International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

[Rholk]

 

[CorninginChristianburg]

True, and Hamas didn't have to give Israel that opportunity.

When he was ordered by the Japanese Admiralty to formulate a plan to cripple the U.S. Navy, he begged them to reconsider. He told them this story. "When I attended Harvard, I came back home on a break. When I left, everyone was on horses, when I returned, everyone was driving cars. PLEASE do not do this."

They gave him a direct order, and he came up with a brilliant plan and it almost worked. He said...

My point is that it didn't have to happen but now, the only way is to end it.

Peacefully, I pray.

If you are bad at fighting, you shouldn't fight. 2025 is not a good time for it.

Technology is more destructive than ever. And, to be frank, no one is coming to save you.

 

[Strychnine]

End what ? The enemy already has been ended. Hamas is no more but an empty shell.

The utter majority of murdered people are civilians, by a far far margin according to all experts. Even those who disagreed the last year agree on that today.

Again and you prove it, it was a justification that will be used until 2035 to accomplish a goal that was already set in stone : reconquer Gaza.

Israel would have done it sooner or later, hamas or not.

We will never know because Hamas gave Israel every excuse they needed to prosecute said plan.

 

[Strychnine]

If you are bad at fighting, you shouldn't fight. 2025 is not a good time for it.

Technology is more destructive than ever. And, to be frank, no one is coming to save you.

Quick sidebar.



I used to watch this every morning before reporting to duty back in the day and I wound up buying the series on DVD. There's one scene where SICON (us) found the location of bug home world. The newly promoted Sgt. Rico asked Lt. Razak,

Sgt. Rico "Sir what's the plan?"

Lt. Razak "Every ship, every trooper."

That was an "Oh $hit!" moment if I ever heard one.

That's what Hamas gave to Israel on a silver platter. The "Oh $hit!" moment, and it didn't have to be that way.

 

[Snubnoze707]

This lady sounds like @kflo LOL! Getting destroyed by Pierce.

Pierce: How many children have you killed?
Lady: "this question is irrelevant".

That about sums it up.

Even Pierce knows its time to abandon ship and recognize the genocide...

 

[Koya]

We will never know because Hamas gave Israel every excuse they needed to prosecute said plan.

Yes we know that scenario : it's called the West Bank.

here houses are demolished everyday, and disgusting illegal settlers can piss on your head and if you're a palestinian you can do nothing or the Israeli army shoots you.

 

[CorninginChristianburg]

This lady sounds like @kflo LOL! Getting destroyed by Pierce. She even said that the child deaths are irrelevant. Revealing moment.

Even Pierce knows its time to abandon ship and recognize the genocide...

"Getting destroyed"

No one is getting destroyed. Except the Palestinian people. That lady is fine. She has a job, a home, a place to stay. And so do you and I. She probably, honestly, has more money than you. And Piers Morgan, whose job solely consists of giving commentary for a camera, is also doing quite fine.

There's nothing you, or even the mighty Piers Morgan, can do but shake a fist at clouds, and wish they would shake back. The UK as an entire nation united, is not strong enough to do anything to effectively deter Israel, and they are not united, and to be quite frank they have a laundry list of their own issues to address before ever getting involved in conflict in the middle east.

Right now there are, in a range of different countries, some largely if not entirely symbolic measures being hotly debated. On its doorstep, European academics (and really only academics) do the thought exercise of what a European army in Ukraine might look like. In this world order, you are on your own. You best not do something stupid. Like start a war with a global power.

That's how you end up "getting destroyed."

 

[Koya]

"Getting destroyed"

No one is getting destroyed. Except the Palestinian people. That lady is fine. She has a job, a home, a place to stay. And so do you and I. She probably, honestly, has more money than you. And Piers Morgan, whose job solely consists of giving commentary for a camera, is also doing quite fine.

There's nothing you, or even the mighty Piers Morgan, can do but shake a fist at clouds, and wish they would shake back. The UK as an entire nation united, is not strong enough to do anything to effectively deter Israel, and they are not united, and to be quite frank they have a laundry list of their own issues to address before ever getting involved in conflict in the middle east.

Right now there are, in a range of different countries, some largely if not entirely symbolic measures being hotly debated. On its doorstep, European academics (and really only academics) do the thought exercise of what a European army in Ukraine might look like. In this world order, you are on your own. You best not do something stupid. Like start a war with a global power.

That's how you end up "getting destroyed."

Lmao at the "do not condone genocide rule" of this forum. This guy here is literally doing it as many others.

