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Hey listen, bro. At the risk of sounding like a male chauvinist, your use of whataboutisms and double standards clearly makes you the woman in this situation. You argue like my ex-girlfriends.

Yeah, I said it. At least I don't condone rape - no matter what their beauty levels are.
 
Yep calling bullshit.

Learn the history before you keep talking out of your ass.

The money was never even meant for food or medicine or anything like that. It was for the salaries of Hamas government workers.

The Qatari payments started in response to the Palestinian Authority cutting the government salaries in Gaza. AKA Hamas salaries.
lol at you talking about learning history with this nonsense. qatar payments have been coming into gaza for much longer than that (from before israel was involved). again, i gave you a quote from 2015....

and you’ll ignore the BBC saying:

Since 2018, Israeli governments have allowed Qatar to pay the wages of tens of thousands of civil servants in Gaza's Hamas-run government, financially support the poorest families, and fund fuel deliveries for the territory's sole power plant. Qatar insists the funding was only for civilian and humanitarian purposes.

you’ll ignore Qatar noting:

You don't like them, don't like them. But they control the country, you know,"
They were on the verge of collapse and RELIED ON the PLA for their salaries. The PLA cut their salaries so Qatar and Israel stepped in to keep them afloat.



Nah I'm just on the side of not funding terrorists.

You seem to be on the side of cash payments to Hamas. LOL
here i'll again quote qatar:

You don't like them, don't like them. But they control the country, you know,"

sucks that gaza voted in favor of terrorists, but they did.....
You're saying it was a good idea to help Hamas for years?
you're literally quoting me saying it wasn't a good idea.
Not the people who weren't even born yet and are still children.
ok..........
 
Jewish Supremacists like him only accept official Israeli propaganda.

Sources such as the UN, Amnesty Int, Docs without Borders, Unicef, Democracy Now, the Lancet, Breaking Points, feed the children and so many more are not reliable.

Yeah, and don't forget the CBC, and the BBC, and the Jewish owned media that plant BBCs in your wife's favorite shows.
 
While we're at it, if Israel didn't transfer foreign aid into Gaza (if Bibi deemed it politically favorable or not) - you'd be on here crying that Israel is starving the populace. You're very transparent and are clearly in the "I am not a Hamas supporter but I don't criticize them and also here is a video that Hamas released and I think it is very informative" crowd. Hard facts bro.

Nice fan fiction about what I would say in some completely made up hypothetical.

I would never support funding Hamas and have always called them a terrorist organization. Unlike you, who is defending what actually happened - Israel helping fund Hamas.

Weak even for your standards.

So some cunt on a podcast who engages in an intrusive thought exercise and now a large portion of Israeli society wants to systematically genocide all of the Palestinians?

Do you actually believe what you're writing or has your brain fallen out completely?

Except we have actual Israeli government officials and politicians stating genocidal comments numerous times, including dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza.

1. Finance Minister Smoltrich advocating for "erasing" a Palestinian village.


Also advocated total annihilation of Rafah.

“There are no half measures. [The Gazan cities of] Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat – total annihilation. ‘You will blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.”

2.
Knesset member and former Public Diplomacy Minister Galit Distal Atbaryan posted on Facebook - Israeli officials must invest all their energy "in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth."

"That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory," Atbaryan continued, an apparent reference to Israel's reported plan to permanently expel Palestinians who survive the assault to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, imposing a "second Nakba" on the population. "Or let them die... Gaza needs to be wiped out."

"Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here," she continued. "Anything less than that is immoral."

3. Israel’s Minister of Heritage Amichai Eliyahu.

“The north of the Gaza Strip, more beautiful than ever,” “Blow up and flatten everything, delightful. After we are done, we allocate the lands of Gaza to the soldiers fighting and the settlers who lived in Gush Katif.”

“We would not have given humanitarian assistance to the Nazis. There is no such thing as uninvolved civilians in Gaza,” and then mused about considering the use of a nuclear bomb in Gaza.

Also suggested DROPPING A NUCLEAR BOMB on Gaza.

Even officials from China were shocked.

China’s deputy U.N. ambassador Geng Shuang said Beijing was “shocked” at what “Israeli officials said about the use of nuclear weapons in the Gaza Strip,” calling the statements “extremely irresponsible and disturbing” and saying they should be universally condemned.

4. National Security Minister Ben Gvir who said:

“When we say that Hamas should be destroyed, it also means those who celebrate, those who support, and those who hand out candy — they’re all terrorists, and they should also be destroyed.”

