I feel bad for former WEC Champs

[TheCryingElite]

If you're going to join the party late try bringing something new to the table.

I did. No one in that entire argument once thought to say, Faber had already held the belt that McGregor holds today. Aldo held it before that(McGregor) and Cruz is a G still holding his. You're standpoint and how you are arguing it is very Mac-esque I must say.

It goes to prove that the FW and BW belts of WEC were legit, as the UFC thought it was only right they'd be their first two champions when Cruz and Aldo came over. So now you're only argument is that past champs are currently not that best. Well no shit, that how time works.

 

[TheCryingElite]

You just answered your own question.



You said two years was a long time when compared with other champions two years isn't that long of a time. GSP, Barao, Aldo, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva, Demetrius Johnson, Tito Ortiz, Dominick Cruz, and Ronda Rousey far surpass 2 years with a belt. Also take your passive-aggressive nonsense and shove it up your loose butthole.



This question has already been answered.



Edgar is not a natural 155er, right? So while Faber was killing himself to make weight in WEC Edgar was destroying people at 155, right? In a better organization, right? With stiffer competition, right? You can go away now because you have no idea what you're talking about, at all. Oh, they're world champions because WEC says so? Pfff, get over yourself.



Oh boy, another adult loser with their identity attached to a web forum.

Actually Edgar is a natural light weight. As in he hardly cut weight at all when he fought at 155. That's that "natural" part about it.

 

[Judge Lance Ito]

Guys like Wineland, Faber, Bowles, Torres, etc...who will never be seen as One of the all time greats because they never won a UFC Title

lol that's cause none of them are all time greats. If they were "all time greats" they would have did better in the UFC

 

[DaveHilly]

Man I know exactly how you feel. I feel the same about the strike force womens champs. Bums me out that Kaufman won't be remembered like she should be.

 

[BJ@LW&WW]

i think faber and torres will be well remembered for their WEC championship runs. the other guys, especially bowles, will easily be forgotten.

Condit had as many title defenses as Torres, and never went to a decision in a title defense. Torres went to a decision in his defense against Takeya Mizugaki. Only reason Condit didn't hold on to the title is because the higher weight class divisions in the WEC were absorbed into the UFC, which already had a champion.

the fact remains, condit was not #1 in the world when he had that wec title, while torres was.

 

[myjohnson9]

Guys like Wineland, Faber, Bowles, Torres, etc...who will never be seen as One of the all time greats because they never won a UFC Title

Yet they were all World Champs at a time where the WEC was the top promotion for the lighter guys. It was the UFC for the Bantamweights, Featherweights...etc.

I don't hold the same belief for the WEC LW Belt, because the UFC LW division already existed and was the premiere organzation.

I feel bad for some of those guys who did become the best 145'ers/135'ers in the world at one point but will never be given the distinction of being an all time great due to not having a "UFC" title in their resume

So true, look how many people shit on Aldo

 

[myjohnson9]

And he actually won UFC gold

 

[TheNightmanCometh]

I did. No one in that entire argument once thought to say, Faber had already held the belt that McGregor holds today. Aldo held it before that(McGregor) and Cruz is a G still holding his. You're standpoint and how you are arguing it is very Mac-esque I must say.

It goes to prove that the FW and BW belts of WEC were legit, as the UFC thought it was only right they'd be their first two champions when Cruz and Aldo came over. So now you're only argument is that past champs are currently not that best. Well no shit, that how time works.

Actually it was discussed at length, but could I really expect you to read the thread? I love when the new person to the party reiterates everything already said as if it is a profound thought.

Since you're so good at reading, why don't you quote me where I said the WEC belt wasn't "legit". I'll wait....

Actually Edgar is a natural light weight. As in he hardly cut weight at all when he fought at 155. That's that "natural" part about it.

So he cut weight, right? Going by your definition he isn't a natural 155er either, right? I suppose Edgar is a natural 170er, right? You can stop trying now because you already missed the party.

 

[fortheo]

Actually Edgar is a natural light weight. As in he hardly cut weight at all when he fought at 155. That's that "natural" part about it.

He's a troll, and not even a very good one. If you've read one sentence from him, then you've read them all.

 

[Lowercase p]

I was a big Torres fan, so I was bummed to see his decline.

 

[TheCryingElite]

Actually it was discussed at length, but could I really expect you to read the thread? I love when the new person to the party reiterates everything already said as if it is a profound thought.

Since you're so good at reading, why don't you quote me where I said the WEC belt wasn't "legit". I'll wait....



So he cut weight, right? Going by your definition he isn't a natural 155er either, right? I suppose Edgar is a natural 170er, right? You can stop trying now because you already missed the party.

Lol you're whole argument is insinuating the WEC belts aren't legit by the very point of shitting on past champions that held them. Just cause you didn't say those exact words doesn't mean that wasn't what you were arguing. You just like to explain your short opinion long. Yes he was a natural lightweight(Edgar) Everyone besides you agrees with that. You weren't even making a point when he brought him into the argument anyway. So that's really a moot point. Anyway, have a great night.

 

[TheNightmanCometh]

He's a troll, and not even a very good one. If you've read one sentence from him, then you've read them all.

Oh look another adult trying to salvage their ego by tossing around the word "troll". Either join the discussion or don't, but sitting around trying to gossip about someone and derailing the topic is quite pathetic.

