War Wagon Tom Haters better pull up the Tapology and Wikipedia Pages on Jailton Almeida and Start Genning Up

[RockyLockridge]

Jj fans are lying to themselves and expect you to belive it too

Dishonest? Jones could've retired at any point after the Stipe fight. I'm confused as to how there's any dishonesty. Jones floated the idea of a fight with Alex until Alex lost to Ank. Jones didn't want to retire (gee, he's already back in the testing pool and wanting to fight, shocking!)--he just didn't want to fight Aspinall.

And Jones beating Gane (and you seem to think Gane is pretty good, and relevant) so easily absolutely made Jones a legit HW and thus a unification fight with Aspinall wouldn't have been just a "cool spectacle".

I never cared about jon jones at HW.

I dont care if jones never fights again

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

I never cared about jon jones at HW.

I dont care if jones never fights again

This is a perfect response to the gaslighting constantly employed by the Jon Jones Hate Brigade. The HW fights were a fun side quest for a guy in the twilight of his career.

 

[SuperNerd]

I never cared about jon jones at HW.

I dont care if jones never fights again

#metoo?

 

[mkess101]

I never cared about jon jones at HW.

I dont care if jones never fights again

That's totally fair, and you're welcome to that perspective of course. But him strangling Gane so easily isn't a bell that can be un-rung. My personal view is that Gane was beaten before he got in the cage that night. He didn't show up, didn't seem to care, and wanted a way out. I don't think Gane is a good grappler, but he's not THAT bad. That's just my own view--but the reality is the fight went how it did. And it has helped shape the current HW division. Because IF Gane beats Aspinall (unlikely imo, but certainly possible)...the division looks even worse.

 

[Caio]

What's the point of these kind of threads? Make your favorite fighter look like some invincible god?

Tom doesn't even have haters yet.

 

[jeskola]

Genning Up ?

 

[RockyLockridge]

Because IF Gane beats Aspinall (unlikely imo, but certainly possible)...the division looks even worse.

I think this is ridiculous, But that's a common sentiment. The division looks the same regardless of who wins. the HW division doesn't magically appear better with aspinall as champion, I'd argue the exact opposite. If gane won, It would show that at the highest heights of the division there is comeptition. If aspinall were to easily beat gane, who is clearly the next best fighter (almedia not withstanding) It would show the division is actually competitive and titles can change hands any time.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I think this is ridiculous, But that's a common sentiment. The division looks the same regardless of who wins. the HW division doesn't magically appear better with aspinall as champion, I'd argue the exact opposite. If gane won, It would show that at the highest heights of the division there is comeptition. If aspinall were to easily beat gane, who is clearly the next best fighter (almedia not withstanding) It would show the division is actually competitive and titles can change hands any time.

sorry, if gane were to beat aspinall* not if aspinall were to beat gane

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Uber Volkov finishes Almeida in the 2nd round

Yea this is combed hair Volkov we're talking about here tbf imho

 

[mkess101]

I think this is ridiculous, But that's a common sentiment. The division looks the same regardless of who wins. the HW division doesn't magically appear better with aspinall as champion, I'd argue the exact opposite. If gane won, It would show that at the highest heights of the division there is comeptition. If aspinall were to easily beat gane, who is clearly the next best fighter (almedia not withstanding) It would show the division is actually competitive and titles can change hands any time.

I just mean it looks worse in that the perception will be (and maybe it's not reality, but that won't matter for awhile) that the "best" HW just left and it's a bunch of also-rans left over. If Aspinall wins and looks dominant, you at least have a dominant champ and you can build around that. Dominance breeds interest. Mike Tyson didn’t beat any elite HW's in their prime in his best years. But it was compelling because of HOW he won and how dominant he was.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I just mean it looks worse in that the perception will be (and maybe it's not reality, but that won't matter for awhile) that the "best" HW just left and it's a bunch of also-rans left over. If Aspinall wins and looks dominant, you at least have a dominant champ and you can build around that. Dominance breeds interest. Mike Tyson didn’t beat any elite HW's in their prime in his best years. But it was compelling because of HOW he won and how dominant he was.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I just mean it looks worse in that the perception will be (and maybe it's not reality, but that won't matter for awhile) that the "best" HW just left and it's a bunch of also-rans left over. If Aspinall wins and looks dominant, you at least have a dominant champ and you can build around that. Dominance breeds interest. Mike Tyson didn’t beat any elite HW's in their prime in his best years. But it was compelling because of HOW he won and how dominant he was.

I think from the casual perspective maybe, but Hardcores are interested in competition. The reason people wanted to see alex vs ankalaev isn't because alex is dominant, it's the prospect of a competitive fight that gets people interested. Mighty mouse and pantoja were dominant, but I don't see a huge increase in interest.

Gane vs Aspinall is two fighters at their peaks, rather than one fighter with a foot out of the door.

Also we speak on gane winning and it being worse. What if jones beat aspinall, Then what? The obvious thing we would get is jones retiring then Aspinall vs Gane for a vacant title. (which would be even worse Perception wise, but The same in reality)

All paths lead to Gane vs Aspinall. Jones is a detour.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

because after the Champ swats Gane like a fly Junior will be their last hope.

