It means nothing if JJ or Stipe win

The only logical conclusion is that win or lose Jon Jones is doing a hella lot coke later that night and he mayyyy slap a bitch
 
The fight is overripe. If Jones wanted to prove he was still relevant he should have chosen someone in the competitive pool and not a retired legend.

It's okay, they both deserve a payday after what they've given to the sport.
 
I think Jones would have won no matter what age they fought. Jones has never been really beaten, for a reason. He is the most talented, and yes, one of the most troubled fighters ever. I think this fight does mean a lot to Jones, and at this point of his career, his undefeated record is important to him. VERY FEW fighters finish a career without losing, only the best of the best. I definitely think this fight is important to Jones. Miocic on the other hand, can't lose. If he loses the fight, he still collects a HUGE payday, and he lost to maybe the greatest ever. No shame there. If he wins, again a big payday, AND the UFC championship belt! P.S. I know Jones has a L on his record, but few knowledgeable MMA fans consider that L a real lose.
 
It's just a legacy fight, everyone knows Stipe is old and was already out the door before the prospect of a Jones fight came to him.

and Jones has been incredibly inactive for the last five years and is also approaching the end of his career.

The only thing left for Jones is legacy fights, he looked like a bum in the Gane fight compared to how he looked 10 years ago when he was actually the greatest.

He was going through the trenches in his last few LHW fights, barring the gustafsson rematch in 2018 and the 2017 failed drug test with the DC fight, he's looked so off going all the way back to when he struggled to decision OSP, who fought terribly in 2016. Then failed a drug test.. when he was already coming back from another failed drug test in 2015.

2015 was the last year when Jones was a god. 2015 Jones would have made the Jones that fought Gane his bitch, even with a weight disadvantage.

Juiced up Jones was the greatest and he's mostly struggled to get decision wins ever since 2015.
 
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RedDevilFan said:
If a HW fighter beat Gane it would be considered a top HW win let alone subbing Gane in less than 2 minutes, 4 seconds in the first. Gane is ranked 3 behind Jones and Aspinall only and would be considered a top division win any way you beat him. Gane beat Spivac in 2 rounds and Spivac could not out grapple Gane or get him to the ground. Gane put a beating on Spivac.

Gane is an elite HW with submission wins and a serviceable ground game as we saw in the Ngannou fight. Aspinall does not have a better win on his resume, so if Aspinall beat Gane, it would be his best win on his resume, any way he did it.
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What is Gane best win ….snore fest against Volkov ? A lot of his wins haven’t aged well
 
It means a good way to say his goodbyes, fighting another great former champion in a main PPV bout in a huge arena in MSG.

Which is what Jones, Stipe and the UFC are talking about for months but somehow people in here refuse to understand that.

Go figure...

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r-harper-1 said:
What is Gane best win ….snore fest against Volkov ? A lot of his wins haven’t aged well
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The HW division is shithole, so I do not know what you expect. Isn't Aspinalls best win Volkov. Volkov is on a four fight win streak and just beat Sergei Pavlovich so that aged better than Aspinalls win against Sergei. Gane beat Spivac who just beat Tybura in the first by grappling and submission. Something Spivac could not do to Gane so that Spivac win aged pretty well. They seem to have aged pretty well.


Yes, Ganes best win is probably Volkov who is a dangerous fighter with good kickboxing and very good grappling. That grappling I think Gane was aware of and that snorefest win is something Pav could not do.
 
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FrankDux said:
If JJ beats Stipe, it's because Stipe is/was washed.

If Stipe beats JJ, it's because JJ is/was washed.

Am I doing it right my fellow sherbros? Is this the logic?
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You also have to argue that Maldonado and Tim Johnson are good opponents for Fedor while Stipe means nothing for Jones.
 
FrankDux said:
If JJ beats Stipe, it's because Stipe is/was washed.

If Stipe beats JJ, it's because JJ is/was washed.

Am I doing it right my fellow sherbros? Is this the logic?
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Nope completely off.

Jon vs Stipe is a very interesting fight. Stipe is certainly older and has been out of action for 3+ years but so had Jon before the Gane fight.

The only issue is having the UFC HW title on the line. Jon is no more a legitimate title holder then Aspinall, in fact he is much less legitimate as a UFC HW champion. Jon has 1 win at HW in his entire career. In fact he has 1 fight at HW. Francis beat Gane and left with the belt. Jon being plunked into a "Vacant Title Fight" is silly. Especially against Gane who was never a champion. It would have made more sense to do Stipe vs Jon for Jon's first UFC fight and made it for the vacant title. At least Stipe was the last champion.

Jon holding the HW title and fighting someone Not the Interim Champion makes his title a joke. The fight is interesting and Stipe is not a pushover. The fact Jon will not Unify against Aspinall and neither will Stipe is the problem. They should not have made an Interim title that didn't include Stipe. The shouldn't have made a Vacant title fight for Jon that didn't include Stipe. They shouldn't be letting Jon run the show the way they do either.

Jon vs Stipe should be for the Legacy Belt unless the winner is Contractually obligated to unify. By that I mean 100% of all money earned for Jon vs Stipe by either fighter should be forfeited if they don't unify. 90% should be held until they fight Aspinall.
 
The only way that isn't the case is if the fight lasts for multiple rounds and they both actually look amazing. Which I think has like a 1% chance of being the case.
 
If Faber beat Cruz today at 145, would it matter for either?
A division where one hasn't been relevant for years, and one has no legacy at all.
 
RedDevilFan said:
The HW division is shithole, so I do not know what you expect. Isn't Aspinalls best win Volkov. Volkov is on a four fight win streak and just beat Sergei Pavlovich so that aged better than Aspinalls win against Sergei. Gane beat Spivac who just beat Tybura in the first by grappling and submission. Something Spivac could not do to Gane so that Spivac win aged pretty well. They seem to have aged pretty well.


Yes, Ganes best win is probably Volkov who is a dangerous fighter with good kickboxing and very good grappling. That grappling I think Gane was aware of and that snorefest win is something Pav could not do.
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Pav has always been kind of overrated. He was never THAT good. He got tooled early in his UFC career by Ecoreem who Blaydes and Big Frank brutally finished just before that. Yeah the Blaydes win was solid and his best win but he won that more cause Blaydes fought stupidly, not so much cause he had the better skill set. If the Ecoreem fight was anything to go by, if Blaydes got a TD the fight woulda probably been over.
 
If Stipe wins is he higher than Jones on the all time list?
 
Stipe only won the belt because werdum rushed into his overhand. JDS had him hobbled with leg kicks and JDS was shot/ past his prime anyways. What does that say about stipe? Reem is his only impressive win. Not fat DC at heavyweight. Struve murked him for christs sake.

As for Jones, he pokes everyone's eyes out and towers over his opponents. He is also a steroid cheat.

Both were never that good is what I'm saying.
 
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