International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VI

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Phlog said:
Gotcha. Someone taken over by a mind virus, spewing it out over everyone they interact with.
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You are not wrong really if i understood your message correctly (english is 3rd language), stuff you talk about acts as one of foundations for western counterinsurgency stuff

Problem lies in the fact that the approach is not doable currently in active war phase, basically there needs to be some level of control of the people and enviroment to start working with it because if you dont then the opposite side has the influence to spread their stuff. And right now enviroment is being shot to shit and theres chaos everywhere so no control.

But this is just me playing couch general, i might be wrong as fuck lol

(I recommend reading accidental guerrilla by david kilcullen, goes in to stuff you talk about in afg and constant struggle over influence in regions west had with taliban)
 
meauneau said:
So you too see Palestinians as not humans?

He means he will not help Israel ethnically cleanse Gaza.

Gaza is the land of the Palestinians and they should not leave their land, which is what Israel wants.
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No, I see Palestinians as human as the next person. While it's true that the Palestinian land IS Palestinian land, you really don't see any M.E. nations saying "Hey, if you want, you can move here. Welcome brothers and sisters."

Don't get me wrong man. I fully support a two-state solution. My point is that, NO ONE is asking the Palestinians to come over because they don't want to import any Hamas extremists, who will inevitably arise if they do because they'll sneak in and use any country they can as a base to strike for their agenda.
 
Strychnine said:
No, I see Palestinians as human as the next person. While it's true that the Palestinian land IS Palestinian land, you really don't see any M.E. nations saying "Hey, if you want, you can move here. Welcome brothers and sisters."

Don't get me wrong man. I fully support a two-state solution. My point is that, NO ONE is asking the Palestinians to come over because they don't want to import any Hamas extremists, who will inevitably arise if they do because they'll sneak in and use any country they can as a base to strike for their agenda.
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But that's not what you said in your post, you portrayed them as undesirable, as if no one would want them because of who they are. They are victims of Israeli oppression. Israel wants them to leave so it can take more land for European Jews to settle there illegally.

Hamas is always the excuse. Whenever someone here mentions Hamas I know they means something wrong is being done and needs to be justified some way. Hamas is always the excuse. Israel terrorists murder 2 unarmed women in a church, but Hamas...
 


They were captured by Hamas. I'm sure Israel tried to make it look like they were innocent civilians.
 
meauneau said:
But that's not what you said in your post, you portrayed them as undesirable, as if no one would want them because of who they are. They are victims of Israeli oppression. Israel wants them to leave so it can take more land for European Jews to settle there illegally.

Hamas is always the excuse. Whenever someone here mentions Hamas I know they means something wrong is being done and needs to be justified some way. Hamas is always the excuse. Israel terrorists murder 2 unarmed women in a church, but Hamas...
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"In other words...

"Naw, sis. We're not importing crazy."


Crazy isn't undesirable, heck I've got crazy in my family, I just don't want them living in my house. Crazy means crazy.

Nations aren't asking them to come over because Hamas extremists would inevitably mix in with the civilian refugees to use any welcoming M.E. nation as a base to strike. I've said time and time again that Israeli annexation and occupation is WRONG.

Israel needs to get out of Gaza and let the Palestinians govern themselves. No one takes a shot at anyone. Palestine does Palestine and Israel does Israel.
 
Strychnine said:
"In other words...

"Naw, sis. We're not importing crazy."


Crazy isn't undesirable, heck I've got crazy in my family, I just don't want them living in my house. Crazy means crazy.

Nations aren't asking them to come over because Hamas extremists would inevitably mix in with the civilian refugees to use any welcoming M.E. nation as a base to strike. I've said time and time again that Israeli annexation and occupation is WRONG.

Israel needs to get out of Gaza and let the Palestinians govern themselves. No one takes a shot at anyone. Palestine does Palestine and Israel does Israel.
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You think calling them all crazy is right? If I said something generalising all Jews I'd get carded.

If Hamas wanted to use another country as a base they would do it now, no need to wait for refugees to leave. Hamas have support outside of Palestine, they can receive weapons from anywhere. But that's just a dumb idea that Hamas would fight Israel from another country. If Hamas left Palestine it would be over and there would be no reason to fight. They fight for their land and their freedom. They are a reaction to Israel, don't forget.
 
kflo said:
Just some israeli’s serving their country.

i’m sure you‘re happy they were captured (If true).
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If they are the kind that target unarmed civilians and celebrate the death of civilians, then I hope they get served justice. Do you believe in justice?
 
meauneau said:
You think calling them all crazy is right? If I said something generalising all Jews I'd get carded.