 

[Koya]

yeah, i agree with Koya, they should continue blocking it (?)
Aid should only be reaching Hamas huh

Yeah what an "aid distribution" it is. Totally not death camps.

Israeli troops open fire as US-backed food logistics group loses control of Gaza centre​

Israeli troops open fire as US-backed food logistics group loses control of Gaza centre

Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, chosen by Israel, unprepared for thousands of hungry Palestinians, leading staff to abandon posts

www.theguardian.com

Four people killed after starving Palestinians burst into UN food warehouse in Gaza​

Deaths from crushing and gunshot wounds come a day after Israeli forces opened fire at a food distribution point

Four people killed after starving Palestinians burst into UN food warehouse in Gaza

Deaths from crushing and gunshot wounds come a day after Israeli forces opened fire at a food distribution point

www.theguardian.com

Totally made to help starving Palestinians. Remember me why are they starving in the first place ? Oh yeah Israel as blockaded 100% of the aid for 3 months while bombing refugee camps.

Fucking clown we now you're an hardcore Z who wishes for the Palestinians to get exiled to Libya, you seemed pretty satisfied with that plan. Didn't seem to offensive at all to you.

Again go gaslight someone else and go play in your snuff telegram channels and hardcore Z subreddits.

 

[CorninginChristianburg]

Lmao at the "do not condone genocide rule" of this forum. This guy here is literally doing it as many others.

It's not genocide.

Genocide by definition requires the intent of the eradication of an religious, ethnic group. "With intent" is the highest mens rea. Reinforcing the point I made earlier. Israel would actually have no difficulty pulling off an actual genocide. They have numerous weapons of mass destruction, they have biological weapons, they also have full embargo power. If they wanted to eradicate the Gazans, it would not have taken very long, and it would not have cost very much. And as horrible as what is happening there right now is, Israel is still acting with restraint. It's a grim thing to say, but the full eradication of the Gazan people could have been done without a single Israeli soldier setting foot in the territory, and without a single Israeli soldier lost.

A lot of people either live in ignorance or under a lot of propaganda and believed going into the war that Israel was a weak country, only sustained by American military support, etc. You might have been one of those people. That is in fact not the case, and we are looking at the result right now.

This is a war. It's a military struggle between two opposing sides. But one side is losing so badly that impressionable people are calling it a genocide. It is in fact not a genocide. Civilian loss of life is a sad but unfortunate reality of war. For example, 2-3x as many civilians died from WW2 as did combatants.

So, if you're going to lose a war, and you're going to lose it so badly that only your side is going to be exposed to civilian loss of life, and you're going to lose so much civilian life that outsiders will mourn the tragedy and call it a "genocide", even if incorrectly...maybe don't start that war.

 

[Rholk]

Yeah what an "aid distribution" it is. Totally not death camps.

Israeli troops open fire as US-backed food logistics group loses control of Gaza centre​

Israeli troops open fire as US-backed food logistics group loses control of Gaza centre

Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, chosen by Israel, unprepared for thousands of hungry Palestinians, leading staff to abandon posts

www.theguardian.com

Four people killed after starving Palestinians burst into UN food warehouse in Gaza​

Deaths from crushing and gunshot wounds come a day after Israeli forces opened fire at a food distribution point

Four people killed after starving Palestinians burst into UN food warehouse in Gaza

Deaths from crushing and gunshot wounds come a day after Israeli forces opened fire at a food distribution point

www.theguardian.com

Totally made to help starving Palestinians. Remember me why are they starving in the first place ? Oh yeah Israel as blockaded 100% of the aid for 3 months while bombing refugee camps.

Fucking clown we now you're an hardcore Z who wishes for the Palestinians to get exiled to Libya, you seemed pretty satisfied with that plan. Didn't seem to offensive at all to you.

Again go gaslight someone else and go play in your snuff telegram channels and hardcore Z subreddits.

Lmao, you're exposing yourself as a true Hamas supporter.

Try and convince the people in Gaza that getting aid is bad, bro.
You're a pretty sick fuck and the real enemy of citizens in Gaza.

 

[CorninginChristianburg]

I really want the war in Gaza to end. I want the loss of Palestinian life to end tomorrow. And it could, theoretically end within a week.

Hamas is still the most popular party in the Gaza Strip today by far, at 37% support, Fatah is at 25%. If support for Hamas went to 0 tomorrow, the war is over in a week. But 37%, or 740k people, still believe that Hamas has a legit shot to beat Israel. So we end up in this morbid loop.

