Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

Seems as traumatic as being in a foreign land dodging bullets and shrapnel aimed at removing all of your limbs and ending your life
Fallujah 2004. Downtown Los Angeles 2025. Ya completely the same thing.

Why is the LAPD opposing Trump’s Marine deployment in Los Angeles?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...osing-trumps-marine-deployment-in-los-angeles

LA protests updates: Trump compares demonstrations to a foreign ‘invasion’

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/live...ends-sending-marines-amid-standoff-with-state


What to know about the protests over Trump’s immigration crackdown in LA and other cities

https://apnews.com/article/insurrec...tional-guard-a842f79e1c0e244039be274a6f266a7a

"Trump has ordered the deployment of roughly 4,000 National Guard troops and 700 Marines to Los Angeles following protests over his stepped-up enforcement of immigration laws.

Police made 81 arrests on Wednesday, most for failing to disperse on the second night of a curfew in downtown Los Angeles. Nearly 470 LA protesters have been detained or arrested since Saturday, according to police.

The protests intensified after Trump called up the Guard and have since spread to other cities, including Boston, Chicago and Seattle. And more are scheduled for this weekend as Trump stages a military parade in Washington."
 
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Holy shit, I go to foxnews for a second and I see this.


Alejandro Theodoro Orellana was taken into custody on suspicion of conspiracy to commit civil disorders.

Is this real life? The feds are arresting people for handing mask out, and then charging them with conspiracy to commit CIVIL disorder? WTF does that even mean? And they did a string operation to arrest him at his home? How much money did they spend to do this? How much money will they spend on it taking it to trial? SMH
Don't be upset that your little hero got fucked.
 

What did the LAPD say about the Marine deployment?​

“The possible arrival of federal military forces in Los Angeles absent clear coordination presents a significant logistical and operational challenge for those of us charged with safeguarding this city,” he said."

What does the LAPD mean by this?​

Just one example of how inappropriate use of Marine force superimposed on local police force can escalate rather than deescalate a situation, inject more chaos, create dangerous conditions for civilians and law enforcement.

"On one occasion in 1992, LAPD officers and Marines were called to respond to a domestic disturbance at a local home.

When they arrived, a shotgun was fired out the front door. A police officer yelled, “Cover me,” which to the police means to prepare to shoot if necessary but to hold one’s fire. For Marines trained for combat, “cover me” means to use firepower. The Marines shot more than 200 bullets instantly as a response to the officer. Three children were inside the home at the time. While no one was killed, federal soldiers were withdrawn from Los Angeles shortly after this."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...osing-trumps-marine-deployment-in-los-angeles
 
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I have not misrepresented anything
Yes you have, on more than one occasion. Fairly dishonest on your part. Maybe you should contend with this part moving forward.
You are taking an incredibly ignorant and incorrect position that trauma and stress only matters for service members who are in combat
Your claim that training and preparedness has no effect on how stressful a situation can be
Neither one of those represents my pov accurately (more stress vs less stress)
Fallujah 2004. Downtown Los Angeles 2025. Ya completely the same thing.
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Drone pilots have among the highest PTSD rates, yet by your logic shouldn't because they aren't in a foreign land dodging bullets and shrapnel.
Quite a leap of logic by using highest rates of PTSD vs defending your homeland from disorderly civilians armed with stones and firecrackers (hint: clearly stressful but far from the highest rate of PTSD)
 
All this over an 80/20 issue lol

It’s either they are totally controlled by their desire to make spectacles of themselves or they are simply playing the wrong long game

One thing I’ll never concede is that the democrats actually give a fuck about regular people, however.



lol, all the democrats are making posts now about how this is unacceptable and authoritarian.

Also, I just saw this clip, good stuff

 
Quite a leap of logic by using highest rates of PTSD vs defending your homeland from disorderly civilians armed with stones and firecrackers (hint: clearly stressful but far from the highest rate of PTSD)
Again, you never know. Specialization exists in life for a reason, it's why we send cops to police academies, not boot camp.
 

Russia is amplifying conspiracy theories about the L.A. protests

Pro-Russian accounts are spreading baseless claims, from Mexico fomenting the protests to a secret leftist cabal tied to Democrats orchestrating them.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ing-conspiracy-theories-l-protests-rcna212652

Misinformation about LA Ice protests swirls online: ‘Catnip for rightwing agitators’

Many posts spread the idea that mayhem overtook LA while police confrontations were limited to a small part of the city

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/10/los-angeles-ice-protests-misinformation

Pro-Kremlin Media Hail Los Angeles Unrest As 'Civil War'

https://www.rferl.org/a/kremlin-media-los-angeles-protests/33441285.html
 
Damn, ole boy ain't messing around in Florida.
That’s just common sense. “If you use deadly force against cops they’ll use it back”. He’s grand standing and making announcements that highlight procedure that’s been around forever.

“If you drive over the speed limit and we catch you, we’ll give you a ticket! FLORIDA DONT PLAY!”
 
That’s just common sense. “If you use deadly force against cops they’ll use it back”. He’s grand standing and making announcements that highlight procedure that’s been around forever.

“If you drive over the speed limit and we catch you, we’ll give you a ticket! FLORIDA DONT PLAY!”
Shut the fuck up. You'd lose your shit if they kill someone for throwing a brick. That sure as hell hasn't been the case in LA.
 
You keep trying to detract from the topic by bringing up combat. At no point in my original post was that mention, nor was the level of stress mentioned. In fact, it was made clear to you in every post that followed that I made no attempt to even quantify the level of stress. Yet you're sitting here demanding counters to baseless claims you are making.

Combat veterans have high levels of PTSD because they are exposed to extreme stress continously. But non combative vets are also at risk of developing it because, surprise surprise, combat isn't the only source of intense stress in the military. One of my Instructors in MOS school has PTSD from seeing a Marine get turned to salsa during a maintaining accident. I doubt he particularly cares if combat is more stressful, he still has to deal with the trauma.

Any profession where you are exposed to high levels if stress and violence will leave you at risk of developing PTSD. That's why police officers are also high risk for it.


Every deployment is potentially violent. You can deploy to a combat zone and experience no violence. I know many Marines who deployed to the middle east several time and did nothing but kick up sand. Same with these protests. The marines could just sit around and not get involved or they can be forced to engage American citizens with force.

This is explicitly why I did not make any comparisons. There are too many variables to compare the situation. Not every war time vet saw combat. Not every one that saw combat in traumatized. Stress operates at an individual level. You cant make sweeping comparisons. It will always vary person to person.


Youve literally done nothing but argue semantics and divert the conversation the entire time.

I would go to combat against a foreign enemy over attacking my own people. Any day of the week. I trained to go out and fight in unfamiliar lands and know what needs to be done. That's part of being a Marine. What is going on in LA is not. We have no place there and I sincerely hope we are not forced to engage with civilians.

You need to shut the fuck up with all this veteran bullshit. Almost all the men in the military vote for Republicans. Fuck them and their fascist bullshit. They will start killing Americans at the drop of the hat if Trump asked them to. They have spent the last 250 years killing black and brown people overseas and here you are bending over crying for them
 
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Thanks for your support, see you later motherfucker!

 
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