International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VI

[HereticBD]

Not trying to make light of their plight. They are somewhat safe in NY and LA. If I wanted to play victim Olympics then I would probably say they are safer than old Asian people in terms of violence against them. They got their own volunteer police force in some of their enclaves. The big change is probably media perception and public support for the opposition. In the past there were always free Palestine protests in the major cities but it didn't receive much coverage. Regardless of how safe I think they are; in the end it's their perception of the current situation and if they feel unsafe then it's justified.

Thing is, they've played this game before. They know how fragile their standing in the world is. The only thing stopping the antisemitic pieces of shit from going ham, are the words(and policies) of world leaders. Muslims know this as well. It doesn't take much to turn criticism into action. The Jews are watching this shit slowly evolve. Today it's "Free Palestine", and tomorrow it's "Fuck the Jews!", and spineless politicians march to the drum of votes.

They have a right to be a bit paranoid.

 

[Samjj]

It's the same exact time period. The Japanese occupied and tried to ethnically cleanse Koreans since 1905 and it only got worse during WW2 with the Nazi influence. The Japanese had their own version of Dr. Josef Mengele doing inhuman experiments. They also did the same shit to the Chinese during and a bit before WW2.

It only ended after they were defeated in WW2. Mind you, the Nazis surrendered before the Japanese. So it was even a bit longer.

Reading the Wikipedia article on the Japanese occupation of Korea it looks like we're talking about 20-25,000 killed in direct acts of ethnically motivated violence.
Would you mind sourcing a link with closer to the numbers that you cited?

 

[Hog-train]

Would you mind sourcing a link with this information? Frankly I am not familiar with Korean ethnic cleansing campaign that lasted between 1905 - 1950.

Korea under Japanese rule - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

HISTORY

The HISTORY Channel - Geschichte erleben! The HISTORY Channel ist der deutschsprachige Pay-TV-Sender für spannende Dokumentationen und macht die Faszination von Menschen und Ereignissen täglich greifbar!

www.history.com

Then isolated massacres like:

Kantō Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Japan also absolutely brutalized millions and millions of Chinese people. About 250,000 Chinese by biological experimentation and biological warfare. But Asian deaths are often considered worthless compared to European or American deaths, so they are not extensively covered in school.

 

[Samjj]

Korea under Japanese rule - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

HISTORY

The HISTORY Channel - Geschichte erleben! The HISTORY Channel ist der deutschsprachige Pay-TV-Sender für spannende Dokumentationen und macht die Faszination von Menschen und Ereignissen täglich greifbar!

www.history.com

Then isolated massacres like:

Kantō Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Japan also absolutely brutalized millions and millions of Chinese people. About 250,000 Chinese by biological experimentation and biological warfare. But Asian deaths are often considered worthless compared to European or American deaths, so they are not extensively covered in school.

ya, the numbers they cite here between those massacres is something around 25,000 killed.
If that's the case, I think we're moving further away from a "good" holocaust comparison.

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We're derailing a little bit feel free to link about the Japanese experimentation on Chinese.

 

[Hog-train]

ya, the numbers they cite here between those massacres is something around 25,000 killed.
If that's the case, I think we're moving further away from a "good" holocaust comparison.

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We're derailing a little bit feel free to link about the Japanese experimentation on Chinese.

That's one incident. There are others like the Rape of Nanking. Japan killed more people in China alone than the Holocaust.

Nanjing Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And human experimentation.

You can find more gruesome pics on 4chan and reddit but I can't post that here.

Japanese doctors' human experiments

Unit 731 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Samjj]

That's one incident. There are others like the Rape of Nanking. Japan killed more people in China alone than the Holocaust.

Nanjing Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And human experimentation.

You can find more gruesome pics on 4chan and reddit but I can't post that here.

Japanese doctors' human experiments

Unit 731 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No, 25,000 is the summation of the list of massacres that the Wiki article links.
The first massacre you linked cited 6,000 killed.

and we weren't talking about "Asian" casualties in WW2. We were talking specifically about the experience of a Korean American vs. a Jewish American in light of increasing racism and the responses given the historic oppressions of the respective peoples.

