Is Dustin Poirier the best striker in the lw history?

Lawrence said:
Just came in to appreciate your Jamie Varner call.

Almost forgotten savage & heel.

He was a bad guy for me back in the day, but his body of work I think stands the test of time.
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Thanks friend!

I was higher on Varner than I was on Pettis, Cerrone and Benson...

Varner just was good at finding a way to lose...
 
ThaiSexPills said:
He beat up a washed up, bum Conor that couldn’t even beat a top 10 guy according to his haters. So yeah, kind of irrelevant. He KO’ed a prime Doostin in like a minute
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Conor fans are fickle, when he wins he's GOAT and unstoppable and when he loses he's washed up lol make up your minds.
 
Moro said:
Conor fans are fickle, when he wins he's GOAT and unstoppable and when he loses he's washed up lol make up your minds.
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He’s washed up now but once upon a time, was one of the best strikers in MMA history.
 
JustOnce said:
So, personally I think Conor is more talented striker prime for prime. I think there's a significant gap in there. However, Poirier just knocked out that that very Conor at lightweight, and Conor really hasn't done much at all at lightweight anyways. And funny enough, Poirier outlanded Conor even in the first fight before being clipped behind the ear as well, not to mention he was landing some low kicks on Conor in that first fight too.

I see some people saying oh Conor just have to defend that calf kicks and then he would've won. Well he didn't, and he got his shit pushed in. And Conor in his entire life never checked low kicks before, whereas Poirier had that in his game for most of his career including in the very first fight with Conor. I do think Conor is significantly more talented fighter prime for prime, but he hasn't done much and got finished TWICE by getting stunned on the feet at lightweight, not to mention the first fight was at featherweight too.

The best lightweight strikers in the history of lightweight division probably runs something like Pulver, Ludwig, Edwards, Masvidal, Cerrone, Pettis, Gomi, Sakurai, Hansen, BJ, Varner, Barboza, Gaethje, Diaz, Tony, Hooker and more grappler oriented guys like Oliveira, RDA, Eddie, Gil weren't so bad either, and there are obviously new up comers like Riddel and Fiziev.

Also on top of his skills, Poirier is super tough and durable. Some people think he's chinny, but the shots behind the ear can drop people even if they have a good chin, since it's not even on the chin, and the shot Poirier got caught with against MJ probably would've knocked out Mark Hunt too that was caught right on the button and Poirier's strike defense improved tremendously after. And that was it, 33 fights, finished by strikes twice, one which was avenged. I feel like the reason that Poirier sometimes gets hit flush and appears rocked has more to do with his style than anything, but he has that grit and endurance in him to keep fighting and still perform to the best of his ability. I don't think his chin or strike defense is as bad as some people make him out to be.

Like I said, I do think skill-wise Conor is significantly better than Poirier. And perhaps there are and has been more skilled strikers than Poirier. But if you take into consideration Poirier's accomplishments at LIGHTWEIGHT division, alongside his skills, finishing power, endurance, cardio and grit, I don't think it's far fetched to argue that Poirier is the best striker in the lightweight history.
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Conor just wasn t the same fighter anymore when they fought the second time. Also, no, I see nothing special in Dustin's striking. It's good but he is just one a' many, nothing more nothing less.
 
Dustin's striking is actually quite strange. It happens to work great in MMA.
 
Kaiserjuan said:
Conor just wasn t the same fighter anymore when they fought the second time. Also, no, I see nothing special in Dustin's striking. It's good but he is just one a' many, nothing more nothing less.
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Well no one better when you combine skill+accomplishment in a grappling centre division historically I think
 
JustOnce said:
So, personally I think Conor is more talented striker prime for prime. I think there's a significant gap in there. However, Poirier just knocked out that that very Conor at lightweight, and Conor really hasn't done much at all at lightweight anyways. And funny enough, Poirier outlanded Conor even in the first fight before being clipped behind the ear as well, not to mention he was landing some low kicks on Conor in that first fight too.

I see some people saying oh Conor just have to defend that calf kicks and then he would've won. Well he didn't, and he got his shit pushed in. And Conor in his entire life never checked low kicks before, whereas Poirier had that in his game for most of his career including in the very first fight with Conor. I do think Conor is significantly more talented fighter prime for prime, but he hasn't done much and got finished TWICE by getting stunned on the feet at lightweight, not to mention the first fight was at featherweight too.

The best lightweight strikers in the history of lightweight division probably runs something like Pulver, Ludwig, Edwards, Masvidal, Cerrone, Pettis, Gomi, Sakurai, Hansen, BJ, Varner, Barboza, Gaethje, Diaz, Tony, Hooker and more grappler oriented guys like Oliveira, RDA, Eddie, Gil weren't so bad either, and there are obviously new up comers like Riddel and Fiziev.

Also on top of his skills, Poirier is super tough and durable. Some people think he's chinny, but the shots behind the ear can drop people even if they have a good chin, since it's not even on the chin, and the shot Poirier got caught with against MJ probably would've knocked out Mark Hunt too that was caught right on the button and Poirier's strike defense improved tremendously after. And that was it, 33 fights, finished by strikes twice, one which was avenged. I feel like the reason that Poirier sometimes gets hit flush and appears rocked has more to do with his style than anything, but he has that grit and endurance in him to keep fighting and still perform to the best of his ability. I don't think his chin or strike defense is as bad as some people make him out to be.

Like I said, I do think skill-wise Conor is significantly better than Poirier. And perhaps there are and has been more skilled strikers than Poirier. But if you take into consideration Poirier's accomplishments at LIGHTWEIGHT division, alongside his skills, finishing power, endurance, cardio and grit, I don't think it's far fetched to argue that Poirier is the best striker in the lightweight history.
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I love these threads. Its like mma started in 2010 for most sherdog posters.
 
JustOnce said:
I love how in 2005 people used to say same shit about early 2000's. "Oh no I'm old school" Love it. I bet they will say the same shit in 2030 about 2020.
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We already have a shit load of people who think the sport has evolved massively just since 2015. It's crazy.
 
fortheo said:
We already have a shit load of people who think the sport has evolved massively just since 2015. It's crazy.
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Yeah that too it's almost as if they figured out how to grow second set of arms and legs or something
 
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