International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

[filthybliss]

As always you never say those added 4 words "as a Jewish state". Because while Nazis sees not having an ethno state as destruction of a nation you know damm well most other people see destruction of a nation as physical destruction so you're being all deceptive about that.

Hmm, do you share this frustration with the rest of the Middle East? Israel has had 100 Arabs as leaders in their govt. since its conception so if they were trying to create some sort of Jewish Supremacy State, they suck at it.

 

[Samjj]

Yet you do the same exact shit and paint all Palestinians with the same brush - "they're all savage animals. All of them want the complete destruction of Israel."


You often just resort to insults or go on complete unrelated tangents instead of actually addressing whatever story or facts I bring up.

That automatically tells me you have no answer to it. You just don't like what I said, but can't refute it - so you have to resort to pettiness.

quote me motherfucker, now you're just resorting to completely lying. Show me where I remotely stated that Palestinians are all savage animals that want the complete destruction of Israel. Really a cowardly lie from you but I wouldn't expect any less.

as per "refuting" your retarded statements - you make dumb inflammatory overarching statements which you can't even support. why do I need to refute which doesn't stand on its own?

but yes, I do think you are a scumbag for posting Hamas propaganda and labeling it as interesting and I don't think that makes me petty.

 

[filthybliss]

I thought there were forum rules regarding the celebration of victims of violence?

Are you really clutching pearls over the deaths of Hezbollah Terrorist Leaders? Gosh, you are too deep into being contrarian, your brain is turning mush.

 

[ferrisjso]

Are you really clutching pearls over the deaths of Hezbollah Terrorist Leaders? Gosh, you are too deep into being contrarian, your brains turning mush.

You know not everyone agrees that Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorists and not everyone wants to see them dead right?

 

[kflo]

You know not everyone agrees that Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorists and not everyone wants to see them dead right?

oh, we're all well aware of that............

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

quote me motherfucker, now you're just resorting to completely lying.

as per "refuting" your retarded statements - you make dumb inflammatory overarching statements which you can't even support. why do I need to refute which doesn't stand on its own?

but yes, I do think you are a scumbag for posting Hamas propaganda and labeling it as interesting and I don't think that makes me petty.

"Source: Trust me bro. Stop deflecting. Now you're moving the goal posts. Did I ever tell you about the time I was killing it when I was gyrating my half naked body in front of a screaming gay audience to Right Said Fred's I'm Too Sexy?"

 

[filthybliss]

You know not everyone agrees that Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorists and not everyone wants to see them dead right?

That’s easy to say when you are spewing champagne socialist contrarian talking points out west. If you are a woman or a lgbtq person that has been under their wrath. You wouldn’t be crying over your government officials deaths that have been oppressing you.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Are you really clutching pearls over the deaths of Hezbollah Terrorist Leaders? Gosh, you are too deep into being contrarian, your brains turning mush.

Would it be OK for me to celebrate the deaths of IDF soldiers, who are terrorists?

 

[Hog-train]

quote me motherfucker, now you're just resorting to completely lying. Show me where I remotely stated that Palestinians are all savage animals that want the complete destruction of Israel. Really a cowardly lie from you but I wouldn't expect any less.

You clearly painted most Palestinians as being for Hama's terrorist attacks several times. You're alluding to the Palestinian populace as supporting the genocide of Jews based on polling.

I don't mean you literally stated verbatim they're savage animals, but calling for genocide of anyone is the same exact shit. You're a savage if you advocate for genocide.

So it's completely hypocritical. Because on one hand, you're labeling all the Palestinian's beliefs - but completely discounting the actual statements of Israeli officials who have political power. And who have been voted in by Israeli people.

But in the same breath we say that the majority of the Palestinian people support Hamas and their actions, so how do you separate those?

I mean, that poll is deeply ironic.
A peace agreement is in reality a euphemism for a return to Mandate borders.
If you would specify “a two state solution”, I am sure those numbers would be significantly skewed.
75% Support Hamas, whose stated purpose is the genocide of Jews and establishment of an Islamic Caliphate. Their “peaceful” solution comes after a lot of blood.

Most Palestinians currently support what Hamas did on Oct 7th and celebrated in elation the attack. The division is not so clear.

Advocates of settlement expansion do so in claiming that there is no real partner for a peaceful solution. Widespread support of Palestinians for the attacks on Oct 7th support this claim.

