International Israel attacks Qatar

That guy is a goof but Hamas leadership is in fact based in Doha last I checked. They used to be based in Damascus before the Syrian Civil War after which they moved to Doha. Not that it justifies Israel's strikes to be clear.

One has to admire the selfless dedication of the Hamas leadership in Doha, who are willing to endure the same hardships as their people in Gaza. :rolleyes:

 
It’s clear that Israel isn’t going to make a deal with Hamas and Hamas isn’t going to make a deal with Israel. So the region should just come together and destroy Hamas. It’s the quickest way forward.

Hamas doesn’t deserve a spot at the negotiating table to begin with.
Funny enough that's what Israel said when they used to back Hamas. Unfortunately, the devil you know is too often better than a vacuum or who comes next in conflicts like this.
 
He's on that list for sure were you expecting me to argue ?. Bet whoever you get given an option to vote for in the next one likely will be too
No idea, just checking where you're coming from. I'm not American so won't be lucky enough to make that choice.
The notion that Israel can physically defeat Hamas''terrorists' by killing them all is ridiculous though, when has that ever worked? You can't explode ideas. They're currently creating a generatiion of radicals across the the Middle East and turning most citizens of the Western World against them at the same time. This will all come back to them with interest eventually.
 
Same thing I said to another poster

War is war but I strongly would advise against it. Israel isn't America and will fucking kill you and not give 2 shits about hearts and minds or international law.

For some strange reason a lot of folks don't seem to understand that things have changed and Israel isn't playing games with terrorists any more. The world would make a lot more sense to you guys if this fact could sink in. Also we are going to have their back no matter what because they have Intel on the world's elite due to them all being corrupt sex fiends.

Only terrorists are Israelis, and as you stated Laws don't matter, its the wild west times, just kill whoever you want, lets see your view once Israelis and crew start getting dropped all around the world.
 
Funny enough that's what Israel said when they used to back Hamas. Unfortunately, the devil you know is too often better than a vacuum or who comes next in conflicts like this.
you think the pals will go for a worse terrorist org to lead them next?
 
One has to admire the selfless dedication of the Hamas leadership in Doha, who are willing to endure the same hardships as their people in Gaza. :rolleyes:

Its the entire reason these types of groups thrive on conflict. They get money from all over and leave the peeps poor. There can't be peace or the money stops imo.
 
Only terrorists are Israelis, and as you stated Laws don't matter, its the wild west times, just kill whoever you want, lets see your view once Israelis and crew start getting dropped all around the world.


They Won't. Radical Muslims are ambush predators that will get the odd few but ultimately will get a much heavier repayment as has been shown many times
 
Sure.. the region can agree to that.. not Israel attacking Hamas in other sovereign countries' territories without permission.. that seems like the opposite of a way forward
Well what are they going to do about it? They can retaliate or they can stop legitimizing Hamas and stop allowing them to walk freely in their countries.

Obviously it’s not good for diplomacy, but the old way wasn’t working either. Perhaps some drastic actions like these are a necessary evil to solve this properly.
 
No idea, just checking where you're coming from. I'm not American so won't be lucky enough to make that choice.
The notion that Israel can physically defeat Hamas''terrorists' by killing them all is ridiculous though, when has that ever worked? You can't explode ideas. They're currently creating a generatiion of radicals across the the Middle East and turning most citizens of the Western World against them at the same time. This will all come back to them with interest eventually.


Who told you this hippie bullshit? You most certainly can defeat fanatics you just have to fight wars in the total style and not confuse the words surrender and ceasefire . Where the nazis and imperial Japanese at ? They got their asses beat til the didn't wanna fight no more is where.

Also hamas has had the power to put a stop to all of this since day 1 but they don't want to do the one thing that does that. Perhaps that entire generation of radicals hasn't seen/had enough if they still want to attack Israel.

Also it's fucking bunk that Arabs are justified to hate and want to kill Israel but that's not a 2 way street for some reason that makes no sense to me.

Bottom line. Let em have it out til they have both had enough and let's be done with it.

You know I don't really care about either side all that much it's just that I think Israel is justified to do whatever the hell they want until they get the terns they desire. I'm holding them to the same standards as my own country. The gwot failed because we cared way too much about killing them and they were aware from history they could wait us out.
 
Only terrorists are Israelis, and as you stated Laws don't matter, its the wild west times, just kill whoever you want, lets see your view once Israelis and crew start getting dropped all around the world.

Whatever you say dude

and we got a deal. But nobody gets to use the word genocide in the discussion
 
Funny enough that's what Israel said when they used to back Hamas. Unfortunately, the devil you know is too often better than a vacuum or who comes next in conflicts like this.
That is very true. Which is why they seem to want to hold as much control over the region as they can. They wont leave it up to coincidence.
 
Also hamas has had the power to put a stop to all of this since day 1 but they don't want to do the one thing that does that.
Like what, release the hostages? You do realize this specific attack was on a group of people that were literally meeting there to discuss a ceasefire and hostage release plan, right?

Kind of throws the notion that this could be ended with hostage releases (that Israel has shown they don't actually want) right out of the fucking window.
 
No idea, just checking where you're coming from. I'm not American so won't be lucky enough to make that choice.
The notion that Israel can physically defeat Hamas''terrorists' by killing them all is ridiculous though, when has that ever worked? You can't explode ideas. They're currently creating a generatiion of radicals across the the Middle East and turning most citizens of the Western World against them at the same time. This will all come back to them with interest eventually.
Not that I totally disagree with you but you can absolutely tear apart ideas through armed aggression like we did when the Union fought the Confederacy. Or the firebombings of Tokyo and Dresden. But you also have to have a Post-War reconstruction plan and an education program ready to build trust and to rinse out extremism. Anyways, the mission of killing every Hamas combatant is beyond comical though.
you think the pals will go for a worse terrorist org to lead them next?
They don't have any options beyond fighting or continuing to live under a Stalinist legal system and occupation. Israel has done all that it can by salting the wounds. It constantly thrashes on the Palestininan Authority by clipping away land through settlements on the West Bank. Despite that, the PA has predominately honored its obligations under the Oslo Accords, coordinates with the IDF to muzzle Hamas insurgents and aims for sovereignty through the mechanics of negotiations.

Israel has organized the incentive structure to reject diplomatic coordination for sovereignty. If you don’t fight and you work with them to stop Hamas, you get nothing in return beyond losing land.
 
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- Israel is a rogue terrorist state. Other aliues should hire Wagner, since US doesnt do nothing to protect them.
 
Like what, release the hostages? You do realize this specific attack was on a group of people that were literally meeting there to discuss a ceasefire and hostage release plan, right?

Kind of throws the notion that this could be ended with hostage releases (that Israel has shown they don't actually want) right out of the fucking window.

There's that stupid word ceasefire again

You think its more important get back who they can or make sure this never happens again? My opinion is that getting them back would be great it never happening again would be better.

Were they going to surrender unconditionally? Did i miss that in the news?
 
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