Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

[Spounman]

it doesn't matter. they commit less crimes than americans.

The fact that they are in America illegally (keyword, highlight illegally), is a crime
EVERY single one of them has committed at least one crime but they commit less crimes than Americans.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

The way right wingers view it, is that the left wingers didn't care about the law when the country was flooded with people who didn't come here the legal way, so they don't give a shit about people pining about the law.

right. the logical conclusion of this proposed dilemma being that lefties don't think it should be illegal to travel between countries uninhibited and righties don't think it should be illegal to round people up and ship them off to el salvador without due process.

 

[Aurelian]

No, it doesn't. Take a civics class. Not to mention the courts have ruled against this regime numerous times. I'm not going to continue responding to someone who doesn't even remotely understand how the US government works

And the Executive Branch continues to do whatever the fuck they want. That's what you're missing here. They control full power over the enforcement of the courts rulings.

 

[Osculater]

Funny you dirtbag losers keep sharing the same clip with the beginning edited out. That guy was trying to set police horses on fire.

Police cowboys yeeeehaaaaaaw!

 

[oldshadow]

Should ICE/Trump admin be required to follow the laws/constitution?

Your interpretation or the Supreme Courts.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

The fact that they are in America illegally (keyword, highlight illegally), is a crime
EVERY single one of them has committed a crime but they commit less crimes than Americans.

being here "illegally" does not literally make it a criminal offense. it's a civil matter. they are by definition not committing a crime.

 

[Mr Holmes]

it doesn't matter. they commit less crimes than americans. this country would literally have less crime if americans left at the same rate illegals came in.

oh wait, that makes me think...

as soon as the borders opened up by a shitload, crime went down exponentially and GDP/tax revenue exploded.

The study out of Arizona showed illegals commited more crime. You can't lump illegals and legal immigrants in the same bucket.

 

[HomeCheese]

Your interpretation or the Supreme Courts.

Why is it hard for you to say Trump admin should follow the laws/constitution? Strange.

 

[Pittie Petey]

The fact that they are in America illegally (keyword, highlight illegally), is a crime
EVERY single one of them has committed at least one crime but they commit less crimes than Americans.

Americans commit more than one crime, that math aint as hard as you seem to think it is

 

[Spounman]

being here "illegally" does not literally make it a criminal offense. it's a civil matter. they are by definition not committing a crime.

Holy shit, you're smarter than Google

Yes, unlawfully entering the United States is considered a crime, specifically a federal misdemeanor offense under 8 U.S. Code § 1325, also known as "Improper Entry by Alien".
Here's why and the associated penalties:

• Federal Law: 8 U.S. Code § 1325 makes it a crime for an alien to enter or attempt to enter the U.S. at a time or place other than designated by immigration officials, to elude examination or inspection, or to obtain entry through false statements.
• Misdemeanor: For a first offense of improper entry, the individual can be fined or imprisoned for up to 6 months, or both.
• Felony: A subsequent offense of illegal entry can be considered a felony, and the individual can be fined or imprisoned for up to 2 years, or both.
• Illegal Re-entry: It's also a crime (a felony) to unlawfully reenter or attempt to reenter the U.S. after having been deported, ordered removed, or denied admission, with potentially higher penalties if the person was previously removed after being convicted of certain crimes.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

You don't know what DUE PROCESS means. That's your issue.

They are preprogrammed due to the media. Like with Kilmer Garcia thread, when you point out that he had seen two immigration courts, both judges determined he was a gang banger and put in a deportation order.

What due process is missing, oh yea, none.

The illegals the rounded up over the weekend in La, also known criminals and have deportation orders. It is really that simple lol.

If an illegal person happens to be with these people when they are taken, they are taken also likely, and taken to a detention center. Simple as

 

[deviake]

US immigration agents mistakenly detain deputy marshal in Arizona

Deputy marshal ‘fit general description of a subject being sought’ and was briefly detained, Marshals Service says

www.theguardian.com

 

[Croo67]

Are we now in the Mexican flag era?

That’ll be all the Palestine flags scrunched up and shoved in a cupboard alongside the now lesser-spotted Ukrainian flag.

 

[oldshadow]

that takes time. you need, at minimum, probable cause for detainment and warrants for release of information. that's part of the constitution. you can't just kidnap a person at gunpoint, and then say it's on THEM to prove they're here legally. oh and by the way, they only have two hours.

If they have proof they are here ileagly especially if all that is required is to check their finger prints because they have been kicked out before it doesn't take long.

 

[Osculater]

US immigration agents mistakenly detain deputy marshal in Arizona

Deputy marshal ‘fit general description of a subject being sought’ and was briefly detained, Marshals Service says

www.theguardian.com

He looked illegal to ICE

 

[Crazy Source]

The executive branch controls the law. If you refuse to follow their orders you are breaking the law.

Piss off, foreigner.

 

[oldshadow]

Why is it hard for you to say Trump admin should follow the laws/constitution? Strange.

They should follow the Supreme Courts decision on what is constitutional.

 

[Lycandroid]

give it to whom? guys in masks and ICE gear are kidnapping people in courtrooms while their lawyers go to the bathroom. do you think those people are being brought to a top secret NSA lab that has info on every single human being in the country so they can look themselves up? you don't have to be an american citizen to be here legally, by the way.

You live in a fantasy world, it shouldn't be hard to verify anyone and if it is, it is likely because they are illegal.

And yes when someone who is not a citizen comes here legally they give their information at the border. You've never traveled have you ?

How should the police decide who’s papers they need to check?

Start with those breaking the law, as is the case in the raids that sparked these riots.

They do not fully. We are not a dictatorship. Trending that direction but we're not there yet. You don't understand the basics of the US government if you believe that

Trump won an election on this, it's the exact opposite of a dictatorship giving the people what they want. Standing in the way of that is much further down the road of authoritarianism

it doesn't matter. they commit less crimes than americans. this country would literally have less crime if americans left at the same rate illegals came in.

oh wait, that makes me think...

as soon as the borders opened up by a shitload, crime went down exponentially and GDP/tax revenue exploded.

What would it take for you to understand the difference between illegal and legal immigrant ? Or would that cause your brain to have a critical failure ?

being here "illegally" does not literally make it a criminal offense. it's a civil matter. they are by definition not committing a crime.

You are 100% incorrect.

 

[AbominableJoman]

Are we now in the Mexican flag era?

That’ll be all the Palestine flags scrunched up and shoved in a cupboard alongside the now lesser-spotted Ukrainian flag.

Ukrainians aren’t brown enough for libtards to care about anymore.

 

[Aurelian]

Piss off, foreigner.

LOL, dude the Supreme Courts can make rulings until the cows come home, but they have no power to actually enforce them. It's a fact of the flawed system we have.

I'm full blooded American comrade.