Im starting to think that Tom Aspinall is highly overrated

[SuperAlly]

Man, why do you have to be so mean?

Steroids

 

[Mick Dojang]

He's a great fighter (e.g. the total shutout against Volkov) but ironically getting held up by Jones has probably given him more exposure than he would have if had just got a title shot and won it already.

Like I think his fighting ability is rated fairly but his media profile is bigger than it otherwise might have been

People generally seem to be on his side that he should get a Jones title shot and know his name because of this weird situation. Whether or not he can keep people's attention after beating Jones is a different question

 

[LEWIS540]

Well he beat derrick lewis and JDS as well common opponents volkov.and spivac. That pretty much tops Toms record.

So you're lauding Gane>Lewis but dismissing Aspinall>Pavlovic?

 

[Bork Neslar]

He's legit but he's no CM Punk.

 

[Tweak896]

It's pretty hilarious people create bullshit strawman arguments to diminish Tom

No one said Blaydes was a nightmare match up for Jon.

And whilst Gane, Blaydes and Pavlovic (with Tom running through the last 2 like a hot knife through butter) have clear deficits in their game, it's not clear what Tom's would be.

I read multiple threads about how Blaydes wrestling would stop Jones and keep it standing and he'd KO him. Too lazy to find them.

Tom is on a hot streak, but also people are overlooking his wrestling. I notice when they get into this topic they mention how large and athletic he is, similar to how many were expecting Gane to power out the wrestling.

I'm not here to hate on Tom, but open people to the idea that he may be the guy to replace the hype train of Gane or Pavlovich. It just bothers me how discussion glosses over Jones superior and proven wrestling over all his potential matches when grappling is probably the #1 factor in mma. Not even going to mention how none of the current guys are Mir or Werdum where they are incredibly dangerous off their back.

Jones can be washed and he's had enough mileage where his punch card might be up after his last injury. However considering his last performance was flawless, you can reasonably match skill per skill. It's not going to be an easy night for anyone barring a hail mary KO.

 

[Tweak896]

Cmon man. The only hw fighter Jones beat was Gane with minimal defensive grappling.

People's eyes will open when Stipe exposes Jones as a wanna be heavyweight.

To be fair atleast Stipe has better wrestling on paper than all the other options. Gane, Pavlovich, Aspinall all really don't have proven wrestling. Ironically everyone has wrote off Stipe though.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Well 19 people have liked my op so I guess they're all trolls too. Because our opinions differ we are all.a bunch of misinformed idiots living in your world.

Your arrogance is off the charts pal.

Or they just like trolls, or dislike Aspinall. Likes aren't endorsements of the things you're saying. I feel like anyone reasonable would know that, but once again: trolling or idiocy.

And "differing opinions," which you've been using as a shield as if all stances are valid, are based on a criteria, which CAN be objective, and yours is objectively bad. You're sitting here saying that the guys aren't good wins when they have wins over the guys you call good wins. That's not purely an opinion. That is measureable content, and doesn't stand up to measures.

 

[Oz.Pride]

Who did Gane beat? Their resume in UFC is pretty similar, they have fought same opponents and Tom made it look easier.

Curtis Blaydes has mentioned multiple times that Gane declined a fight with him, Aspinall with no freak injury destroyed Blaydes with ease.

Early stoppage for the local boy

 

[Oz.Pride]

Sometimes you just have to gauge the level of a fighter based of the performances you see him in. Tom has some very impressive performances vs some of the top guys in the division. Blaydes has been a consistent top 5 since 2018 and Tom took him out in 1 min by KO. Pavlovich was on a tear and got taken out by KO inside 2 mins. Volkov is a very good HW who has never been submitted in 45 fights and Tom tapped him inside the 1st round.

Considering that, it's not hard to figure out he's an elite level HW. You see this with many fighters moving up the ranks, they don't face many elite fighters yet, but you can tell based of what you see they are elite.

And it's his overall skill set too, the boxing, the athleticism and speed, the grappling. Tom is likely the best HW in the UFC.

*tko

 

[Lawrence]

If we look at his level of comp its not exactly an A list of guys.

Pav I think was exposed by volkov

Blaydes always seems to crumble when something is on the line.

Arlovski is a good win but Andrei was 42 when they fought.

Volkov is a good win.

Why are we anointing him as a king when he's only proved he's better than very weak comp.

Legit he may be the 6th best guy in the world right now

Jones
Stipe
Ngannou
Renan
Gane
Maybe even Bader who knows.

He earned his belt.

Dana put it out there and he took it.

