International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

[Koya]

Another day another disgusting settlers expelling a whole Palestinian village in the west bank after a year of continuous assault. And once it's done they bring an member if the Knesset to celebrate. Totally not backed up by the israeli government. Oh yeah also I can't say the word of their ideology.

 

[Koya]

Even the former PM of Israel is calling this for what it is...

עד כאן. ‏אנחנו מבצעים פשעי מלחמה | דעה

ממשלת ישראל מנהלת בימים אלה מלחמה חסרת תכלית, ללא מטרה ותכנון ברור ובלי שום סיכוי להצלחה. מאז הקמתה מעולם לא יזמה מדינת ישראל מלחמה כזאת. גם בכך חבורת הפושעים,

www.haaretz.co.il

Isn't he a hamas supporter ? I mean he ought to be since he doesn't support the indiscrim killing of dozens of thousands of individuals

 

[Koya]

I'm right about what? You said "You're right" regarding something I never said. Is that an auto-reaction? Who is playing it off like it is nothing?

I made two points, and you didn't address either, you went off on a strawman.

1) You made the claim that 200K were dead, and your evidence was that some have speculated that many could die in coming decades, therefore your claim is false.

2) No one including you has been screaming from the rooftops when millions in Africa were being killed (as in right now, some places this has lasted since the 90s and is still going on). Now there are far less being killed in a certain place, and it is a situation to scream about. Seems disproportionate. Maybe black lives don't matter after all?

3) Right there in the Middle East, far worse things are happening. Ten times as many people have died in both Syria and Yemen, yet no one even mentions those atrocities or injustices. Time to stop the obsession and look around.

It's not that what's happening in Gaza should be minimized- but it should be taken in context. What is trending the most on Tik Tok may be the fashionable crisis to scream about, but it isn't the most important. Why is it that no one cares about the other Middle Eastern people?

So since you didn't answer anything, same questions.

1- Where are those places where the double have been killed since October 2023 ? Can you list then ? --> you haven't. Name the countries and number.

2- Are journalists forbidden from these places too ? --> no answer. Simple : yes or no.

3 If the same amount of israelis would had been killed would you try to play it off like nothing like your doing here ? --> no answer, just deflection. So answer, if they were Israeli actually slaughtered by dozens of thousands how would you react ?

Oh by the way I wrote a report on the war in Yemen in 2018 after attending a conference and participated in charity events for Syria and various African countries since 2014. So you spare me your "I give a fuck about middle east and africa" bullshit, cause you clearly don't. None of those conflicts had this high number of casualties in the same time frame.

 

[Koya]

Even the former PM of Israel is calling this for what it is...

עד כאן. ‏אנחנו מבצעים פשעי מלחמה | דעה

ממשלת ישראל מנהלת בימים אלה מלחמה חסרת תכלית, ללא מטרה ותכנון ברור ובלי שום סיכוי להצלחה. מאז הקמתה מעולם לא יזמה מדינת ישראל מלחמה כזאת. גם בכך חבורת הפושעים,

www.haaretz.co.il

This thread is host to a bunch of super extremist Z. They're way more hardcore and bloodthirsty than a lot of former Israeli officials.

 

[Tatra]

I think we've found @Mack Yancy

 

[joy2day]

So since you didn't answer anything, same questions.

1- Where are those places where the double have been killed since October 2023 ? Can you list then ? --> you haven't. Name the countries and number.

2- Are journalists forbidden from these places too ? --> no answer. Simple : yes or no.

3 If the same amount of israelis would had been killed would you try to play it off like nothing like your doing here ? --> no answer, just deflection. So answer, if they were Israeli actually slaughtered by dozens of thousands how would you react ?

Oh by the way I wrote a report on the war in Yemen in 2018 after attending a conference and participated in charity events for Syria and various African countries since 2014. So you spare me your "I give a fuck about middle east and africa" bullshit, cause you clearly don't. None of those conflicts had this high number of casualties in the same time frame.

1) Mental gymnastics that are totally silly. Hiding behind some favorable-to-your-argument time frame to make 10s of 1000s out to be a bigger deal than 100s of 1000s or even millions is ridiculous.

2) You better look up the situation with Journalists in Africa and Middle East and what happened to them during these wars because you are missing the picture in a big way.

3) Who is playing ANYTHING off as being nothing? Show me where I said that. You seem to be arguing with other people's POV that you assume I have because I am critical of this overemphasis on that conflict, which is a real thing. I have my own point of view and criticisms of both sides, which idealogues like you CAN'T STAND. No one is interested in a balanced POV, they just want you to agree with them about one side being 100% at fault.

4) lol your claim about those other wars. Show me the threads you have made and the posts you have made about those wars, then all of the ones you have made about Gaza, there will be NO COMPARISON, I guarantee it. Your alleged acts of tokenism toward those other wars are weak sauce. It is clearly a much bigger deal to you when Jews are the ones doing the killing- that's kind of the only conclusion one can draw. Look in the media, social media, forums, wherever you want to go- the airplay for ANY of those other catastrophic conflicts that are WAY worse than Gaza are minimal compared to Gaza. Trying to retcon your attention to those other wars won't fly because your obsession with Gaza is in print.

