International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

[Hog-train]

I thought you work in advertising and are supposed to understand how this stuff works?

Are you going to admit that you either lied or didn’t bother reading the whole post that you vehemently denied making?

All I did was post a Twitter entry with minimal explanation. Everything in the Twitter post was true without omission.

You still haven't explained where I supposedly lied.

Noa corroborated aspects of the video after her release. This does not mean the video is not propaganda. We can agree that the video was scripted, recorded, and released by Hamas, correct ?​

The Twitter post was mainly about her correcting the media's misreporting some aspects of her captivity. On top of that, it was after her media interviews and testifying at the G7 meeting in Tokyo.

If something is clearly labeled, how TF is it propaganda.

In the video she specifically describes Al Qassam Brigades as “saving her” against Israeli airstrikes. The video is clearly an attempt by Hamas to send a message to influence Israel (and maybe the rest of world) as to present them in some humanitarian light (they saved her from the Israeli war machine!) and influence the consciousness of the war effort.

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What difference does any of this make? The interview below the contents of the post is clearly labeled that it was an interview before her release. Literally everything is true there.

What I think is real propaganda is that Abraham Wyner Tablet article you posted - where they were deceptively trying to downplay Gazan civilian casualties.

THAT is propaganda to me.

 

[LeBron]

Just stating lies as fact does not prove you correct.

You aren't debating. You are just repeatedly saying you are correct despite your words betraying you.

Interesting how racists like you use terms like zionist to try and "other" groups of people because they don't also indulge in your racist views.

If believing Israel has a right to exist and their people have a right to safety makes someone a zionist, I am unsure why you use it like an insult.

Hell, I got a temporary ban from this thread for pointing out many in here who blame the Jews for everything are the same as nazis. You are doing the same trying to use zionist as a pejorative term yet admin let you persist? @Strychnine

If I say I hate the color blue you’ll call me an anti-Semite because it’s on the Israeli flag. That’s how ridiculous y’all have gotten.

I believe I should live in a mansion, maybe I’ll go takeover some rich persons house and kick them out.

 

[SammyPops]

The gaslighting and mental gymnastics is bizarre

You do know who the major targets of the nazis were right? They too liked to blame Israel for everything including their own failings. Something that seems to resonate strongly with you

Yes- the zionists colonizers are the true terrorists, and the zionist narrative has collapsed. The zionist elite control of the west's ME policies will fall next .... in time.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Exactly. So you prefer that to the pagers that hit 3k plus targets with like one person as collateral damage. Got it

What a pathetic lack of acknowledgement of what I just posted. Israel is behaving like fucking Skynet, using Artificial Intelligence and robots to slaughter tens of thousands of civilians.

If you are so in favor of them using terrorist tactics like they did in Lebanon, why wasn't that technology employed in Gaza? Shit, they could have put a bomb in one of those suitcases of cash they were helping send straight to Hamas all these years.

Why with all this advanced technology were they unable to prevent 10/7, especially when we KNOW that they KNEW the attack was coming with details and specifics?

It's because this has been the plan all along. Israels goal has never been about removing Hamas from Gaza, it has been to remove Palestinians from Gaza and to take that region for themselves, as they are doing in the West Bank as well under the guise of "settlers" that they encourage and support.

 

[Snubnoze707]

All I did was post a Twitter entry with minimal explanation. Everything in the Twitter post was true without omission.

You still haven't explained where I supposedly lied.



The Twitter post was mainly about her correcting the media's misreporting some aspects of her captivity. On top of that, it was after her media interviews and testifying at the G7 meeting in Tokyo.

If something is clearly labeled, how TF is it propaganda.





What difference does any of this make? The interview below the contents of the post is clearly labeled that it was an interview before her release. Literally everything is true there.

What I think is real propaganda is that Abraham Wyner Tablet article you posted - where they were deceptively trying to downplay Gazan civilian casualties.

THAT is propaganda to me.

They don't give a fuck. I tried to present Noa's story here when she first put it out and they all ignored it.

I had been arguing for months that hostages were at great risk of getting blown up by Israel.

In Noa's "rescue", they manage to blow up the two other hostages she was with in two separate attacks directed right at them. Killed a shit load of Palestinian civilians in the process. All the while having the most advanced military technology in the world.

 

[Hog-train]

They don't give a fuck. I tried to present Noa's story here when she first put it out and they all ignored it.

I had been arguing for months that hostages were at great risk of getting blown up by Israel.

In Noa's "rescue", they manage to blow up the two other hostages she was with in two separate attacks directed right at them. Killed a shit load of Palestinian civilians in the process. All the while having the most advanced military technology in the world.

They only use pinpoint accuracy you anti-Semitic liar.

 

[Snubnoze707]

A laugh emoji with no rebuttal is an admittance of defeat, and a boost in my reaction score. Keep it up guys, I'm trying to get to .500 I'm almost there.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

I thought you work in advertising and are supposed to understand how this stuff works?

Are you going to admit that you either lied or didn’t bother reading the whole post that you vehemently denied making?

​

Noa corroborated aspects of the video after her release. This does not mean the video is not propaganda. We can agree that the video was scripted, recorded, and released by Hamas, correct ?

In the video she specifically describes Al Qassam Brigades as “saving her” against Israeli airstrikes. The video is clearly an attempt by Hamas to send a message to influence Israel (and maybe the rest of world) as to present them in some humanitarian light (they saved her from the Israeli war machine!) and influence the consciousness of the war effort.

​

If there's one thing I know about people who work in advertising, it's that they are natural born liars.

But don't take my word for it. Here's a book written by an ex-advertising executive that explains the deceptiveness of the industry he worked in:

Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Just stating lies as fact does not prove you correct.

