl team wins the game by a big spread early...nobody says ah that game was boring ...they should change the rules so the other team can always be close to winning too ..



Same applies here...this is sports, sometimes it just isnt the most exciting of games but its still a valid contest and win ... Khamzat will pay for his choices by losing some crowd support and probably adding more pressure on himself for his next fight as UFC staff and fans will only expect more out of him moving forward...

It was on Dricus to improve the position...Khamzat already got to one of the most dominant positions in the sport, he would actually need to take a step back positionally in order to change positions...so Dricus being stuck there so long was on him...his coach said "they didnt train the crucifix" ...like what?? This isnt a new position ... simply put Dricus wasn't prepared... Khamzat was

The sport was neither designed for what he is doing and has been heavily frowned on by organizations fans and fighters. He is popular and brings his own fanbase so the UFC allows it. I have seen Jailton Almeida stood up for THE SAME THING

 

[Alpha_T83]

Nope, the blame is 50/50. You’re right about Khamzat, but DDP was playing very defensive. Once you lose the first 3 rounds, you know you need a finish. A defensive approach can’t possibly benefit you at that point. If a guy remains defensive in later rounds, and refuses to take chances because he doesn’t want to get finished, he is also responsible for the fight being boring.

If that's the bargain we have to strike, that the blame is 50/50 for DDP putting on an embarrassing show of takedown defense, combined with Khamzat playing it safe, then I can accept that.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

The sport was neither designed for what he is doing and has been heavily frowned on by organizations fans and fighters. He is popular and brings his own fanbase so the UFC allows it. I have seen Jailton Almeida stood up for THE SAME THING

The crucifix position has been around for decades... Khamzat was working just not hard/smart enough to get the finish

Its definitely part of the sport and can be used freely from anyone lol Big country Nelson pretty much won the entire TUF season because of that position.


Dricus wasnt prepared and made no adjustments during a 25 minute fight...till the 5th round where he had great success and almost tapped Khamzat..

Please show me where jailton was stood up for the exact same thing...cuz i can almost guarantee he wasnt doing the same thing when it happened...

 

[Humongo]

If I fight a 5yo retard and I hold him on the ground, you wouldn't say it's on the retard to make the fight interesting.
This is exactly the same: Khamzat's ground game is so superior to DDP's that it's on him to finish the fight. He's technically allowed to win on points by holding DDP and doing the minimum so the ref doesn't stand them up, but he's a pussy for doing so.

 

[Mind Mine]

The crucifix position has been around for decades... Khamzat was working just not hard/smart enough to get the finish

Its definitely part of the sport and can be used freely from anyone lol Big country Nelson pretty much won the entire TUF season because of that position.


Dricus wasnt prepared and made no adjustments during a 25 minute fight...till the 5th round where he had great success and almost tapped Khamzat..

Please show me where jailton was stood up for the exact same thing...cuz i can almost guarantee he wasnt doing the same thing when it happened...

Regardless the position he was stood up for weak ground and pound while maintaining position. What you people defending that don’t understand is all it takes is a single card of every fighter pulling that crap and the business will immediately go belly up. Are you honestly insinuating that some fighters pulling this crap should be allowed to? Are you insinuating all fighters should be allowed to? I wont even insult you as to what kind of person I believe would enjoy a card of all weak gnp with control from superior wrestlers. I can tell you the majority of the fanbase doesn’t want to see it and that’s including hardcore fans

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Regardless the position he was stood up for weak ground and pound while maintaining position. What you people defending that don’t understand is all it takes is a single card of every fighter pulling that crap and the business will immediately go belly up. Are you honestly insinuating that some fighters pulling this crap should be allowed to? Are you insinuating all fighters should be allowed to? I wont even insult you as to what kind of person I believe would enjoy a card of all weak gnp with control from superior wrestlers. I can tell you the majority of the fanbase doesn’t want to see it and that’s including hardcore fans

Brother .


There is a very small amount of fighters who can do what he does lol..

And like all things in fighting there is always an answer...if your breathing , and conscious theres a way out ...if you want to take a risk or know how...

That's the game of fighting... Risk management...


Ur acting like there's nothing that can be done and every fight will be this way lmfao ...r u new to the sport or something?

If everyone could do it ...they would...

People try and fail all the time..

Dricus could of done what he did in round 5 in round 3 and the fight would of been different
..he chose not too ... and he couldn't stop the takedown at the beginning of each round... Thats the story of the fight ..

 

[burningspear]

He even said he opened up in the 5th and lost position, so yes he played it safe.

 

[humdizzle]

its a combination of things imo

DDP's fault for not learning how to grapple well

The UFCs fault for giving champs a huge pay raise over non champs. You would make more money being a hated/boring champ and collecting ppv points, than being a popular #2-5 ranked fighter, and its not even close. The only person a champ is fighting for is himself, his family, and his team.

 

[Mind Mine]

Brother .


There is a very small amount of fighters who can do what he does lol..

And like all things in fighting there is always an answer...if your breathing , and conscious theres a way out ...if you want to take a risk or know how...

That's the game of fighting... Risk management...


Ur acting like there's nothing that can be done and every fight will be this way lmfao ...r u new to the sport or something?

If everyone could do it ...they would...

People try and fail all the time..