There is cyclic causality on both sides
Palestinians -“They are stealing our land, lets kill them!”
Israel “We already gave them back their land (withdrawal from Sinai desert, Gaza withdrawal) and they still want to kill us, so why should we cede more land?”

as per "refuting" your retarded statements - you make dumb inflammatory overarching statements which you can't even support. why do I need to refute which doesn't stand on its own?

but yes, I do think you are a scumbag for posting Hamas propaganda and labeling it as interesting and I don't think that makes me petty.

You falsely label things as "Hamas propaganda" without actually refuting anything.

In our last exchange, you didn't like me talking about UK arms shipments to Israel. So you went on some complete non-sequitur talking about a random Tucker Carlson guest I never heard about.

"Source: Trust me bro. Stop deflecting. Now you're moving the goal posts. Did I ever tell you about the time I was killing it when I was gyrating my half naked body in front of a screaming gay audience to Right Said Fred's I'm Too Sexy?"

Oh look. Butthurt Chad is jumping in again with another useless post because "feelings hurt."

Why don't you make actual points or post a story.

 

[Samjj]

You clearly painted most Palestinians as being for Hama's terrorist attacks several times. You're alluding to the Palestinian populace as supporting the genocide of Jews.

I don't mean you literally stated verbatim they're savage animals, but calling for genocide of anyone is the same exact shit. You're a savage if you advocate for genocide.

So you lied.

Yes, we were discussing polling data which showed widespread support amongst Palestinians for the Oct 7th attacks and Hamas generally.

So it's completely hypocritical. Because on one hand, you're labeling all the Palestinians - but completely discounting the actual statements of Israeli officials who have political power.



You falsely label things as "Hamas propaganda" without actually refuting anything.

In our last exchange, you didn't like me talking about UK arms shipments to Israel. So you went on some complete non-sequitur talking about a random Tucker Carlson guest I never heard about.


Oh look. Butthurt Chad is jumping in again with another useless post because "feelings hurt."

Why don't you make actual points or post a story.

You dishonest boy.

You posted a scripted video recorded by Hamas of a hostage in Hamas captivity which was released directly by Hamas and you labeled it as an "interesting interview". There is nothing ambiguous about calling it Hamas propaganda. Your attempt to deny and deflect from that are laughable.


Yes, I discussed widespread public support of Hamas in general by the Palestinian people and specifically widespread support of the actions of Oct 7th as being problematic for a peaceful solution.

Do you not think that the actions taken by Hamas on Oct 7th were genocidal in nature? Do you not think Hamas advocates for genocide against Jews - openly?
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The Tucker Carlson guest was the source that Dave Smith always cites and you have posted quite a few Dave Smith videos. So technically, yes you posted a source which cites and directly recommends that "historian" but you never linked to him directly.

 

[Motivated BJ Penn]

Says the guy who gave a laughing emoji to the news of the Druze children dying in the rocket attack by Hezbollah.



Says the gringo colonizer living in South America who rhetorically asked if it was alright if you moved back to Africa as a settler colonialist.

Hey listen, dude. If you could transform any one of those African countries into a highly developed (HDI > .90) and democratic nation, they'll most likely welcome you back with open arms. But given your intelligence (or lack thereof), we ain't seeing shit, so shut the fuck up.

Hey Chump Thundercuck, Im not a gringo, Im actually indigenous to the land.

Funny you talk about intelligence but add zero to the discussion, maybe its you who needs to shut your bitch ass up?

 

[filthybliss]

Says the gringo colonizer living in South America who rhetorically asked if it was alright if you moved back to Africa as a settler colonialist.

Hey listen, dude. If you could transform any one of those African countries into a highly developed (HDI > .90) and democratic nation, they'll most likely welcome you back with open arms. But given your intelligence (or lack thereof), we ain't seeing shit, so shut the fuck up.

Wait what…so because other countries were colonized, it should be fair game for Israel to expand into the West Bank and North Gaza?

That’s pretty retarded logic….An eye for a ball sack is not really going to make the world a better place.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Would it be OK for me to celebrate the deaths of IDF soldiers, who are terrorists?

Were you under the impression you were being subtle and we weren't aware that's how you and a bunch of others in this thread felt ?

 

[filthybliss]

Would it be OK for me to celebrate the deaths of IDF soldiers, who are terrorists?

Typical Sleazy arguement by you. “Both sides bad, but I’m going to only go balls deep in defending bigotry towards one side”…but to answer your question, I wouldn’t care if people were celebrating Bibi dying or Ben Gvir.

 

[Hog-train]

So you lied.

Yes, we were discussing polling data which showed widespread support amongst Palestinians for the Oct 7th attacks and Hamas generally.

Where did I lie?