I understand some people fear Hamas, they fear the retribution that might come from opposing the main party. As much as they fear Hamas, they should fear Israel more.

If you are a Gazan, and you have a friend in Hamas, turn him in. If you have an uncle in Hamas, turn him in. If you have a brother in Hamas, turn him in. If every Palestinian civilian did their duty to eradicate Hamas, the war is over in a week, no more innocent loss of life. I would love that. That would be the dream outcome.

And to be frank, I don't care what party you support if it's not Hamas/PIJ. If you support, Fatah, that's cool with me. If you support the Gaza Greens, rock on. If you support Socialist Democrats of Gaza, I'm all for it. Please, Gazans, support any party except the party whose only objective is to wage war, and peace will come so quickly.

 

[Koya]

We will never know because Hamas gave Israel every excuse they needed to prosecute said plan.

This is what happens without an October 7th or hamas : a slow, suffocating and humiliating death that no one cares about. Fresh news from today but who gives a fuck right ?

Israel announces creation of 22 new settlements in West Bank​

Israel on Thursday announced it would create 22 new settlements in the occupied West Bank accelerating its ongoing expansion into the Palestinian territory. The settlements are considered illegal under international law.

Israel announces creation of 22 new settlements in West Bank

Israel on Thursday announced it would create 22 new settlements in the occupied West Bank accelerating its ongoing expansion into the Palestinian territory. The settlements are considered illegal under…

www.france24.com

Defense Ministry confirms government approval of 22 new West Bank settlements​

Katz, Smotrich hail establishment of new communities, legalization of wildcat outposts as ‘protective wall’ for Israel, boosting ‘hold on Judea and Samaria,’ obstructing path to Palestinian state​

Defense minister confirms government approval of 22 new West Bank settlements

Katz, Smotrich hail establishment of new communities, legalization of wildcat outposts as 'protective wall' for Israel, boosting 'hold on Judea and Samaria,' obstructing path to Palestinian state

www.timesofisrael.com

Israel confirms plans to create 22 new settlements in occupied West Bank​

Defence minister says move ‘prevents establishment of a Palestinian state that would endanger Israel’

Israel confirms plans to create 22 new settlements in occupied West Bank

Defence minister says move ‘prevents establishment of a Palestinian state that would endanger Israel’

www.theguardian.com

Israel authorizes more settlements in the occupied West Bank. Strikes on Gaza kill 13, officials say​

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel said Thursday it would establish 22 Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, including the legalization of outposts already built without government authorization. Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip meanwhile killed at least 13 people overnight, local health officials said.

Chaos and deadly gunfire erupt again as starving Palestinians seek food at new distribution sites

Chaos erupted again as tens of thousands of desperate Palestinians tried to collect food from distribution sites in the Gaza Strip run by a new U.S.- and Israeli-backed foundation.

apnews.com

Israel announces new West Bank settlements despite sanctions threat​

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-announces-new-west-bank-settlements-despite-sanctions-threat-2025-05-29/

Israel announces major expansion of settlements in occupied West Bank​

Israeli ministers say 22 new Jewish settlements have been approved in the occupied West Bank - the biggest expansion in decades.

Several already exist as outposts, built without government authorisation, but will now be made legal under Israeli law, according to Defence Minister Israel Katz and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich.

Israel announces major expansion of settlements in occupied West Bank

The biggest such move in years is condemned by the Palestinian presidency as a "dangerous escalation".

www.bbc.com

 

[Anewt]

True, and Hamas didn't have to give Israel that opportunity.

When he was ordered by the Japanese Admiralty to formulate a plan to cripple the U.S. Navy, he begged them to reconsider. He told them this story. "When I attended Harvard, I came back home on a break. When I left, everyone was on horses, when I returned, everyone was driving cars. PLEASE do not do this."

They gave him a direct order, and he came up with a brilliant plan and it almost worked. He said...

My point is that it didn't have to happen but now, the only way is to end it.

Peacefully, I pray.

Thats a movie quote btw.

 

[Anewt]

I really want the war in Gaza to end. I want the loss of Palestinian life to end tomorrow. And it could, theoretically end within a week.

Hamas is still the most popular party in the Gaza Strip today by far, at 37% support, Fatah is at 25%. If support for Hamas went to 0 tomorrow, the war is over in a week. But 37%, or 740k people, still believe that Hamas has a legit shot to beat Israel. So we end up in this morbid loop.

I understand some people fear Hamas, they fear the retribution that might come from opposing the main party. As much as they fear Hamas, they should fear Israel more.