 

[MrMightyMouse]

hendo and FEDOR were way MORE accomplished AND BETTER than Faber IMO.

There is no comparison, faber couldn't carry either of their jockstraps...

 

[Davemeddlehed]

being the number 2 guy? he is not the number 2 guy in either division. it was Barao and now its TJ. Frankly Faber is nothing more than a gatekeeper in the UFC.... same as Dan Henderson. Legendary careers but the casual fan will always view them as just not good enough

lol as a Bisping fan I took great pride adding Hendo to that lol

Still trying that "Dan Henderson is a gatekeeper before I go to bed" troll angle I see. Have you even slept in the last 68 hours?

 

[TheCryingElite]

Saying premiere organization for fighters under 155 is meaningless to me. No, it didn't make him the best FW in the world at the time. Faber was never the best FW in the world. Wineland was never the "world" champion. Torres was also never the best in the world. So Serra beating GSP means he is the best in the world? Uh, no, it doesn't...you have no idea what you're talking about, at all.

See a post like this is insinuating the WEC belts weren't legit. Just cause you write a whole paragraph beating around the bush instead of actually saying verbatim(WEC belts weren't Legit) Doesn't mean that wasn't precisely what you meant. Come off it lad.

 

[TheNightmanCometh]

Lol you're whole argument is insinuating the WEC belts aren't legit by the very point of shitting on past champions that held them. Just cause you didn't say those exact words doesn't mean that wasn't what you were arguing. You just like to explain your short opinion long. Yes he was a natural lightweight(Edgar) Everyone besides you agrees with that. You weren't even making a point when he brought him into the argument anyway. So that's really a moot point. Anyway, have a great night.

Saying you're not the best in the world because you won a WEC belt isn't the same as saying the WEC belt isn't "legit". Please, get some reading comprehension. This is absolutely hilarious...

"Just cause you didn't say those exact words doesn't mean that wasn't what you were arguing."

That is exactly what it means, you clown. The fact you interpreted it that way even after being corrected is hysterical. Everyone? You mean one other person in this thread since the time you've said Edgar was a natural 155er? Is that what you mean by everyone? The point was made numerous times now. Do you really not understand why I brought Frankie Edgar up to argue that Faber wasn't the best 135er in the world? Does this really need to be explained to you? Take your passive-aggressive nonsense and shove it up your loose butthole.

See a post like this is insinuating the WEC belts weren't legit. Just cause you write a whole paragraph beating around the bush instead of actually saying verbatim(WEC belts weren't Legit) Doesn't mean that wasn't precisely what you meant. Come off it lad.

Buddy, I never said the WEC belts weren't legit. Get some reading comprehension because I'm not going to hold a grown man's hand and explain to him what words mean, understood?

 

[Davemeddlehed]

Hard to say someone was a "world champ" when they get smoked by Dominick Cruz. You feel bad? None of the guys you mentioned were the best 145/135 at any point during the history of combat sports. Faber had multiple shots at a title, couldn't do it, but you think he was a world champ? Torres went on a ridiculous string of losses after lots of people thinking he was the next big thing. Wineland? Can't put a string of wins together. Bowles? Brah...

So then who was? Fill us in on who the best 135lb fighter in the world was, and who the best 145lb fighter was.

 

[TheNightmanCometh]

So then who was? Fill us in on who the best 135lb fighter in the world was, and who the best 145lb fighter was.

It has already been covered, for the love of God get some reading comprehension. I do not want to read an entire thread to you, find some answers for yourself. Especially when they've been said over and over in this very thread and on this very page.

 

[rpn453]

It has already been covered, for the love of God get some reading comprehension. I do not want to read an entire thread to you, find some answers for yourself. Especially when they've been said over and over in this very thread and on this very page.

I may have missed it as well. You seem to be saying that Edgar was the best 145 and 135 pound fighter in the world at the time despite not fighting at those weights, but nobody else is buying it.

 

[TheCryingElite]

Saying you're not the best in the world because you won a WEC belt isn't the same as saying the WEC belt isn't "legit". Please, get some reading comprehension. This is absolutely hilarious...

"Just cause you didn't say those exact words doesn't mean that wasn't what you were arguing."

That is exactly what it means, you clown. The fact you interpreted it that way even after being corrected is hysterical. Everyone? You mean one other person in this thread since the time you've said Edgar was a natural 155er? Is that what you mean by everyone? The point was made numerous times now. Do you really not understand why I brought Frankie Edgar up to argue that Faber wasn't the best 135er in the world? Does this really need to be explained to you? Take your passive-aggressive nonsense and shove it up your loose butthole.



Buddy, I never said the WEC belts weren't legit. Get some reading comprehension because I'm not going to hold a grown man's hand and explain to him what words mean, understood?

So what's the Venn Diagram between when someone wasn't world champion holding a WEC belt and it being a Legit Championship belt look like? What's the cut off point? How much of it has to due with the relevancy of your taking a keen eye toward the sport? I'm talking about the consensus opinion of Edgar being a natural light weight, not just in the finite parameters of this thread....yeesh. Edgar fighting at 155, whilst Faber fighting at 135? What? You could of just said, Hey...Edgar beat Faber in an actual sanctioned bout. Instead of waxing on about a time where both didn't fight at the same weight class and therefore wasn't even a relevant point. I SAID GOOD NIGHT!