You aren't debating. You are just repeatedly saying you are correct despite your words betraying you.

Interesting how racists like you use terms like zionist to try and "other" groups of people because they don't also indulge in your racist views.

If believing Israel has a right to exist and their people have a right to safety makes someone a zionist, I am unsure why you use it like an insult.

Hell, I got a temporary ban from this thread for pointing out many in here who blame the Jews for everything are the same as nazis. You are doing the same trying to use zionist as a pejorative term yet admin let you persist? @Strychnine

If you go back several pages in this thread, you'll see me expose this jackass masquerading as a Jew and weaponizing his supposed Jewishness to make the case against Zionism. This motherfucker doesn't know the difference between Yiddish and Hebrew.

 

[Rholk]

A laugh emoji with no rebuttal is an admittance of defeat, and a boost in my reaction score. Keep it up guys, I'm trying to get to .500 I'm almost there.

as long as you keep posting laughable shit, i'm happy to help

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

A laugh emoji with no rebuttal is an admittance of defeat, and a boost in my reaction score. Keep it up guys, I'm trying to get to .500 I'm almost there.

You give a shit about how many reactions you got? What a fucking dork. Even if you had a 3:1 ratio of likes to posts, it still wouldn't change the fact that you're a dishonest, coldhearted jackass who simps for terrorists.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Very weak response.

Now all Palestinians are supporters of terrorism? Even when the vast majority never voted for Hamas and 50% are children?

Same shit hypocrite.

Look who's talking. Jesus Fucking Christ. Shake my head. Sigh.

And the award for the Most Delusional Tone-Deaf Imbecile of the Thread goes to...

 

[Samjj]

What difference does any of this make? The interview below the contents of the post is clearly labeled that it was an interview before her release. Literally everything is true there.

What I think is real propaganda is that Abraham Wyner Tablet article you posted - where they were deceptively trying to downplay Gazan civilian casualties.

THAT is propaganda to me.

All I can say is that it takes a twisted mind to post a video of a woman in captivity being forced to read a script under duress and then to refer to it as an "interview" without acknowledging it as a piece of propaganda. Yet at the same time, a statistical analysis by an academic critical of Hamas' health ministry reporting offends you. There is clearly something very wrong with you.

 

[Blayt7hh]

What a pathetic lack of acknowledgement of what I just posted. Israel is behaving like fucking Skynet, using Artificial Intelligence and robots to slaughter tens of thousands of civilians.

If you are so in favor of them using terrorist tactics like they did in Lebanon, why wasn't that technology employed in Gaza? Shit, they could have put a bomb in one of those suitcases of cash they were helping send straight to Hamas all these years.

Why with all this advanced technology were they unable to prevent 10/7, especially when we KNOW that they KNEW the attack was coming with details and specifics?

It's because this has been the plan all along. Israels goal has never been about removing Hamas from Gaza, it has been to remove Palestinians from Gaza and to take that region for themselves, as they are doing in the West Bank as well under the guise of "settlers" that they encourage and support.

Your question in the second paragraph is nonsense. They took advantage of an opportunity. But that was bad in your book too even though it drastically reduced collateral damage. Thus proving that you don’t care about civilian lives at all and this was never about civilian lives for you to begin with.

See what I did there?

 

[Strychnine]

Nearly 60 and still a child. Yes that's you and your life.

 

[Koya]

Bagging about a military career and being a manchild. Doesn't add up.

 

[SammyPops]

as long as you keep posting laughable shit, i'm happy to help

Dont worry bro, the IGF genocide in gaza, cleansing in the WB, and terrorist attacks in Lebanon will give you lots to laugh at.

 

[Hog-train]

All I can say is that it takes a twisted mind to post a video of a woman in captivity being forced to read a script under duress and then to refer to it as an "interview" without acknowledging it as a piece of propaganda.

Spare me your fake BS moralistic pontificating. You only want to nitpick because you don't like what she's saying. That the Israeli media got it wrong.

FYI the first thing shown on that Twitter post were her statements and that's what I was referring to. You can't refute the veracity of what is being said, so you resort to attacking the messenger with some stupid morality argument.

Yet at the same time, a statistical analysis by an academic critical of Hamas' health ministry reporting offends you. There is clearly something very wrong with you.

That statistical analysis was complete bullshit and thoroughly debunked. And not even some "advanced" statistical analysis.

It used junior high school level math to sloppily chart the numbers of daily deaths over 16 days, when we have data for 6 months by then. Then he said "oh the line is too straight so it must be fake." That's the crux of Wyner's retarded argument.

He was relying on people not really paying attention to the details and just that a "statistician" debunked the Gaza casualty figures and the media running with the story.

That is the perfect example of propaganda.

Notice no one is disputing the number of deaths these days. Because it's obvious now.

Look who's talking. Jesus Fucking Christ. Shake my head. Sigh.

And the award for the Most Delusional Tone-Deaf Imbecile of the Thread goes to...

You're so butthurt you have to lash out emotionally, don't you?

Add something to the discussion or debate. Otherwise I'm not replying to this useless BS.

 

[Strychnine]

Bagging about a military career and being a manchild. Doesn't add up.

Oh, I never bragged about it.

I joined at 17 (mama had to sign me in) in 1987 and I turned 18 in basic. The USAF was good to me, and it sure beat the heck out of abject poverty so, I decided to stay. I retired at a fairly young-ish age and with my pension and not living beyond my means, I can do what I choose.

No boss necessary.

But that's just me.

 

[SammyPops]

Your question in the second paragraph is nonsense. They took advantage of an opportunity. But that was bad in your book too even though it drastically reduced collateral damage. Thus proving that you don’t care about civilian lives at all and this was never about civilian lives for you to begin with.

See what I did there?

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