Cruickshank was getting the better of Mas.Pleasing the casuals who will respond to this thread. I hate Masvidal as much as the next guy, but he merits a mention I think, he's pretty technical.
- Edson Barbosa is leagues better in terms of variety and technique. His boxing is cleaner and he isn't even thought of as an above average boxer.
- Penn
- Edgar
- Pettis
- Gomi
- Conor
His main asset is his durability, he takes a lot of damage hoping to wear his opponents out over the course of a fight and eventually get the finish. Or win a decision in a war of attrition. That's all fine and obviously successful for him, but it doesn't make him a great striker.
McTapper is the more talented striker.So, personally I think Conor is more talented striker prime for prime. I think there's a significant gap in there. However, Poirier just knocked out that that very Conor at lightweight, and Conor really hasn't done much at all at lightweight anyways. And funny enough, Poirier outlanded Conor even in the first fight before being clipped behind the ear as well, not to mention he was landing some low kicks on Conor in that first fight too.
I see some people saying oh Conor just have to defend that calf kicks and then he would've won. Well he didn't, and he got his shit pushed in. And Conor in his entire life never checked low kicks before, whereas Poirier had that in his game for most of his career including in the very first fight with Conor. I do think Conor is significantly more talented fighter prime for prime, but he hasn't done much and got finished TWICE by getting stunned on the feet at lightweight, not to mention the first fight was at featherweight too.
The best lightweight strikers in the history of lightweight division probably runs something like Pulver, Ludwig, Edwards, Masvidal, Cerrone, Pettis, Gomi, Sakurai, Hansen, BJ, Varner, Barboza, Gaethje, Diaz, Tony, Hooker and more grappler oriented guys like Oliveira, RDA, Eddie, Gil weren't so bad either, and there are obviously new up comers like Riddel and Fiziev.
Also on top of his skills, Poirier is super tough and durable. Some people think he's chinny, but the shots behind the ear can drop people even if they have a good chin, since it's not even on the chin, and the shot Poirier got caught with against MJ probably would've knocked out Mark Hunt too that was caught right on the button and Poirier's strike defense improved tremendously after. And that was it, 33 fights, finished by strikes twice, one which was avenged. I feel like the reason that Poirier sometimes gets hit flush and appears rocked has more to do with his style than anything, but he has that grit and endurance in him to keep fighting and still perform to the best of his ability. I don't think his chin or strike defense is as bad as some people make him out to be.
Like I said, I do think skill-wise Conor is significantly better than Poirier. And perhaps there are and has been more skilled strikers than Poirier. But if you take into consideration Poirier's accomplishments at LIGHTWEIGHT division, alongside his skills, finishing power, endurance, cardio and grit, I don't think it's far fetched to argue that Poirier is the best striker in the lightweight history.
You're only looking at finishing ability, an important attribute don't get me wrong. But, but that's not skill. Dustin is a sloppy boxer, his technique is amateurish and if he didn't have a chin he would lose most of his decisions or get flattened.His main asset isn't his durability. It's his power and durability and striking skills. Poirier has a great chin, and has under-rated strike defense. HE gets into wars so he gets caught, but his striking defense isn't half as bad as some people make it out to be, you included. Edson is chinny and breaks You think Edson would beat Poirier head to head? Poirier would fuck him up good. Edgar? Not sure if fucking serious.
BJ Penn and Gomi were really good in their primes, I'm not sure how that would go. He finished Pettis AND Conor head to head. Pettis couldn't do ANyTHING against Poirier, and I did say Conor is significantly better strker, but Poirier just finished him with strikes at lightweight, and you have to take into consideration what they did at lightweight. Poirier fucked Conor up at lightweight, first fight was at FW.
From that list, BJ and Gomi stands out as guys who had talent AND accomplishment to possibly stack up at LIGHTWEIGHT. However, I think Gomi's peak was short and BJ moved around too much from WW to LW.
I do rate Gomi and BJ higher on LW Goat rankings than Poirier, but considering everything, Poirier is better LW striker based on his skills AND what he was able to accomplish, his career longevity, which eluded Gomi AND BJ.
You're only looking at finishing ability, an important attribute don't get me wrong. But, but that's not skill. Dustin is a sloppy boxer, his technique is amateurish and if he didn't have a chin he would lose most of his decisions or get flattened.
If you're talking actual skill and ability, then no, Dustin isn't even in the conversation. If you simply want to call him the best brawler then you're on to something.
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The best lightweight strikers in the history of lightweight division probably runs something like Pulver, Ludwig, Edwards, Masvidal, Cerrone, Pettis, Gomi, Sakurai, Hansen, BJ, Varner, Barboza, Gaethje, Diaz, Tony, Hooker and more grappler oriented guys like Oliveira, RDA, Eddie, Gil weren't so bad either, and there are obviously new up comers like Riddel and Fiziev.
I wonder how long would Dusting surivive against Floyd
I don't know why they deleted it. But for me, it doesn't come up on the first page at all. I've heard that your search results are tailored to your past searches.So this thread was found on Google top news feed. I made a thread about that and it got deleted, man mods do whatever they want on Sherdog nowadays
I don't know why they deleted it. But for me, it doesn't come up on the first page at all. I've heard that your search results are tailored to your past searches.
I don't know why they deleted it. But for me, it doesn't come up on the first page at all. I've heard that your search results are tailored to your past searches.
Fireball kid should be up there.
You'd think it depicts Sherdog in a positive light. Odd decision, as you said.I mean imagine deleting a thread that's saying that it came up on Google search.