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Unit 731 is disgusting, Jesus.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

This thread went fucking nuts.

I thought this thread was about the extended duration of mass murder of citizens in Gaza following mass murder of citizens in Israel.

For me, the focus remains the same. Ceasefire now.

Won't happen though.

Not enough blood has been shed for Netanyahu. More must die. Thousands more. Possibly tens of thousands more.

Don't @ me with 'what other choice do they have' sociopathy.

 

[freakroor]

This thread went fucking nuts.

I thought this thread was about the extended duration of mass murder of citizens in Gaza following mass murder of citizens in Israel.

For me, the focus remains the same. Ceasefire now.

Won't happen though.

Not enough blood has been shed for Netanyahu. More must die. Thousands more. Possibly tens of thousands more.

Don't @ me with 'what other choice do they have' sociopathy.

does ceasefire include attacks on israel? what is the likelihood of arabs stopping the rocket launches and terrorism?

 

[Deleted member 585708]

does ceasefire include attacks on israel? what is the likelihood of arabs stopping the rockets and terrorist attacks forever?

Is America immune forever from terrorist attacks?

They had a 'war on terror', after all.

Nobody is immune forever, maybe try setting a more realistic expectation.

The only way for Israel to be immune forever is to wipe every other person on the planet out.

 

[freakroor]

Nobody is immune forever, maybe try setting a more realistic expectation.

so ceasefire doesnt include attacks by arabs against israel, only israel against arabs?

 

[Koya]

so ceasefire doesnt include attacks by arabs against israel, only israel against arabs?

You should write a book on gaslighting. You've got it

 

[Deleted member 585708]

so ceasefire doesnt include attacks by arabs against israel, only israel against arabs?

What question are you asking, since you seem to have already ditched the initial one that you asked?

A full and total ceasefire should be negotiated.

If one side violates the ceasefire, of course an appropriate retaliation would be permitted.

This is standard stuff, do you think we're mapping out entirely new territory or something?

 

[freakroor]

What question are you asking, since you seem to have already ditched the initial one that you asked?

A full and total ceasefire should be negotiated.

If one side violates the ceasefire, of course an appropriate retaliation would be permitted.

This is standard stuff, do you think we're mapping out entirely new territory or something?

wasnt there some kind of ceasefire in effect before october 7th? whose right is it to decide what retaliations are permitted?

 

[Deleted member 585708]

wasnt there some kind of ceasefire in effect on october 7th

How long did it last?

 

[freakroor]

How long did it last?

should they try again?

 

[Koya]

 

[Koya]

How long did it last?

The guy that is addressing you literally never chimes in the thread except to gaslight people and nitpick everytime someone asks for a ceasefire

 

[Deleted member 585708]

should they try again?

Unfortunately as @Koya says, you're not really contributing anything except an endless series of quick, easy, and nonsensical questions/excuses for avoiding a ceasefire.

Israel won't ever be immune to terrorist attacks, nowhere is.
Israel has managed to live in 'ceasefires' for extended periods, and those periods are infinitely better than what is happening now, so a return to that is what we should all be aiming for.
The delusion that Israel can kill its way to peace is just that: a delusion.

There will always be risk. There is currently a serious risk of international escalation, which would take an already horrific situation to a whole new level entirely and further damages the security of Israel.

A ceasefire isn't just the best thing that can happen for Palestinians, it's also the best thing that can happen for the Middle East period.

 

[freakroor]

Israel won't ever be immune to terrorist attacks, nowhere is.

I thought hamas arent terrorists though, right?

 

[Deleted member 585708]

I thought hamas arent terrorists though, right?

Another pointless strawman. I, of course, have never said Hamas aren't terrorists, and don't need to go through a tedious checklist of irrelevant questions.

Do you have thoughts on a full and permanent ceasefire (until someone breaks it, of course), which is what you and I are discussing, but you're trying to avoid for some reason?