Most polls are politically motivated and easily manipulated. Yet you're automatically labeling Palestinians as supportive of mass genocide.

But when I mention the numerous comments by actual people in power in Israeli government, I'm not allowed to make the assumption that many Israeli people feel that way?

That's completely hypocritical.

You dishonest boy.

You posted a scripted video recorded by Hamas of a hostage in Hamas captivity which was released directly by Hamas and you labeled it as an "interesting interview". There is nothing ambiguous about calling it Hamas propaganda. Your attempt to deny and deflect from that are laughable.

Quote post what you're talking about. Your description is too vague for me to know what the hell you're talking about. You did this a few times already.

Yes, I discussed widespread public support of Hamas in general by the Palestinian people and specifically widespread support of the actions of Oct 7th as being problematic for a peaceful solution.

And I'm discussing genocidal comments made by Israeli politicians, media personalities, military personnel and intellectuals.

You're immediately discounting it. Yet the one single poll painting all Palestinians with a single brush, you take as gospel truth.

Do you not think that the actions taken by Hamas on Oct 7th were genocidal in nature?

If it is, then so are the actions of the IDF.

Do I believe some Hamas members would kill all the Jews if they could? Yes.

Do I believe some Israelis would kill all the Palestinians if they could? Yes.

Do I believe a LOT of Israelis would ethnically cleanse all the Palestinians from all territories if they could? Yes.

Do you not think Hamas advocates for genocide against Jews - openly?

They have in the past.

The Tucker Carlson guest was the source that Dave Smith always cites and you have posted quite a few Dave Smith videos. So technically, yes you posted a source which cites and directly recommends that "historian" but you never linked to him directly.

So I'm supposed make some obscure connection because I posted a Dave Smith video and he cited some Tucker Carlson guest in the past? That's ridiculous. I'm supposed to read your mind?

You posted this complete non-sequitur in response to an article I posted about UK arms shipments. That tells me you simply got irritated by a story I posted, but can't refute it's veracity - so you went on some random attack about something unrelated.

On top of being so vague so I had no idea WTF you're talking about. Learn some communication skills.

Did you see that your favorite historian on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is in hot water for holocaust denial on Tucker’s podcast?

 

[Halifax]

Would it be OK for me to celebrate the deaths of IDF soldiers, who are terrorists?

Nope. I doubt you will find sympathetic ears here. Even most pro Palestine posters hate hamas and hezbollah and acknowledged they are horrific terrorists. The fact that you are even whining about it is funny. Israel keeps winning and its driving you to desperation complaints because we are all cracking beers and saying cheers every few days

 

[Captain Tenneal]

it’s not baiting…y’all are just goofy, you know it and everyone knows it that you are using Zionist as a replacement for Jewish. It bleeds through literally all of your geopolitical discourse all the time even when we are not even talking about Israel.

Like wtf does this even mean….

Have you tried to dig into this at all? You would know what I'm talking about here, and at least be able to offer a differing opinion if you did.

Instead you're playing word games with the term "Zionist". You apparently didn't even know the definition earlier. You're calling us goofy, because you don't understand

Look into B'nai B'rith, look into the ADL, look into Greater Israel. Look into Rabbinical Judaism and Khazar's converting

I implore you to dig into it. I didn't want to believe this shit either

 

[Snubnoze707]

Were you under the impression you were being subtle and we weren't aware that's how you and a bunch of others in this thread felt ?

Quote me celebrating and mocking the deaths of Israeli soldiers.

"I think you mean this, even though you aren't actually saying this."

It's a sleazy tactic. Stick with facts.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Nope. I doubt you will find sympathetic ears here. Even most pro Palestine posters hate hamas and hezbollah and acknowledged they are horrific terrorists. The fact that you are even whining about it is funny. Israel keeps winning and its driving you to desperation complaints because we are all cracking beers and saying cheers every few days

Israel just flooded a sovereign nation with a bunch of hidden small bombs that indiscriminately blew up amongst the populace, including in a small girls face. How you guys cannot perceive that as terrorism, and then go on to cheer it on and laugh about it is sickening, and shows a complete lack of awareness especially when you are trying to point the finger at terrorism. You're pointing at a mirror, bozo.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Typical Sleazy arguement by you. “Both sides bad, but I’m going to only go balls deep in defending bigotry towards one side”…but to answer your question, I wouldn’t care if people were celebrating Bibi dying or Ben Gvir.

How is setting equal standards for discourse in this forum "sleazy"....?

People mocking guys dicks being blown off in a terrorist act should not be acceptable. Did you find it amusing that a small girls face was blown clear off her skull?