Social How a Gen Z gender divide is reshaping democracy

[Mujeriego]

If you think that type of woman is representative of the majority I'd suggest you are rather misled and possibly you are one of those terminally-online people, because alongside these women with impossible standards that only seem to crop up online (to the rage of online masculinity wherever they encounter them) normal women, who work in supermarkets, are getting together with normal men, who work as truck drivers, and normal women, who work as doctor's receptionists, are marrying normal men, who work as electricians, and normal women who work as nurses, are marrying normal men who work as cops, and etc and etc and etc and etc and etc, all the fucking time

As they say, go outside, touch grass, the internet does not encompass the real world and very often it distorts it

Hes an online boob.
Most naturally hot women are with guys that are not as attractive as them.
The B Listers or decent women who want to be the Hottest girl are the ones that get their lips done and and everything enhanced.
Those real attractive women, dont need that validation because they already have it.

 

[Koro_11]

It's funny to see you mention Andrew Tate in that context. 65% of what you say is right out of his playbook.

Well ideally I prefer the happy middle ground I ended up in, but if it's between being a male feminist simp or Andrew Tate, I'd rather be Tate.

 

[Koro_11]

I don't think I'm the exception. I do pay child support but she also buys stuff she needs for school etc so it's all good. I would say the majority of the people I know who have split with the mother of their child get to see the kids regularly although of course some women will use the kids as a weapon but I think a lot of that comes down to selection. Even though I'm not with my ex if she was a cunt I wouldn't have been with her in the first place.

If that's the case I think you're in the lucky minority.

Most divorced guys I know who have children with their ex have told me nightmare stories.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

If that's the case I think you're in the lucky minority.

Most divorced guys I know who have children with their ex have told me nightmare stories.

Might be more of a North American thing. I think you guys have more blood sucky lawyers than us which probably doesn't help. Most of my kids friends who's parents are divorced seem to see both parents regularly.

 

[cooks1]

Well ideally I prefer the happy middle ground I ended up in, but if it's between being a male feminist simp or Andrew Tate, I'd rather be Tate.

Well you are certainly no male feminist simp. There is no disputing that. But a lot of what you write does have a bit of the dark undercurrent you credit to Tate. Not that you would care, but I give you high marks just for acknowledging Tate's darkness. And I mean that.

You may think me a male feminist simp, and that is fine. But I think both the girls and the guys are doing OK all things considered. Previous generations have completely ass-fucked pretty much everyone born after 2000. Their decisions to wait to have kids......and have fun while they wait......make perfect sense to me given the socio economic climate.

And smart fellas that recognize the cheese has been moved since the 1950's are having no trouble at all finding truly equitable partnerships. Even men that have traditional stay at home wives are evolving to value that correctly, unlike their fathers and grandfathers who simply expected it. They are sharing more of the house work and parenting roles now, which is excellent. And increasingly if the woman happens to be better at making the $, they will take on the stay at home role. Men are nearly 1 in 5 stay at home parents now. And that is also just fine.

There is a way forward for people if they just stop their whining.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Wait it out. Nature will sort this shit out. This generation will be a cautionary tale to young women in the future. Not necessarily on the career end, but on the marriage and family end, yeah, I think the young women of the future will be looking at a whole lot of bitter old single feminists, and perhaps not follow all of their leads.

It's already happening. They hit 30 and want to have kids and they can't because they had five abortions in their 20s and their shit doesn't work any more.

 

[SurferH2O]

On that we agree. That's just fucking awful. I've had some good friends end up like that (ironically most of them dumped their perfectly serviceable first wives and went younger) and it's gut wrenching to see what it does to them. But even you must acknowledge that respect is a 2-Way street, and women are disrespected FAR more. Even now. And that is equally awful. Domestic abuse is most definitely not going down.

I grew up with 4 pretty sisters and I am right in the middle... with no brothers. I know all about asshole guys that don't respect women and I've beaten the shit out of a few of them that decided to be less than kind to one of my sisters. They knew who I was prior and line stepped hard. I believe I did them a service and education. I've also been married for 30 years this September... to a stay at home wife / mother that I think the world of.

I have some close friends that "upgraded" their wives only to regret the new idiot they are stuck with. I agree there as well.

The Gen Z women are going to grow old, lonely, and as cat ladies. I've seen this story before, but now it's on steroids. They have been raised to hate the "Patriarchy" and it's going to turn out very sad for them.

 

[UberHere]

Hes an online boob.
Most naturally hot women are with guys that are not as attractive as them.
The B Listers or decent women who want to be the Hottest girl are the ones that get their lips done and and everything enhanced.
Those real attractive women, dont need that validation because they already have it.

I see tons of beat dudes with gorgeous women. In my experience if you can make a woman laugh you’ve got a pretty good chance.

 

[HereticBD]

I see tons of beat dudes with gorgeous women. In my experience if you can make a woman laugh you’ve got a pretty good chance.

Yup. Personality goes a long way with women. We've all seen "How in the fuck?" couples out there, where some average/way below average looking dude is pulling AAA pussy. You rarely, if ever, see the opposite. Sarah plain and tall and Large Marge ain't getting a Brad Pitt looking dude.

 

[HereticBD]

The 'new' model may well go back to traditional households but not traditional gender roles. Money is too important in our society. If childcare gets too high and the female is on a better earning and career arc, it's gonna be, and increasingly is, the Dad's heading back into the home. And I think that's just fine.

