You would have a point if it was describing a one off "fluke" win, somewhat like Conor / Aldo
When a guy is routinely starving everyone in the top 10 in the first round it's because he is so much fucking better than them. That's real skill. He doesn't need 5 rounds to grind them out. He gets them out of there in under 5 minutes due to being vastly more skillful.
Dumb take
He gets them out of there because he has more power, he’s younger and he’s faster. If you pay attention, Aspinall is not defensively responsible at all. Most of the shots he lands, it’s because he has no reason to fear or respect the other person— because he’s confident he’s going to land first. You can say I’m a hater or whatever. But he I’ve watched him not move his head and trade hooks with people on the center line.
Wtf does me saying Tom has a superior ground game to Gane have to do with Jones and Pav other than you being unable to read?
Also could not give 3 fucks less about explaining why they're wrong. Entire fucking thread full of other posters taking care of that quite well.
You said he deserves to be ranked higher because he has a better ground game. Having a better ground game doesn’t necessarily make you a better fighter nor does it mean you should be ranked higher than the actual merit of your wins. You didn’t explain how his actual wins are superior to Gane.
I think Aspinall’s wins are marginally better due to simply having more. But to act like there’s a huge gulf between them is just not true.
Considering that Aspinall is bigger, faster, stronger, a legitimate bjj black belt who hasn't been outgrappled since he was trying to get into boxing, then it's very hard to see Jones as the smaller, weaker guy outgrappling him.
As for your 2nd point, you'd be more impressed if he was to take on a Belal Muhammad point fighting style rather than just walking through guys?
Jones has no option but to go 5 rounds because he has no power. His only way to beat Aspinall is to stay on the outside for 5 rounds and hope he doesn't get caught.
Going into a fight knowing only one guy can finish it is an enormous advantage for that guy.
Good Lord, there’s so much wrong with this post. For starters, what exactly legitimized Tom Aspinall’s black belt for you? Who gave it to him? It was hard for me to see Jones out grappling Cormier. We both know that same Cormier would absolutely ragdoll Aspinall. So if what you’re saying is that Jones skill could have diminished with age at this stage in his career, then you might have a point there.
Oh, one hundred percent without question. What happens if Aspinall doesn’t finish the person in the first round? We don’t even know what he looks like in the second round. I’m past the point where front runners impress me. Anyone can look amazing while going one hundred percent. And if you can get the guy out of there, more power to you. But there’s going to come a time where you fight someone that won’t lay down like that.
I disagree. Jones has more finishes than Aspinall has wins. So statistically, that makes no sense. Jones is confident enough in his skill and stamina that he doesn’t have throw caution to the wind and rush to get them out of there.
1) If you go into a fight with Jones thinking he can’t finish you, you’re crazy.
2) How did that work out for GSPs or Mayweather’s opponents?
