International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[kflo]

They've been 6 months from a nuclear bomb for 20+ years now

Lol at people thinking they know what's going on in Iran's nuclear program

We literally know they had 60% enriched uranium over a month ago.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I don’t think Zionist means what you think it means….

Oh, I do.

 

[kflo]

Oh, I do.

Clearly you don’t if you used it the way you did.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

The fact that you have to question if its real, is gold.

That is all apart of Trump’s 5 and even 6-D chess. That a meme like that could be mistaken as real. Keeps the fog of war ever dense, and our enemies on their tippy toes.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Clearly you don’t if you used it the way you did.

Anyone who feels they have a religious right to a region which supersedes anyone’s else’s rights, which includes displacement of other peoples, is a special kind of stupid.

That is Zionism.

 

[ShadowRun]

Anyone who feels they have a religious right to a region which supersedes anyone’s else’s rights, which includes displacement of other peoples, is a special kind of stupid.

That is Zionism.

I believe it predates Israel which is ironic

 

[kflo]

Anyone who feels they have a religious right to a region which supersedes anyone’s else’s rights, which includes displacement of other peoples, is a special kind of stupid.

That is Zionism.

Zionism is believing in Israel’s right to exist. End stop. Most secular Jews are still zionists. And many non Jews are still zionists.

So no, you proved you don’t understand the word.

 

[aerius]

We literally know they had 60% enriched uranium over a month ago.

 

[kflo]

It’s clear you don’t.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Zionism is believing in Israel’s right to exist. End stop. Most secular Jews are still zionists. And many non Jews are still zionists.

So no, you proved you don’t understand the word.

Sure sure.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Zionism is believing in Israel’s right to exist. End stop. Most secular Jews are still zionists. And many non Jews are still zionists.

So no, you proved you don’t understand the word.

Except that’s not what it is. If it was, we wouldn’t have issues in the west bank and in Palestine.

If a Jewish state was not centered around religious sites and was in the middle of Africa then it wouldn’t be religiously based.

 

[Cole train]

So what's the latest on this and where is a good place to read updates?

Simply news wise, this thread is alright ( fairly balanced here with pro israel/iran people)

Combatfootage on reddit for footage of strikes and whatever is going on

 

[kflo]

Except that’s not what it is. If it was, we wouldn’t have issues in the west bank and in Palestine.

If a Jewish state was not centered around religious sites and was in the middle of Africa then it wouldn’t be religiously based.

The fact that Israel is where it is doesn’t mean that Zionism today means anything other than Israel has a right to exist. And that’s what Zionism is about.

Jews have historical ties to the area and that was a motivation for establishing Israel there. But don’t dismiss the fact that most secular Jews are also zionists. And it has nothing to do with fundamentalist religion to them.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

It’s 2003 all over again. And the great part about being my age is that I get to watch all the conservatives in here, who support invading Iran, (fortunately it actually isn’t that many) claim that they were against the war “the whole time” 15 years from now, as they vote for another Republican war monger who they will claim is anti-war.

I’m in my forties, so I’ve been around a while. And I can tell you two things that have remained absolutely true my entire life:
1. The economy is always better under Democrats. It isn’t even debatable. All metrics by which the economy has been measured for over a century show this.

2. Republicans nearly always drag the US into war.

“But, but, but trans people!”

Yeah, keep letting what 0.1% of the population does with their own bodies stop you from voting for a candidate that would materially improve your life, and your family’s life.

Fucking retards.

And I don’t even like the Democrats. They’re shit too. But they’re way less shitty than the Republicans.

 

[Rob Battisti]

The fact that Israel is where it is doesn’t mean that Zionism today means anything other than Israel has a right to exist. And that’s what Zionism is about.

Jews have historical ties to the area and that was a motivation for establishing Israel there. But don’t dismiss the fact that most secular Jews are also zionists. And it has nothing to do with fundamentalist religion to them.

This is one of the most hilarious takes I’ve seen in some time.

 

[MrShady]

Agreed, I am by no means an Iran supporter, but that doesn't mean I have to approve of bombing the shit out of them.

Literally what kflo 's argument was when I expressed my disapproval of US intervention.

It's so played out and childish it makes you wonder if they're that stupid or getting paid to be intentionally reductive.

 

[Rational Poster]

Anyone who feels they have a religious right to a region which supersedes anyone’s else’s rights, which includes displacement of other peoples, is a special kind of stupid.

That is Zionism.

Man this post is woke as hell

 

[kflo]

This is one of the most hilarious takes I’ve seen in some time.

It’s factual.

 

[kflo]

Literally what kflo 's argument was when I expressed my disapproval of US intervention.

It's so played out and childish it makes you wonder if they're that stupid or getting paid to be intentionally reductive.

I suggested you are cool with Iran having nuclear arms after you came at me.

 

[El Panteron]

Zionism is believing in Israel’s right to exist. End stop. Most secular Jews are still zionists. And many non Jews are still zionists.

So no, you proved you don’t understand the word.

I don't know if you're being dense on purpose and shitting on the discussion or no, I'll be open minded.

- Israel's "right to exist" (we'll get to that in a minute) is not the only factor in what is seen as Zionism. It's the fact it has to exist as a religious ethnostate. Obviously lefties have a problem with that part more than its existence.
- The notion that a state has a "right" to exist is complete bullshit: nations don't exist in reality, it's a piece of land someone took with weapons, do you think Italy had a "right" to exist? People took arms and went to shoot other people (or better, we got the French to do it, but not important right now) and now it exists, that's literally all there is to it. All this talk of values and rules is pure fiction.

Israel exists now and there's almost 10 million folks in there so no, I wouldn't think it's right to go and deport them all away, but it doesn't exist because it had a "right" to exist, it does because they could occupy the land with little resistence, and in the post-holocaust landscape there were many people who wanted to go and start a new nation.

Let's not confuse the propaganda babble nations do with reality.