 

[Koya]

1) Mental gymnastics that are totally silly. Hiding behind some favorable-to-your-argument time frame to make 10s of 1000s out to be a bigger deal than 100s of 1000s or even millions is ridiculous.

2) You better look up the situation with Journalists in Africa and Middle East and what happened to them during these wars because you are missing the picture in a big way.

3) Who is playing ANYTHING off as being nothing? Show me where I said that. You seem to be arguing with other people's POV that you assume I have because I am critical of this overemphasis on that conflict, which is a real thing. I have my own point of view and criticisms of both sides, which idealogues like you CAN'T STAND. No one is interested in a balanced POV, they just want you to agree with them about one side being 100% at fault.

4) lol your claim about those other wars. Show me the threads you have made and the posts you have made about those wars, then all of the ones you have made about Gaza, there will be NO COMPARISON, I guarantee it. Your alleged acts of tokenism toward those other wars are weak sauce. It is clearly a much bigger deal to you when Jews are the ones doing the killing- that's kind of the only conclusion one can draw. Look in the media, social media, forums, wherever you want to go- the airplay for ANY of those other catastrophic conflicts that are WAY worse than Gaza are minimal compared to Gaza. Trying to retcon your attention to those other wars won't fly because your obsession with Gaza is in print.

1) Mental gymnastics that are totally silly. Hiding behind some favorable-to-your-argument time frame to make 10s of 1000s out to be a bigger deal than 100s of 1000s or even millions is ridiculous.

2) You better look up the situation with Journalists in Africa and Middle East and what happened to them during these wars because you are missing the picture in a big way.

3) Who is playing ANYTHING off as being nothing? Show me where I said that. You seem to be arguing with other people's POV that you assume I have because I am critical of this overemphasis on that conflict, which is a real thing. I have my own point of view and criticisms of both sides, which idealogues like you CAN'T STAND. No one is interested in a balanced POV, they just want you to agree with them about one side being 100% at fault.

4) lol your claim about those other wars. Show me the threads you have made and the posts you have made about those wars, then all of the ones you have made about Gaza, there will be NO COMPARISON, I guarantee it. Your alleged acts of tokenism toward those other wars are weak sauce. It is clearly a much bigger deal to you when Jews are the ones doing the killing- that's kind of the only conclusion one can draw. Look in the media, social media, forums, wherever you want to go- the airplay for ANY of those other catastrophic conflicts that are WAY worse than Gaza are minimal compared to Gaza. Trying to retcon your attention to those other wars won't fly because your obsession with Gaza is in print.

1) Mental gymnastics that are totally silly. Hiding behind some favorable-to-your-argument time frame to make 10s of 1000s out to be a bigger deal than 100s of 1000s or even millions is ridiculous.

2) You better look up the situation with Journalists in Africa and Middle East and what happened to them during these wars because you are missing the picture in a big way.

3) Who is playing ANYTHING off as being nothing? Show me where I said that. You seem to be arguing with other people's POV that you assume I have because I am critical of this overemphasis on that conflict, which is a real thing. I have my own point of view and criticisms of both sides, which idealogues like you CAN'T STAND. No one is interested in a balanced POV, they just want you to agree with them about one side being 100% at fault.

4) lol your claim about those other wars. Show me the threads you have made and the posts you have made about those wars, then all of the ones you have made about Gaza, there will be NO COMPARISON, I guarantee it. Your alleged acts of tokenism toward those other wars are weak sauce. It is clearly a much bigger deal to you when Jews are the ones doing the killing- that's kind of the only conclusion one can draw. Look in the media, social media, forums, wherever you want to go- the airplay for ANY of those other catastrophic conflicts that are WAY worse than Gaza are minimal compared to Gaza. Trying to retcon your attention to those other wars won't fly because your obsession with Gaza is in print.

Still not answering any questions so I'll ask against until you give an answer:

1- You said there are places in the world where the double have been killed. What are those places since October 2023 ? Can you list then ? --> you still haven't. Name the countries and number.

2- Are journalists forbidden from these places too ? --> again no answer. You just have to say YES or NO. If it's YES list the countries where journalists have been forbidden to enter for almost 2 years now.

3 - If the same amount of israelis would had been killed would you try to play it off like nothing like your doing here ? --> again : no answer, just deflection. So answer, if they were Israeli actually slaughtered by dozens of thousands how would you react ? Just answer the point instead of tip toeing around it.

4) Reverse psychology. It's the contrary: you do not want anyone to speak of a war when it's israelis killing innocent. That's the truth. Oh and I have a life outside of sherdog. Try it.

 

[Rholk]

https://x.com/Stinky915846091

> X account that keeps track of movements in the war.

 

[joy2day]

Still not answering any questions so I'll ask against until you give an answer:

1- You said there are places in the world where the double have been killed. What are those places since October 2023 ? Can you list then ? --> you still haven't. Name the countries and number.

