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You’re utterly dishonest, really.
The majority of Palestinians living in the WB and also Gaza have favored Hamas for years. This “manipulated” polling data is widely available and has been for a long time prior to Oct 7th. Claiming that the majority of the Palestinian populace supported Hamas (I don’t know what the reality is now in Gaza but their support remains strong in the WB) is a widely known fact. You pretending that making this claim is the same as you saying that a large portion of Israelis support the systematic extermination of Palestinians is just debate perverty and twisting of reality. It’s not based in anything quantifiable beyond your magical thinking and mind reading of Israeli society.
You're not only dishonest - you're hypocritical.
All this "well known" information on what Palestinians think and feel is based on polls. You're painting almost ALL Palestinians motivations based on that.
Yet you have a problem with me saying a subset of Israelis wouldn't mind all the Palestinians either a. dead or b. completely ethnically cleansed and expelled.
I'm basing this on them REPEATEDLY voting in the most right wing faction of Israeli politics - the Likud party. They keep voting in Netanyahu. And a lot of Israeli government officials have numerous instances of using genocidal language.
Yet you want to completely discount that as a fringe. If they're so fringe, why do they keep being voted in and hold important government positions?
Unlike the vast majority of Palestinians - who HAVEN'T voted for Hamas because the last election was in 2006.
So who is more responsible? People who consistently vote in a far right government that is currently responsible for war crimes? Or a populace that is 50% children and haven't voted for anyone?
As per the labeling of Hamas propaganda.
I find it really fucking strange that you are defending this point. The video that you posted was written/recorded/edited/ and released by Hamas. It even has their watermark intro edited in the video. Do you still stand by your description that it was an “interesting interview?”
You keep doing this. I can't read your mind based on a vague reference. WTF video are you talking about? I've posted probably over a hundred times in this thread. Link whatever post you're talking about otherwise I have zero frame of reference.
As for "propaganda." I can name "propaganda" you've posted - such as Abraham Wyner's bullshit attempt to minimize the number of Gazan casualties. That's debunked and obvious propaganda.
And to the last point, no I really didn’t give a shit about the article. If you were actually honest about any interaction ever on here you would recall that my criticism to you was based on your gaslighting of all allegations of antisemitism. Another instance in which you used an ad asburdum to further imply all accusations of antisemitism are bullshit. I brought up the historian (if you remember his hame or not that’s your problem) in this context who you have repeatedly posted links recommending his work.
WTF does this gibberish even mean. "Gaslighting of allegations of anti-semitism" - lol what.
Then you bring up some mysterious historian which you won't name, yet I must remember or it's my fault - LMAO.
So you can't remember, but I have to know WTF you're talking about. Ok grandpa.
The “non sequitur” criticism was aimed to suggest to you that you aren’t a good judge of what is actually antisemitic given you posted endorsements for a historian who has now been revealed as a holocaust denier. I said as much in that interaction and elaborated very clearly on that point. You claiming that “I didn’t like the article” that you posted is not even remotely close to representing the reality of that interaction and is just another example of you being dishonest.
Again - Who TF are you talking about? Quote the post you're talking about. I've posted a lot in this thread.
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