Sure, but I doubt women will put up with "Stay at home Dads" for very long, though. It's cute for now. Eventually, they'll demand their men to get the fuck off their asses. It's just the natural way of things. Some dudes are living large right now off their woman's paycheck, and playing "Mommy" to the kids. That won't last. It's embarrassing for both the man and woman.

Father in law: "So...you do nothing for a living? You're like the woman in this relationship?"

Mother in law: "You're supporting this loser? Why didn't you get with Tom? He had a business."

It's not sustainable.

 

[Koya]

Then go speak to real women. The dumb shit you see on the internet isn't representative. If you can't find a girl, it's on you, not because all of them secretly want ::insert incel excuse for not getting laid::.

I don't get why everyone becomes so aggressive when this issue is brought up.

I'm married and have kids, life is good.

That doesn't forbid me to observe in what direction intergender relationships are trending. And from the statistics alone we're in the era where young males from 18 to 26 have never been more alone or more virgin. I find this concerning.

Here's an article talking about the feeling of loneliness in males 18-34 in the US, 25% of them are concerned while it's 18% of women :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/05/21/lonely-young-american-men-poll/

Why is it such a taboo that makes someone an incel if it is brought up ? Can't we realize there's an issue without being automatically antagonistic ?

 

[Koya]

Watching Youtube shorts of little goofballs interviewing random women isnt a good representative of women.

Its like when Jay Leno use to ask people on a street in Burbank "Can you point out America on a map" and they point at Europe and going "Everyone in America is dumb." because of that one person. They asked 50 people prior to that and got one to play their "game" and they put that on the show.

Oh yeah you're perfectly right on that.

Thing is it's not only random videos. You can watch polls, statistics, debates, subreddits discussions. It's a real issue.

The YouTube shorts and tiktok amplifiy it beyond its true range that much is true.

 

[ImCertainOfCirkunov]

He is korean like sexyama. Even if it moved, you're not gay, only human!

Wayyy off topic here, but I was recently watching a Korean reality show called Physical 100. Awesome show, btw. A bunch of physical specimens; olympic athletes, wrestlers, MMA fighters, bodybuilders, crossfitters, etc all competing in grueling physical challenges.

A guy comes on and everyone gets super excited, I looked at him and thought "Is that Sexyama??" But then they said his name was Choo Sung-hoon so I thought it must be a lookalike. 10 mins later I was now sure it had to be him and googled. Never knew they call him Choo Sung-hoon in Korea! He did well, but did not win.

Edit: Stun Gun was on season 2, lots of MMA fighters, actually. I'm expecting Zombie in season 3!

 

[tastaylvr]

Same. It's not even close.

The difference between perception vs lived experience is fascinating.

The hysteria over comedians getting canceled from a few years ago is also telling. Bill Burr was the only one saying it was overblown bullshit. Out of the hundreds of touring comedians doing dozens of shows a year, 1-2 getting booed off shouldn't even register.

Honestly this is life in a nutshell currently

Social media skews people’s perception of what is actually going on. Gyms that ban cameras are also more common I’ve noticed.

The thing with women in the gym though is they are more dedicated than the men. I train in the morning and it’s like 70 percent female all doing Olympic lifts lol

 

[tastaylvr]

Women only care about a mans body count when his bank account aint up to par.

A financially stable man will inevitably choose younger females, not for their financial value or sexual experience (body count) but mainly because she has the ability to raise more children which will protect his future.

A female will throw herself at the dude with the biggest bank account regardless of what a nasty slut he is/was.

Why do you guys act like women are different than men? There are so many poor people married and having kids everyday

You guys are the same people who yell about poor people having kids then make posts saying women only care about the rich dude.

You guys just need friends and develop a good social circle. Reality is different than what you think

 

[Stoic1]

Women still initiating 80% of the divorces? Are many still enjoying the fruits of the patriarchy with the house, kids, child support, and car as a divorce prize?

Guys are waking up.

 

[BlankaPresident]

Wayyy off topic here, but I was recently watching a Korean reality show called Physical 100. Awesome show, btw. A bunch of physical specimens; olympic athletes, wrestlers, MMA fighters, bodybuilders, crossfitters, etc all competing in grueling physical challenges.

A guy comes on and everyone gets super excited, I looked at him and thought "Is that Sexyama??" But then they said his name was Choo Sung-hoon so I thought it must be a lookalike. 10 mins later I was now sure it had to be him and googled. Never knew they call him Choo Sung-hoon in Korea! He did well, but did not win.

Edit: Stun Gun was on season 2, lots of MMA fighters, actually. I'm expecting Zombie in season 3!

Physical is amazing.

 

[Croo67]

Studies show that women are generally retards politically until they have children.

Being responsible for an actual life tends to make them veer away from supporting things like their country being infested with unvetted males and men being allowed into female safe spaces.

 

[SKYNET]

You guys are the same people who yell about poor people having kids then make posts saying women only care about the rich dude.

Why do you guys treat everyone who disagrees with your views as a member of a group? It's always us and them.

You and I could agree on 95% of the issues but because your feelings are hurt by the 5% that are not aligned with your genius-level views, you lash out with emotion and make yourself seem dainty and frail like a can of pringles.

Look up hypergamy, understand it, then get back to me if you have any inclination to challenge it, and also treat me as an individual. Then we can begin to engage in good faith.

Or if those terms aren't agreeable to you and you wish to continue emulating the asshole of a rotting corpse with your replies, then you can go fk yourself.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

The thing with women in the gym though is they are more dedicated than the men. I train in the morning and it’s like 70 percent female all doing Olympic lifts lol

Whoa

The cardio machines are the only ones that are 70% women in any gym I've ever been to