Dricus could of done what he did in round 5 in round 3 and the fight would of been different
..he chose not too ... and he couldn't stop the takedown at the beginning of each round... Thats the story of the fight ..

I don’t give a damn about Driscus or his Meniscus. Do you understand the basic truth that in a single night if every fighter did that it would likely cripple tlsales? Or is that something that alludes you? Do you understand historically fighters have been stood up and or this heavily frowned on throughout the history of this sport? Is this also alluding you? You have literally ignored word for word of what I have addressed to you. Do you understand wrestling has never had a strong viewership following or is that also something way over your head? You act as if these facts are just things I made up. It’s obtuse

 

[burningspear]

 

[Paolo Delutis]

I don’t give a damn about Driscus or his Meniscus. Do you understand the basic truth that in a single night if every fighter did that it would likely cripple tlsales? Or is that something that alludes you? Do you understand historically fighters have been stood up and or this heavily frowned on throughout the history of this sport? Is this also alluding you? You have literally ignored word for word of what I have addressed to you. Do you understand wrestling has never had a strong viewership following or is that also something way over your head? You act as if these facts are just things I made up. It’s obtuse

Lmfao

What?

Grappling started the whole UFC brother and MMA blow up... Gracie Jiu-jitsu...

Grappling has always been apart and loved in MMA.

Do you realise...that there will never be a card ever ..that every fighter does what Khamzat did because there arent that many khamzats out there and i bet you if Khamzat fought Dricus again he couldn't even redo what he did that night..

Thats how this sport works.. you obviously havent been watching very long..

Been frowned apon? Lol did your forget GSP.. Matt hughes...Mark Coleman, randy Couture, daniel Cormier... Khabib...islam...

These are all wrestling forward fighters who have at some point or another won fights to much fanfare by utterly controlling and dominating their opponents without getting the finish...
.

Perhap your the obtuse fan...who doesnt know what sport they're actually watching...

 

[Mind Mine]

Lmfao

What?

Grappling started the whole UFC brother and MMA blow up... Gracie Jiu-jitsu...

Grappling has always been apart and loved in MMA.

Do you realise...that there will never be a card ever ..that every fighter does what Khamzat did because there arent that many khamzats out there and i bet you if Khamzat fought Dricus again he couldn't even redo what he did that night..

Thats how this sport works.. you obviously havent been watching very long..

Be frowned apon? Lol did your forget GSP.. Matt hughes...Mark Coleman, randy Couture, daniel Cormier... Khabib...islam...

These are all wrestling forward fighters who have at some point or another won fights to much fanfare but utterly controlling and dominating their opponents without getting the finish...
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Perhap your the obtuse fan...who doesnt know what sport there actually watching...

Little boy you obviously watch one man hold another in position on the ground with weak ground and pound and find it great. I don’t give a damn how long you have been watching and I make zero character attack on you because you like that weak assed shit. Since you opened the door little boy goy watch some gay porn while you’re at it. Since you find interest in one man being held in position for 25 minutes and it titilates you go get you some gay porn

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Little boy you obviously watch one man hold another in position on the ground with weak ground and pound and find it great. I don’t give a damn how long you have been watching and I make zero character attack on you because you like that weak assed shit. Since you opened the door little boy goy watch some gay porn while you’re at it. Since you find interest in one man being held in position for 25 minutes and it titilates you go get you some gay porn

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Go fuck yourself... Grappling is part of MMA...there are exciting grapplers and there are less exciting grapplers...the same can be said for striker..


Bye bitch

 

[-Sideways-]

It wasn't boring though. What we saw was a fantastic display of grappling and control against a game champion.

 

[richardjohnson]

If I fight a 5yo retard and I hold him on the ground, you wouldn't say it's on the retard to make the fight interesting.
This is exactly the same: Khamzat's ground game is so superior to DDP's that it's on him to finish the fight. He's technically allowed to win on points by holding DDP and doing the minimum so the ref doesn't stand them up, but he's a pussy for doing so.

Are you the five year old retard in this scenario? Comparing a world champion fighter to a disabled child is pretty fucking dumb.

 

[Mind Mine]

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What a sandy Vagina you turned out to be hahaha

Go fuck yourself... Grappling is part of MMA...there are exciting grapplers and there are less exciting grapplers...the same can be said for striker..


Bye bitch

I could see you with a cheap ass six pack of Natty Ice screaming at the TV in delight as Khamzat ran the fucking clock out holding DDP down and wrestling for 5 fucking rounds. Tell the truth

 

[Humongo]

Are you the five year old retard in this scenario? Comparing a world champion fighter to a disabled child is pretty fucking dumb.

No, I think maybe the retard is you, since you apparently can't read

 

[richardjohnson]

No, I think maybe the retard is you, since you apparently can't read

No sir I think you would qualify as retarded after seeing the dumbass comparison you made. Yeah DDP is a child with a disability, real smart there guy.

 

[CoconutHead]

If you are SOOOOO dominant, and a superior fighter, you MUST do damage.

Nobody pays to see Khamzat's blanket impression. That fight was pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. There is no champion atm.



I say this as a fan of Khamzat. He's generally a very exciting fighter.... Buy for a prizefight THAT was dogshit.

Thank you. Especially coming from Mr "I smesh! I keel everyone!"