International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VI

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Rholk said:
Aren't you the guy that was implying ISIS was actually Israeli?
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Those are really the best ones! But, even if the ISIS is a pure US and Israel invention and even if the IS is financed by the US and Israel it is still no Americans and Jews who fight there.

The whole IS thing, no matter if the US, Israel, Walt Disney or Stephen King invented it, works solely because you have thousands and thousands of ready to use violence Sunni Muslims who strive to kill infidels and non muslims. So, at the end its not a question about who invented them but purely why something like this can really work? Why are there obviously millions and millions of muslims who in a heartbeat would leave all to got and slaughter innocent people?
 
kflo said:
you know nothing about israel or israeli's or jews.

you seem to learn about jewish people from nazi propaganda and reddit /nazi.
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Who is attacking Iran now?
balkanbomber85 said:
Those are really the best ones! But, even if the ISIS is a pure US and Israel invention and even if the IS is financed by the US and Israel it is still no Americans and Jews who fight there.

The whole IS thing, no matter if the US, Israel, Walt Disney or Stephen King invented it, works solely because you have thousands and thousands of ready to use violence Sunni Muslims who strive to kill infidels and non muslims. So, at the end its not a question about who invented them but purely why something like this can really work? Why are there obviously millions and millions of muslims who in a heartbeat would leave all to got and slaughter innocent people?
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It's both, the ones who created it and gave it a purpose and the reason why. But if you think about it honestly, if they didn't create it then we wouldn't have had so much shit going on. This is like blaming a bomb for going off and killing people instead of blaming the person who for setting it off which he did for a purpose.
 
meauneau said:
There is precedent for the IDF terrorist snipers targeting unarmed civilians, like teenagers, doctors, journalists, women in churches, etc. Let's not pretend like the IDF hasn't done this before or wouldn't do it.
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Agreed, but let's not pretend that Hamas isn't above this sort of thing either.
 
IDF soldiers are sick in the head. I can't count how many dozen videos like that they keep filming and think it's all fun and games

 
Phlog said:
Why's that?
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Because this irrational poster has advocated for the displacement of 2.2 million Gazans out of the Gaza strip since the very first threads on the subject and has avoided responsibility about this every time he's confronted about it.

You'd notice that even in the israeli extremist government the only two people that said such ideas are the extreme of the extreme in Ben Givr and Smotrich.

This "rational poster" has had the exact same idea as Ben Gvir and Smotrich about deporting Palestinians 2 months before them.

That tells you all about what's his agenda, what he really believes in and what his true opinions are. He's literally spouting the same stuff as the Religious Zionist party of Smotrich is.
 

Nearly 600 attacks on healthcare in Gaza and West Bank since war began: WHO​

A mother cares for her daughter at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis in the south of Gaza.

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A mother cares for her daughter at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis in the south of Gaza.

5 January 2024
Hospitals and other vital medical infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank have been attacked nearly 600 times since war erupted in the enclave in response to the Hamas-led terror attack in southern Israel, the UN health agency said on Friday.

Some 613 people have died within health facilities in the Occupied Palestinian Territory since 7 October last year - 606 in Gaza and seven in the West Bank - and more than 770 have been injured, according to latest data on healthcare attacks from the World Health Organization (WHO).
Condemning the continuing fighting and bombardment, WHO spokesperson Christian Lindmeier said that the “ongoing reduction of humanitarian space plus the continuing attacks on healthcare are pushing the people of Gaza to breaking point”.
Children in the Gaza Strip face a deadly triple threat to their lives, as cases of diseases rise, nutrition plummets and the escalation in hostilities approaches its fourteenth week.
Thousands of children have already died from the violence, while living conditions for children continue to rapidly deteriorate, with increasing cases of diarrhoea and rising food poverty among children, raising the risk of mounting child deaths.