5. Former Knesset member and lawyer Danny Neumann called for the “extermination” of all people in Gaza.

“I tell you, in Gaza, without exception, they are all terrorists, sons of dogs. They must be exterminated, all of them killed. We will flatten Gaza, turn them to dust and the army will cleanse the area,” he claimed.

6. Rabbi Eliyahu Mali, head of a yeshiva in Jaffa, who said:

“The terrorists of today are the children from the last [military] operation who you left alive. The women are basically the ones who are creating the terrorists… it’s either you or them.”
 
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PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ANY ZIONAZI OR SUPREMACIST TALK (OR ANY OF THE ILK) IN THE THREAD. YOU'RE ADULTS, DEFEND YOUR POSITION ACCORDINGLY.
So wait! First zion+++ is not okay adn now Jewish Supremacist is not okay?

Are you banning white supremacist too?

You want to run a online karate forum where zionists can call some of us nazis without any cards but want to do this?

Why not just PM us that non-zionists are not welcomed here?
 
So wait! First zion+++ is not okay adn now Jewish Supremacist is not okay?

Are you banning white supremacist too?

You want to run a online karate forum where zionists can call some of us nazis without any cards but want to do this?

Why not just PM us that non-zionists are not welcomed here?

I'm just saying abide by the rules and stop with the petulancy.

Can everyone do that?
 
Hey listen, bro. At the risk of sounding like a male chauvinist, your use of whataboutisms and double standards clearly makes you the woman in this situation. You argue like my ex-girlfriends.

Yeah, I said it. At least I don't condone rape - no matter what their beauty levels are.

Hey "Bro" - No one gives a shit about your paragraphs long Urban Dictionary definition of what chad is.

This isn't a therapy session for your insecurities and mental illness. Stick to the topic.

lol at you talking about learning history with this nonsense. qatar payments have been coming into gaza for much longer than that (from before israel was involved). again, i gave you a quote from 2015....

and you’ll ignore the BBC saying:

Since 2018, Israeli governments have allowed Qatar to pay the wages of tens of thousands of civil servants in Gaza's Hamas-run government, financially support the poorest families, and fund fuel deliveries for the territory's sole power plant. Qatar insists the funding was only for civilian and humanitarian purposes.

You keep saying the same thing over and over as if it negates what Netanyahu (and other Israeli government officials) said.

Hint: It doesn't.

you’ll ignore Qatar noting:


You don't like them, don't like them. But they control the country, you know,"

here i'll again quote qatar:

You don't like them, don't like them. But they control the country, you know,"

sucks that gaza voted in favor of terrorists, but they did.....

Why are you repeating yourself. I never claimed Hamas didn't control Gaza. What the hell does this even mean.

you're literally quoting me saying it wasn't a good idea.


ok..........

If you admit it wasn't a good idea, why are you defending it at every turn?

Me: Netanyahu helped fund Hamas and it was a massive mistake. Netanyahu is a scumbag.

You: But but it was for humanitarian reasons!!
 
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Nice fan fiction about what I would say in some completely made up hypothetical.

I would never support funding Hamas and have always called them a terrorist organization. Unlike you, who is defending what actually happened - Israel helping fund Hamas.



Except we have actual Israeli government officials and politicians stating genocidal comments numerous times, including dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza.

1. Finance Minister Smoltrich advocating for "erasing" a Palestinian village.


Also advocated total annihilation of Rafah.

“There are no half measures. [The Gazan cities of] Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat – total annihilation. ‘You will blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.”

2.
Knesset member and former Public Diplomacy Minister Galit Distal Atbaryan posted on Facebook - Israeli officials must invest all their energy "in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth."

"That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory," Atbaryan continued, an apparent reference to Israel's reported plan to permanently expel Palestinians who survive the assault to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, imposing a "second Nakba" on the population. "Or let them die... Gaza needs to be wiped out."

"Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here," she continued. "Anything less than that is immoral."

3. Israel’s Minister of Heritage Amichai Eliyahu.

“The north of the Gaza Strip, more beautiful than ever,” “Blow up and flatten everything, delightful. After we are done, we allocate the lands of Gaza to the soldiers fighting and the settlers who lived in Gush Katif.”

“We would not have given humanitarian assistance to the Nazis. There is no such thing as uninvolved civilians in Gaza,” and then mused about considering the use of a nuclear bomb in Gaza.

Also suggested DROPPING A NUCLEAR BOMB on Gaza.

Even officials from China were shocked.