If you are a Gazan, and you have a friend in Hamas, turn him in. If you have an uncle in Hamas, turn him in. If you have a brother in Hamas, turn him in. If every Palestinian civilian did their duty to eradicate Hamas, the war is over in a week, no more innocent loss of life. I would love that. That would be the dream outcome.

And to be frank, I don't care what party you support if it's not Hamas/PIJ. If you support, Fatah, that's cool with me. If you support the Gaza Greens, rock on. If you support Socialist Democrats of Gaza, I'm all for it. Please, Gazans, support any party except the party whose only objective is to wage war, and peace will come so quickly.

The support for hamas could be zero the war wont end.

The polls are often brought up.

Ok 37 % support hamas... 90% of gazans dont believe hamas committed any atrocities on oct 7.. not that they think they were right... they flat out dont believe they happened

Indeed, almost 90% of the public believes Hamas men did not commit the atrocities depicted in videos taken on that day

There are no new parties in gaza. Its not like they can have elections.. its eother believe they are dying for something... or nothing... sadly theyll figure it out eventually.

This is the problem.. they do not believe hamas committed the atrocity that they did. Nobody will side with those killing you before the person beside you suffeting with you.

The last rockets fired into israel was from lebannon in april..... whos actually fighting?

The last idf soldier killed was a week ago by friendly fire.....

Who and what are they fighting?

And yes fuck hamas their destruction was warrented .... they gone.

 

[Siver!]

Israel announces major expansion of settlements in occupied West Bank

The biggest such move in years is condemned by the Palestinian presidency as a "dangerous escalation".

www.bbc.co.uk

This has come from absolutely nowhere.

Who could possibly have guessed this was the entire point of all the killings?

Land.

 

[Anewt]

Israel announces major expansion of settlements in occupied West Bank

The biggest such move in years is condemned by the Palestinian presidency as a "dangerous escalation".

www.bbc.co.uk

This has come from absolutely nowhere.

Who could possibly have guessed this was the entire point of all the killings?

Land.

Ya never know. Could be hamas in tunnels under there. Def need to establish a military outpost to keep em safe.

 

[Koya]

Imagine that this type of strikes, killing children living in tents in refugee camps, happens every day. EVERY.FREAKIN.DAY.

And if you dare call those war crimes war crimes oh gosh you're antisemitic.

Israel announces major expansion of settlements in occupied West Bank

The biggest such move in years is condemned by the Palestinian presidency as a "dangerous escalation".

www.bbc.co.uk

This has come from absolutely nowhere.

Who could possibly have guessed this was the entire point of all the killings?

Land.

"if not for Hamas Israel wouldn't try to take Gaza and expell Palestinians!"

Yeah right, just like in the west bank.

 

[Koya]

Totally not a genocidal country with a deranged genocidal population. Going on tourist trips to see the destruction in Gaza is a thing now in israel. Taking a 2 hours trip to watch the genocide is a form of entertainment. Middle schoolers are sponsored for this "cultural trip". Do I need to say more ?

 

[Motivated BJ Penn]

It's not genocide.

Genocide by definition requires the intent of the eradication of an religious, ethnic group. "With intent" is the highest mens rea. Reinforcing the point I made earlier. Israel would actually have no difficulty pulling off an actual genocide. They have numerous weapons of mass destruction, they have biological weapons, they also have full embargo power. If they wanted to eradicate the Gazans, it would not have taken very long, and it would not have cost very much. And as horrible as what is happening there right now is, Israel is still acting with restraint. It's a grim thing to say, but the full eradication of the Gazan people could have been done without a single Israeli soldier setting foot in the territory, and without a single Israeli soldier lost.

A lot of people either live in ignorance or under a lot of propaganda and believed going into the war that Israel was a weak country, only sustained by American military support, etc. You might have been one of those people. That is in fact not the case, and we are looking at the result right now.

This is a war. It's a military struggle between two opposing sides. But one side is losing so badly that impressionable people are calling it a genocide. It is in fact not a genocide. Civilian loss of life is a sad but unfortunate reality of war. For example, 2-3x as many civilians died from WW2 as did combatants.

So, if you're going to lose a war, and you're going to lose it so badly that only your side is going to be exposed to civilian loss of life, and you're going to lose so much civilian life that outsiders will mourn the tragedy and call it a "genocide", even if incorrectly...maybe don't start that war.

Yeah and if they do that they end a pariah state like NK... the intent is there they just doing it more stealthy