Hundreds of facilities hit​

WHO’s online platform covering attacks on healthcare indicated 304 attacks in the Gaza Strip since 7 October. The attacks affected 94 health care facilities (including 26 hospitals damaged out of 36) and 79 ambulances.

In the West Bank, 286 attacks caused seven deaths and 52 injuries. Some 24 health facilities were affected along with 212 ambulances.
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‘Nightmare’ conditions for children: UNICEF​

The head of the UN Children’s Fund UNICEF said in a statement on Friday that children in Gaza “are caught in a nightmare that worsens with every passing day”.
Catherine Russell noted young lives are “increasingly at risk from preventable diseases and lack of food and water. All children and civilians must be protected from violence and have access to basic services and supplies.”
Cases of diarrhoea in children under five rose from 48,000 to 71,000 in just one week starting 17 December, equivalent to 3,200 new cases of diarrhea per day.
She said the significant increase indicated child health in Gaza is “fast deteriorating”. Before the escalation in hostilities, an average of 2,000 cases of diarrhea in children under five were recorded per month.

Relief effort stymied​

A statement released on Thursday by Eri Kaneko, spokesperson for aid coordination office OCHA, echoed repeated concerns by humanitarians that the speed and volume of relief is being continually hampered by conditions on the ground.
“The UN and our humanitarian partners are committed to and continue to do all they can to meet the growing needs in Gaza. However, the operating environment and response capacity continues to be hindered by security risks, mobility constraints, delays and denials”, Ms. Kaneko said.
“Multiple inspections, long queues of trucks and difficulties at crossing points continue to hamper operations. Inside Gaza, aid operations face constant bombardments, with aid workers themselves killed and some convoys having been shot at.
The OCHA official made clear other challenges include poor communications, damaged roads and delays at checkpoints.
“An effective aid operation in Gaza requires security, staff who can work in safety, logistical capacity and the resumption of commercial activity.”

142 UNRWA staff killed​

Meanwhile, the UN agency providing help to Palestinians, UNRWA, said that the total number of staff killed since the beginning of hostilities stands at 142.
The UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees also reported that since 7 October last year, up to 1.9 million people have been displaced across the Gaza Strip, some multiple times.
This number represents over 85 per cent of the population of the Gaza Strip, UNRWA said, adding that families have been forced to move “repeatedly in search of safety”.
Nearly 1.4 million internally displaced persons (IDPs) now shelter in 155 UNRWA facilities across all five governorates of the Gaza Strip.
This figure includes 160,000 in the north and Gaza City according to data last revised shortly after the escalation began.
Another 500,000 people “are in close vicinity of these installations and receiving assistance” from UNRWA, the UN agency said in an update.

IOM launches $69 million appeal​

The UN’s migration agency IOM launched an urgent appeal on Friday for $69 million to support its response to rising and critical humanitarian needs in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
The appeal also covers neighbouring countries affected by the ongoing hostilities in Gaza.
In a statement, IOM said that hundreds of thousands of civilians need aid desperately. But getting help to them continues to be hampered by “long clearance procedures for humanitarian aid trucks at the border (and) the intense ground operation and fighting”.
“Frequent disruption” to communication networks has also prevented humanitarian aid coordination, the UN agency said “along with insecurity, blocked roads and scarcity of fuel”.
Outside Gaza, IOM noted that deteriorating security situation along border areas between Israel and Lebanon has forced some 76,000 people from their homes in southern Lebanon.

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Nearly 600 attacks on healthcare in Gaza and West Bank since war began: WHO

Hospitals and other vital medical infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank have been attacked nearly 600 times since war erupted in the enclave in response to the Hamas-led terror attack in southern Israel, the UN health agency said on Friday.
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British surgeon says Gaza ‘beyond worst thing’ he’s seen, as Jordan’s king warns Israel creating a ‘generation of orphans’​

By Martin Goillandeau, Isa Soares, Catherine Nicholls, Caroline Faraj and Kathleen Magramo, CNN
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Published 12:21 AM EST, Tue January 9, 2024


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A British surgeon who led an emergency medical team in central Gaza says the situation at Al-Aqsa hospital has been “beyond any doubt the worst thing” he’s seen in his career, as Jordan’s monarch warned Israel’s bombardment was creating an “entire generation of orphans.”