China’s deputy U.N. ambassador Geng Shuang said Beijing was “shocked” at what “Israeli officials said about the use of nuclear weapons in the Gaza Strip,” calling the statements “extremely irresponsible and disturbing” and saying they should be universally condemned.

4. National Security Minister Ben Gvir who said:

“When we say that Hamas should be destroyed, it also means those who celebrate, those who support, and those who hand out candy — they’re all terrorists, and they should also be destroyed.”

5. Former Knesset member and lawyer Danny Neumann called for the “extermination” of all people in Gaza.

“I tell you, in Gaza, without exception, they are all terrorists, sons of dogs. They must be exterminated, all of them killed. We will flatten Gaza, turn them to dust and the army will cleanse the area,” he claimed.

6. Rabbi Eliyahu Mali, head of a yeshiva in Jaffa, who said:

“The terrorists of today are the children from the last [military] operation who you left alive. The women are basically the ones who are creating the terrorists… it’s either you or them.”

I'm just saying abide by the rules and stop with the petulancy.

Can everyone do that?
Had to google this word btw.


:)
 
So wait! First zion+++ is not okay adn now Jewish Supremacist is not okay?

Are you banning white supremacist too?

You want to run a online karate forum where zionists can call some of us nazis without any cards but want to do this?

Why not just PM us that non-zionists are not welcomed here?
Dude, your schtick is so obvious. We all know that you are using Zionist as a colloquial term for Jewish. It’s comical that you think you are fooling anyone on what you are really saying.
 
Nice fan fiction about what I would say in some completely made up hypothetical.

I would never support funding Hamas and have always called them a terrorist organization. Unlike you, who is defending what actually happened - Israel helping fund Hamas.



Except we have actual Israeli government officials and politicians stating genocidal comments numerous times, including dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza.

1. Finance Minister Smoltrich advocating for "erasing" a Palestinian village.


Also advocated total annihilation of Rafah.

“There are no half measures. [The Gazan cities of] Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat – total annihilation. ‘You will blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.”

2.
Knesset member and former Public Diplomacy Minister Galit Distal Atbaryan posted on Facebook - Israeli officials must invest all their energy "in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth."

"That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory," Atbaryan continued, an apparent reference to Israel's reported plan to permanently expel Palestinians who survive the assault to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, imposing a "second Nakba" on the population. "Or let them die... Gaza needs to be wiped out."

"Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here," she continued. "Anything less than that is immoral."

3. Israel’s Minister of Heritage Amichai Eliyahu.

“The north of the Gaza Strip, more beautiful than ever,” “Blow up and flatten everything, delightful. After we are done, we allocate the lands of Gaza to the soldiers fighting and the settlers who lived in Gush Katif.”

“We would not have given humanitarian assistance to the Nazis. There is no such thing as uninvolved civilians in Gaza,” and then mused about considering the use of a nuclear bomb in Gaza.

Also suggested DROPPING A NUCLEAR BOMB on Gaza.

Even officials from China were shocked.

China’s deputy U.N. ambassador Geng Shuang said Beijing was “shocked” at what “Israeli officials said about the use of nuclear weapons in the Gaza Strip,” calling the statements “extremely irresponsible and disturbing” and saying they should be universally condemned.

4. National Security Minister Ben Gvir who said:

“When we say that Hamas should be destroyed, it also means those who celebrate, those who support, and those who hand out candy — they’re all terrorists, and they should also be destroyed.”

5. Former Knesset member and lawyer Danny Neumann called for the “extermination” of all people in Gaza.

“I tell you, in Gaza, without exception, they are all terrorists, sons of dogs. They must be exterminated, all of them killed. We will flatten Gaza, turn them to dust and the army will cleanse the area,” he claimed.

6. Rabbi Eliyahu Mali, head of a yeshiva in Jaffa, who said:

“The terrorists of today are the children from the last [military] operation who you left alive. The women are basically the ones who are creating the terrorists… it’s either you or them.”

Nice high effort shit posting with an enourmous goal post move.

Do you actually believe that three anecdotes of inflammatory speech during war time reflects large scale desire for Israelis to systematically “final” solution Palestinians?

Your brain seems to have fallen out months ago. No fan fiction here. Maybe you just lack any self awareness to realize the stupidity of your own position.
 
Dude, your schtick is so obvious. We all know that you are using Zionist as a colloquial term for Jewish. It’s comical that you think you are fooling anyone on what you are really saying.
Absolutely not.

I follow groups such as Jewish Voices for Peace on X and others whom I do not beleive are zionists.

Sure, many jews are zionists but not all

I also lump in those weird southern christians as zionists
 
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