(1) Tom
(2) Gane
(3) Volkov - 1st round sub
(4) Pav - 1st round KO
(5) Curtis Blaydes - 1st round KO

(6) Jailton
(7) Waldo
(8) Spivac - 1st round TKO
(9) Black Beast
(10) Ante Delija

No disrespect to Cortes-Acosta, Lewis or Delija but they haven't shown me anything that would suggest they could pose a threat to Tom yet, nor do I expect them to in a million years. So it's either Ciryl 'White Belt' Gane, Jailton or hope the Champ's knee gives out for the haters. As he's 32 and otherwise could be on top for a while. Here are your links:

Jailton Almeida ("Malhadinho") | MMA Fighter Page | Tapology

Jailton "Malhadinho" Almeida (22-4-0) is a Pro MMA Fighter out of Salvador, Bahia, Brazil. View complete Tapology profile, bio, rankings, photos, news and record.

www.tapology.com

Jailton Almeida - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I actually don't think he'll get past Drago, but even if he does it wouldn't mean a lot regarding Tom as obviously they are very different, and Tom is a much better grappler who subbed Volkov in under four minutes. So better start crossing those fingers!

Triple nip "hey there" delijah and Tom are friendsies, so that fight is a non-starter. Tom is also buddies with Phil "the bag with" Defries @fries in the bag , so even if you were fantasizing about B-league HW matchups for Tommy boy, you might as well forget that one.

Cortex Acosta and Jailton are really the only matchups left for Tom at HW in UFC if he beats Cereal Grains.

 

[mkess101]

I think from the casual perspective maybe, but Hardcores are interested in competition. The reason people wanted to see alex vs ankalaev isn't because alex is dominant, it's the prospect of a competitive fight that gets people interested. Mighty mouse and pantoja were dominant, but I don't see a huge increase in interest.

Gane vs Aspinall is two fighters at their peaks, rather than one fighter with a foot out of the door.

Also we speak on gane winning and it being worse. What if jones beat aspinall, Then what? The obvious thing we would get is jones retiring then Aspinall vs Gane for a vacant title. (which would be even worse Perception wise, but The same in reality)

All paths lead to Gane vs Aspinall. Jones is a detour.

I think some of it really is HOW fights are won. Even hardcore fans can be turned off by a fight like Ank/Alex 1. But a champ that's not just winning, but knocking everyone out? It's compelling and an easy sell.

We saw Jones ruin people when he was younger. His destruction of Shogun for the belt. Dropping Machida like a sack of bricks after choking him unconscious. But then we've also seen him in some real snoozers later on.

Alex isn't popular only because most of his wins are exciting KO's...but that's a big part of it. Aspinall right now is a bit out-of-sight-out-of-mind. But if he gets back and is active and keeps knocking everyone out? Casuals and die hards will all want to watch.

 

[cade187]

The only Tom haters are Jones fans that want to pretend Jones never ducked him.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Aspinall right now is a bit out-of-sight-out-of-mind. But if he gets back and is active and keeps knocking everyone out? Casuals and die hards will all want to watch.

Why wouldn't casuals and die hards want to watch if gane Ko'd aspinall? They should be just as happy the divisions direction and current perception would be the same. IMO HW in general is out of site out of mind.

ever since francis left, HW has been a circus because of Jones. Who I've wanted out of the picture for quite some so that we can get match ups like this one, Instead of glorified retirement fights. People wanted Jones vs Aspinall SO bad that it held things up for a whole year +. I think the whole will they wont they thing was just a petty vindictive way for jones waste toms time. it feels like there hasn't been a HW champ since francis. this is the first REAL hw title fight in ages,

 

[jeff7b9]

What in the 6-7 is fucking "genning up" ?







In the future if everyone could fuck all the way off with trying to talk like a 12 year old that would be great mmmmkay?

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

The HW fights were a fun side quest for a guy in the twilight of his career.

That would have been fine if he hadnt held the belt hostage for over two years.

 

[mkess101]

Why wouldn't casuals and die hards want to watch if gane Ko'd aspinall? They should be just as happy the divisions direction and current perception would be the same. IMO HW in general is out of site out of mind.

ever since francis left, HW has been a circus because of Jones. Who I've wanted out of the picture for quite some so that we can get match ups like this one, Instead of glorified retirement fights. People wanted Jones vs Aspinall SO bad that it held things up for a whole year +. I think the whole will they wont they thing was just a petty vindictive way for jones waste toms time. it feels like there hasn't been a HW champ since francis. this is the first REAL hw title fight in ages,

Oh sure if Gane knocks him out and then follows it up with more exciting performances? People will watch. But they won't be as interested if he tries (and succeeds) in winning via sparring match where he doesn't want to engage. I'm saying Aspinall because he's shown the style and ability to consistently score early finishes like Tyson did when he was must-see. Gane hasn't approach that, and his style doesn't seem to lend itself to it.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

That would have been fine if he hadnt held the belt hostage for over two years.

I blame the org for that