“There’s been multiple traumatic amputations of children … horrific burns, the likes of which I’ve never seen before,” Dr. Nick Maynard told CNN’s Isa Soares on Monday after his team found themselves with no choice but to withdraw from the hospital, following increased Israeli military activity.

He said that often “there is no pain relief to give to these patients at all,” underscoring the dire humanitarian situation and lack of medical supplies in the Palestinian enclave following more than three months of Israeli bombardment.


“I think it’s fair to say I’ve never seen anything like this. And I never expect that in my life I would see such an appalling situation,” said Maynard, who was speaking from the Egyptian capital of Cairo on Monday after leaving Gaza.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has repeatedly said it is not targeting civilians. The IDF has also said that Hamas uses civilian infrastructure, including hospitals, as shields for its attacks on Israel, and that attacking those targets are essential as it works to eliminate Hamas from the enclave.

Israel has also said some hospitals are being used as command centers but has provided limited evidence to support that claim.


The IDF’s operations are contentious, with humanitarian organizations warning that a growing number of medical facilities across Gaza are rendered unable to provide basic services.

“I’ve been going to Gaza for nearly 15 years now, I have many friends who work in hospitals there. There are many examples of hospitals being attacked. In the last two days since I left Al-Aqsa hospital, there have been attacks on the hospital,” Maynard told CNN.

The British surgeon had been in Gaza for two weeks, an experience he described as “frightening,” saying his team pulled out as the conflict came closer.

Injured Palestinian people, including children are taken to the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital for a treatment as Israeli attacks continue in Deir al-Balah, Gaza on December 23, 2023.

An injured Palestinian child taken to the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Gaza for treatment on December 23, 2023.

“There was an attack on the intensive care unit,” he said. “We were due to leave it about that time anyways but the following morning, the whole area was taken out of the de-confliction (zone), and we were told by the Israeli Defense Forces that we would not be able to go.”

CNN has reached out to the Israeli military for comment but is yet to hear back.

The doctor said his organization, Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP), and Doctors Without Borders, also known as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), were both operating at the hospital but “both sets of foreign doctors had to leave.”

MAP and the emergency medical team of the International Rescue Committee (IRC) announced their withdrawal from the Al-Aqsa Hospital on Sunday citing increasing Israeli military activity in the area.

As Maynard and his team left Gaza for their safety, he fears that “there are not enough staff to run the hospital in any form at all now.”

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, head of the World Health Organization (WHO), warned Sunday that Al-Aqsa hospital was the “most important hospital remaining” in central Gaza. He demanded that medical staff and their families be protected, adding the facility “must remain functional.”

‘An entire generation of orphans’​

Israel’s bombardment of Gaza began after Hamas launched its brutal October 7 assault in which some 1,200 people, mostly civilians were killed and more than 200 people taken hostage.

Since then, about one out of every 100 people in Gaza has been killed, according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, which generates its data from hospitals in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

At least 23,084 Palestinians have been killed and 58,926 others injured in Gaza since October 7, the Hamas-run Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza said on Monday. The Ministry of Health in Ramallah said that more than 5,300 of the dead are women and more than 9,000 were children.

CNN is not able to independently verify numbers released by the two ministries.

A separate statistic released by the international organization Save the Children said more than 10 children on average have lost one or both of their legs every day in Gaza since October.

Wounded people, including children, are brought to Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital for treatment following the Israeli attacks in Deir al-Balah, Gaza on January 4, 2024.

A wounded teen carried into Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital following Israeli attacks on Deir al-Balah in Gaza on January 4, 2024.

Israel’s military campaign has sparked an international outcry with a growing number of nations backing calls for a ceasefire.

