International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

Choose the following that best describes your position

  • I do not support Israel attacking Iran

    Votes: 223 61.6%

  • I support Israel attacking Iran, but do not support America becoming directly involved.

    Votes: 93 25.7%

  • I’m for America directly involving itself in the conflict.

    Votes: 46 12.7%
  • Total voters
    362
  • Poll closed .
kflo said:
Can you acknowledge that most secular Jews are also “zionists”?
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There are a lot of people in here who hate Zionists but won't take a Zionist's definition of the word. They expand and tweak Zionism until it's no longer racist to hate them.
 
kflo said:
Lol. This came up because @Rob Battisti equated Zionist Jews with fundamentalist religious zealots.
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For one, I am not @Rob Battisti if you can believe that.

Two, it's useless to make such distiction. If you want a religious ethnostate you're fundamentally at the same table as fundamentalists. You may no believe in what they do, but I don't care, it's not important, you're still responsible for a religious ethnostate.
Tons of secular people in Saudi Arabia too love how the state is set up. Do we like the Saud dynasty because of that? Actually don't answer.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
Mah boy Norman Finkelstein has mentioned many times that he thinks that what Israel may need is a decisive military defeat to shape it back to decency, similar to Nazi Germany transforming into the highly moral Germany of today.

I don't think Iran is doing this now but it's definitely putting up a much bigger fight than what the Arab states have ever done.
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Definitely, reality seems to be hitting home a little bit.

Israel absolutely needs reining in a little bit. Quite significantly, actually.
 
My theory - Trump knows that he needs to cement banking allies after office. Those banking allies have made it clear what his position needs to be.

In my mind the central banks are the center of gravity for all geo political actions. And you-know-who have central roles in those banks.
 
Hog-train said:
Trump wants to axe Tulsi Gabbard for telling the truth about nukes in Iran.

Trump Contemplating Axing Tulsi Gabbard's Office, Saying She 'Doesn't Add Anything' to His Admin: Report "
https://www.latintimes.com/trump-co...ying-she-doesnt-add-anything-his-admin-585231
[Trump] doesn't like it when people are off message," a senior official said
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Tulsi should resign, call Trump out, and when this ultimately blows up in Trumps face and he loses half of his base, use that as leverage for running in the next election.
 
Stoic1 said:
My theory - Trump knows that he needs to cement banking allies after office. Those banking allies have made it clear what his position needs to be.

In my mind the central banks are the center of gravity for all geo political actions. And you-know-who have central roles in those banks.
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Pretty cool antisemitic conspiracy you've cooked up.
 
El Panteron said:
For one, I am not @Rob Battisti if you can believe that.

Two, it's useless to make such distiction. If you want a religious ethnostate you're fundamentally at the same table as fundamentalists. You may no believe in what they do, but I don't care, it's not important, you're still responsible for a religious ethnostate.
Tons of secular people in Saudi Arabia too love how the state is set up. Do we like the Saud dynasty because of that? Actually don't answer.
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Israel has almost 2m muslims. You are free to practice any religion in Israel. You get equal rights as citizens. It is the complete opposite of the meaning of fundamentalist fanatics. Israeli law is not based on Judaism.

Israel has some fundamentalist, ultra Orthodox Jews (they are a minority). If you want to lump them in with other fundamentalist religious groups fine. But suggesting Zionism is religious fundamentalism is absurd.

I never suggested you were rob. But this is the discussion you jumped into.
 
kflo said:
Israel has almost 2m muslims. You are free to practice any religion in Israel. You get equal rights as citizens. It is the complete opposite of the meaning of fundamentalist fanatics. Israeli law is not based on Judaism.

Israel has some fundamentalist, ultra Orthodox Jews (they are a minority). If you want to lump them in with other fundamentalist religious groups fine. But suggesting Zionism is religious fundamentalism is absurd.

I never suggested you were rob. But this is the discussion you jumped into.
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Brother there is apartheid in Israel.
 
El Panteron said:
Brother there is apartheid in Israel.
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seems like you’ll try to shift the conversation in any direction to avoid acknowledging Zionism is nothing like fundamentalist religious groups.

Muslim citizens of Israel have the same legal rights as Jewish citizens. And again, the laws are secular.

This isn’t hard.
 
Stoic1 said:
My theory - Trump knows that he needs to cement banking allies after office. Those banking allies have made it clear what his position needs to be.

In my mind the central banks are the center of gravity for all geo political actions. And you-know-who have central roles in those banks.
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Go on. You must have a reason for thinking central banks are the centre for global geo politics so write it all out! If you write a little sherdog novel I won’t “TLDR” I’ll read it.

I mean there are obvious reasons, central banks are the rivers through which money flows and they hate dams, so to speak, but I want to hear your full explanation…
 
Cherry Brigand said:
Who was hiding in and what was under those 'hospitals' in Gaza?
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"Trust me bro" as Israel gets caught throwing a duffel bag full of rusty guns behind medical equipment and gets caught on live fucking tv. LOL!

I guess Hamas had 36 Command Centers under all of those hospitals, and 200 Command Centers under the schools they destroyed. In fact, The whole entire Gaza region is one single Hamas Command Center, so it's all fair game, right?

I'm sure you are fine with an Iranian missile causing damage to this Israeli hospital because it's target, the IDF's C41 Directorate Military Facility was right by it, right?

Are you going to condemn Israel for putting Military Infrastructure in densely populated metropolitan areas?
 
kflo said:
seems like you’ll try to shift the conversation in any direction to avoid acknowledging Zionism is nothing like fundamentalist religious groups.

Muslim citizens of Israel have the same legal rights as Jewish citizens. And again, the laws are secular.

This isn’t hard.
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Except the ones imprisoned in gaza.

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