If Hamas wanted to use another country as a base they would do it now, no need to wait for refugees to leave. Hamas have support outside of Palestine, they can receive weapons from anywhere. But that's just a dumb idea that Hamas would fight Israel from another country. If Hamas left Palestine it would be over and there would be no reason to fight. They fight for their land and their freedom. They are a reaction to Israel, don't forget.
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No, not all.

Just Hamas.
 
Strychnine said:
"In other words...

"Naw, sis. We're not importing crazy."


Crazy isn't undesirable, heck I've got crazy in my family, I just don't want them living in my house. Crazy means crazy.

Nations aren't asking them to come over because Hamas extremists would inevitably mix in with the civilian refugees to use any welcoming M.E. nation as a base to strike. I've said time and time again that Israeli annexation and occupation is WRONG.

Israel needs to get out of Gaza and let the Palestinians govern themselves. No one takes a shot at anyone. Palestine does Palestine and Israel does Israel.
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Israel was out of Gaza. Unfortunately, they still need to protect their people, from attacks coming from Gaza.

Because you see, pals, and their enablers, don’t see Gaza as their home. It’s just temporary until their return. So they keep their refugee tag, passed from generation to generation, with organizations tens of thousands strong, supporting the refugees…..every neighborhood a refugee camp. And all the energy, from their government, towards keeping refugee status, poking at their neighbor, hoping for some murders along the way, plotting for how they can take back all the land. Perpetuated by their friends and neighbors who don’t want to look in the mirror or think about how they can play a positive role to end the cycle.
 
meauneau said:
If they are the kind that target unarmed civilians and celebrate the death of civilians, then I hope they get served justice. Do you believe in justice?
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They almost certainly are not that kind.

would you be happy anyway?
 
Rholk said:
And another one:

Israel preparing for the worst:
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Let Hezbollah find out. Genuinely. The rest of Lebanon is sound as fuck in my eyes. It's just these Jihadi "warriors" at the border that could cause devastation to the entire multicultural country.

meauneau said:


They were captured by Hamas. I'm sure Israel tried to make it look like they were innocent civilians.
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You definitely had a wank over it. Fair enough I guess.

meauneau said:
You think calling them all crazy is right? If I said something generalising all Jews I'd get carded.

If Hamas wanted to use another country as a base they would do it now, no need to wait for refugees to leave. Hamas have support outside of Palestine, they can receive weapons from anywhere. But that's just a dumb idea that Hamas would fight Israel from another country. If Hamas left Palestine it would be over and there would be no reason to fight. They fight for their land and their freedom. They are a reaction to Israel, don't forget.
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Hamas can't use another country, because every Arab country around don't want the Palestinians because they know it brings trouble. Point of reference - during the Syria horribilities, how many neighbouring countries and rich Arabic states took the refugees? Nah, Eastern Europe and UK for you lads. Don't want that smoke on our doorsteps.
 
The_Renaissance said:
Let Hezbollah find out. Genuinely. The rest of Lebanon is sound as fuck in my eyes. It's just these Jihadi "warriors" at the border that could cause devastation to the entire multicultural country.



You definitely had a wank over it. Fair enough I guess.



Hamas can't use another country, because every Arab country around don't want the Palestinians because they know it brings trouble. Point of reference - during the Syria horribilities, how many neighbouring countries and rich Arabic states took the refugees? Nah, Eastern Europe and UK for you lads. Don't want that smoke on our doorsteps.
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Not true mate. Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey, Iraq, Egypt.....All of them took Syrian refugees

But yeah, Egypt's biggest reason for not wanting Gazans is Hamas. They were pretty plain about that while saying "Also, we don;t want to help cleanse Gaza", but Sisi was crystal clear. Fuck Hamas lol
 
Halifax said:
Not true mate. Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey, Iraq, Egypt.....All of them took Syrian refugees

But yeah, Egypt's biggest reason for not wanting Gazans is Hamas. They were pretty plain about that while saying "Also, we don;t want to help cleanse Gaza", but Sisi was crystal clear. Fuck Hamas lol
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I stand corrected sorry!
 
meauneau said:
You think calling them all crazy is right? If I said something generalising all Jews I'd get carded.

If Hamas wanted to use another country as a base they would do it now, no need to wait for refugees to leave. Hamas have support outside of Palestine, they can receive weapons from anywhere. But that's just a dumb idea that Hamas would fight Israel from another country. If Hamas left Palestine it would be over and there would be no reason to fight. They fight for their land and their freedom. They are a reaction to Israel, don't forget.
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At least you now said it, you just consider Hamas "freedom fighters", trying to win their land and freedom. The only "terrorists" to you are the IDF.


Just ignore their own charter, their own words! They don't want Israel wiped off the map! If Israel withdraws and lets Palestine be Palestine, Hamas will spend their days knitting blankets for orphaned Jewish children instead of launching rockets. Of course!
 
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