The United States has been pressuring Israeli officials in the last several weeks to do more to protect civilians and implement more strategic strikes but has so far resisted calls for a ceasefire.

As deaths continue to climb, the conflict in Gaza has created “an entire generation of orphans,” King Abdullah II of Jordan said in a speech on Monday.

“More children have died in Gaza than in all other conflicts around the world this past year,” Abdullah said according to the speech which was carried on state media. “Of those who have survived, many have lost one or both parents — an entire generation of orphans.”

Abdullah’s made his remarks during a visit to the Kigali Genocide Memorial in Rwanda’s capital, according to Jordan’s Petra news agency.

“How can indiscriminate aggression and shelling bring peace? How can they guarantee security, when they build on hatred?” Abdullah asked.

“Without a just peace, on the basis of the two-state solution, the world will continue to pay a heavy price for failing to resolve this conflict, and we will never know true peace and stability in the Middle East,” he warned.

The speech in Rwanda came after Abdullah of Jordan met with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken in Amman on Sunday, where the two “agreed to continue close coordination for sustained humanitarian assistance” in Gaza, US State Department Spokesperson Matthew Miller said on Sunday.

Abdullah also warned Blinken of the “catastrophic consequences of the continuing war in Gaza,” according to a palace statement released after their meeting.
 
meauneau said:
There is precedent for the IDF terrorist snipers targeting unarmed civilians, like teenagers, doctors, journalists, women in churches, etc. Let's not pretend like the IDF hasn't done this before or wouldn't do it.
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Journalists... maybe.

As for the others, those are often cases of mistaken identity due to difficulty of decerning militants from the general public. For example the "women in churches" thing... those women were in a church in the middle of the most active warzone in northern Gaza, over a month after an evacuation order. Why?

There's tons of footage of Hamas ubiquitously murdering and brutalizing the bodies of innocents. You won't find evidence like that against the IDF, as it doesn't exist.
 
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fishNjits said:
I think this is way overplayed by a lot.

That said, why the focus on Likud? It accounts for just over 25% of the seats in the Knesset. Israel isn't a two-party country, like the US.

Obviously, it's policies are generally supported by a lot more than Likud voters. Likud doesn't control Israel in the sense that Hamas controls Gaza. It's a democracy where the slight majority of Israelis seem to generally support its policies. It's not like Netanyahu has pulled the wool over everybody's eyes or has coerced the Israeli body politic.

This constant condemnation of Likud like some boogieman is silly. It's like condemning Republicans for something on a bi-partisan vote.

FWIW, the Israeli public is almost evenly split on whether the settlements were a good idea or not.
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"Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty"

Perhaps it's because Likud has historically supported the establishment and expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. They also have had leaders that were antagonistic towards the Palestinians like Shamir, Begin, Sharon (Though he did soften by the end) and of course Bibi. I realize that it's not just Likud, but they are by far the largest and most prominent right wing party in Israeli politics.
 
djacobox372 said:
Journalists... maybe.

As for the others, those are often cases of mistaken identity due to difficulty of decerning militants from the general public. For example the "women in churches" thing... those women were in a church in the middle of the most active warzone in northern Gaza, over a month after an evacuation order. Why?

There's tons of footage of Hamas ubiquitously murdering and brutalizing the bodies of innocents. You won't find evidence like that against the IDF, as it doesn't exist.
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Good, blame the victim. If a woman gets raped it's her fault, she should have stayed at home, right? The Bishop in charge of that church said there were women, children and disabled people there. The Israeli terrorists murdered 2 unarmed women.

Also, nothing justifies snipers murdering unarmed teenagers. Just admit that the difference between Hamas and IDF is the technology they use to kill.
 
Strychnine said:
Agreed, but let's not pretend that Hamas isn't above this sort of thing either.
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Yeah but we are talking about IDF terror attacks on Palestinians which is more likely than Hamas attacks on Palestinians.
 
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