He defended it instead of choosing to be on the shelf.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Who knows if Aspinall is the real deal or overrated. He wouldn't be the first fighter to be overrated.

If he does anything less than win & defend the UFC HW championship at least three times, then ya I'd say he's overrated compared to how people are hyping him up.

 

[stronghulk]

I really don't think anyone is claiming Tom is GOAT. I'd be shocked.

Unless it's the yin to the yang of the retard who started this thread and just some clown trolling for attention

Nobody believes Tom is GOAT. I would suggest it's highly possible he could surpass Stipe's number of title wins that gives Stipe a claim, and would elevate Tom into the conversation before his career ends.

Yeah I never said it was the smartest of people/users who claim this. I just see GOAT thrown around way to easy these days.

 

[IsNormal]

I can kinda see why you'd say Aspinall's record yet is not better than Gane.

They've both beaten Spivac and Volkov.
Their stints both started with a #15 ranked win (Arlovski and Boser)
Their best wins is a #2 at the time (Aspinall beat Pavlovich, Gane beat Lewis)

Besides that Gane has beaten two guys who were #3 at the time: Rozenstruik and Tuivasa. And an aged JDS ranked #7.
But Aspinall has only beaten a #10 Tybura

So Gane has more wins on his record.

Buuut performances should also count for something and Aspinall is ahead in that department with all his five highest ranked wins being first round KOs

 

[orca]

i say hes really good
but his biggest win
is volkov

volkov whos been fighting longer than stipe ( noobs here should check facts first)
hes a decade long gatekeeper

thats his best win

you know these jones haters
if they where actually in jones shoes
they would fight a guy that his best win is volkov

seriously jones haters your decision making in life sounds crazy

 

[TITS]

Legit he may be the 6th best guy in the world right now

Jones
Stipe
Ngannou
Renan
Gane
Maybe even Bader who knows.

You think Renan the giant can is one of the 6 best HWs in the world? What about the guys he lost to recently? You think this bum is better than Aspinall? You must be trolling.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Yeah I never said it was the smartest of people/users who claim this. I just see GOAT thrown around way to easy these days.

I haven't seen anyone claim Aspinall is GOAT. People claiming he could have beaten Fedor or Stipe in their primes doesn’t make him GOAT either, a resume over years of fighting and beating a bunch of highly ranked fighters is what makes someone the GOAT of they did it better and more than everyone else.

Aspinall could become UFC HW GOAT but I don't think he passes up Fedor.

 

[bjpenngoat]

Or they just like trolls, or dislike Aspinall. Likes aren't endorsements of the things you're saying. I feel like anyone reasonable would know that, but once again: trolling or idiocy.

And "differing opinions," which you've been using as a shield as if all stances are valid, are based on a criteria, which CAN be objective, and yours is objectively bad. You're sitting here saying that the guys aren't good wins when they have wins over the guys you call good wins. That's not purely an opinion. That is measureable content, and doesn't stand up to measures.

This is just a frosting cover to your arrogance. You think that anyone who has a differing opinion is dumb or a troll. This thread has brought out some of the worst posters here on sherdog. You can say I have a bad opinion, I can own that. But when you are so incredulous to believe that a person could have an opposing opinion you relagate it to trolling, it just makes you and some of these other posters look narcissistic.

My opinion still stands, You and your kronies here have overrated Tom based on beating tybura, buffalo bills Blaydes, old man Arlovski, exposed pav and volkov.

I still think beating any versions of derrick lewis and JDS absolutely trumps toms list.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

This is just a frosting cover to your arrogance. You think that anyone who has a differing opinion is dumb or a troll. This thread has brought out some of the worst posters here on sherdog. You can say I have a bad opinion, I can own that. But when you are so incredulous to believe that a person could have an opposing opinion you relagate it to trolling, it just makes you and some of these other posters look narcissistic.

My opinion still stands, You and your kronies here have overrated Tom based on beating tybura, buffalo bills Blaydes, old man Arlovski, exposed pav and volkov.

I still think beating any versions of derrick lewis and JDS absolutely trumps toms list.

Ran through 6 of the top 10 of the division yet is somehow overrated. Sure you're not trolling, if so you have some sort of brain damage.

 

[bjpenngoat]

Ran through 6 of the top 10 of the division yet is somehow overrated. Sure you're not trolling, if so you have some sort of brain damage.

My exact point he ran thru mediocrity. Can you read or are you just argumentative?

 

[Myrddin Wild]

His potential is great, but I agree that the hype is way too high atm. Looking forward to seeing him try to live up to it.