2- Are journalists forbidden from these places too ? --> again no answer. You just have to say YES or NO. If it's YES list the countries where journalists have been forbidden to enter for almost 2 years now.

3 - If the same amount of israelis would had been killed would you try to play it off like nothing like your doing here ? --> again : no answer, just deflection. So answer, if they were Israeli actually slaughtered by dozens of thousands how would you react ? Just answer the point instead of tip toeing around it.

4) ReversI h

Deal with the reality- thousands killed > hundreds of thousands or millions. Stop trying to skirt around the facts. You accept deaths of all of these people as long as it isn't Jews that kill them. Show me your posts about those other wars.

What ifs don't matter pal, so stop trying to hide. Israel has NOT killed like those other places, so your hypothetical is meaningless. If they had, then yes, this war would be worthy of this level of attention, but it hasn't and in the case of Africa, COULDN'T. They would have to kill everyone in Gaza, and there still wouldn't be as many dead as some African conflicts.

Stop justifying the hate in your heart toward Jews with this nonsense. Try an ounce of balance. People in that area have a long history of hating each other.

 

[joy2day]

Still not answering any questions so I'll ask against until you give an answer:

1- You said there are places in the world where the double have been killed. What are those places since October 2023 ? Can you list then ? --> you still haven't. Name the countries and number.

2- Are journalists forbidden from these places too ? --> again no answer. You just have to say YES or NO. If it's YES list the countries where journalists have been forbidden to enter for almost 2 years now.

3 - If the same amount of israelis would had been killed would you try to play it off like nothing like your doing here ? --> again : no answer, just deflection. So answer, if they were Israeli actually slaughtered by dozens of thousands how would you react ? Just answer the point instead of tip toeing around it.

4) Reverse psychology. It's the contrary: you do not want anyone to speak of a war when it's israelis killing innocent. That's the truth. Oh and I have a life outside of sherdog. Try it.

I'm not going to spend any more time debating with an antisemite, but I'll at least throw you one bone before I go:

Middle East: Varied but Often Hostile Environments​

In other parts of the Middle East, journalists also encounter significant obstacles:

• Syria: Journalists have been subjected to kidnappings, detentions, and violence by both government forces and rebel groups. The disappearance of American journalist Austin Tice in 2012 highlights the extreme risks faced by reporters in the region .
• Yemen: The ongoing conflict has led to numerous human rights violations against journalists, including killings, detentions, and forced disappearances. Media outlets have been shut down, and journalists have faced death sentences from Houthi-controlled courts .
• Lebanon: Journalists covering conflicts have faced threats and violence. For instance, during escalations in southern Lebanon, at least 30 journalists had to evacuate their homes due to targeted attacks .

Africa: Press Freedom Under Threat​

In various African conflict zones, journalists face a range of challenges:

• Niger: The government has imposed restrictions on media coverage, especially in the northern regions under a state of emergency. Foreign journalists have been barred from reporting in these areas, and local journalists have faced arrests and closures of media outlets .
• Libya: During the civil war, journalists were targeted by both government and opposition forces. Instances include detentions, beatings, and even killings of journalists attempting to report on the conflict .
• Yemen: As previously mentioned, the conflict has severely impacted press freedom, with numerous violations against journalists documented by international organizations .

 

[Snubnoze707]

Genocide being funded by my tax dollars is alright as long as the numbers aren't too big is what I'm hearing.

 

[Rholk]

Genocide being funded by my tax dollars is alright as long as the numbers aren't too big is what I'm hearing.

Damn, whatever floats your boat i guess...
Bit sickening tbh

 

[Snubnoze707]

Damn, whatever floats your boat i guess...
Bit sickening tbh

That's not my narrative, that's y'all.

Glad you are at least aware how sickening you are.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Wow, shocking results in this poll. Not really:



@kflo I thought these were fringe beliefs?

 

[Siver!]

BBC returns to Gaza baby left hungry by Israeli blockade

Malnourished five-month-old baby Siwar is now out of hospital in Gaza - but as we found, she and her family are struggling.

www.bbc.co.uk

Siwar is quiet, held secure by the protective presence of the two women. The baby cannot absorb regular milk formula because of a severe allergic reaction. Under the conditions of war and an Israeli blockade on aid arrivals, there is a severe shortage of the formula she needs.

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Highlighted the inevitable answer to the inevitable question for the thickies.

Of course, fuck it, who cares, amirite? "Parents look healthy" or whatever bullshit makes people feel better.

 

[Mack Yancy]

I think we've found @Mack Yancy

This was such a clever burn, why did no one like your post?

 

[Koya]

Wow, shocking results in this poll. Not really:



@kflo I thought these were fringe beliefs?

"82% is just an exception bro ! Don't generalize !"

 

[Koya]

All the dozens of humanitarian surgeons must be all lying. No way israel is really that evil. Right guys ? Right ?

 

[The_Renaissance]

All the dozens of humanitarian surgeons must be all lying. No way israel is really that evil. Right guys ? Right ?

Why do none of the adults look malnourished though?

 

[Tatra]

This was such a clever burn, why did no one like your post?

wut