International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war Megathread

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Sir Punchalot said:
Lol. As if the "Palestinians" couldn't have had that freedom and more a long, long time ago had they not been so fucking enthusiastic about spilling people's blood everywhere.
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again, you have lots of people, like our dear departed new/old friend, and many others in these threads, who actually think they are winning. and that armed resistance IS the path to statehood (and elimination of israel).
 
How come Israel practice genocide and still the palestinian population grows?
This people in palestine replicate themselves like a virus or rabbits, somehow they're able to grow their population despite all that "infernal conditions". Were did it went , those 50 millions into finance condoms for palestine?
 
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Israel orders army to 'seize additional territories' in Gaza

The defence minister says the IDF will increase the intensity of its operation in Gaza until Hamas releases hostages.
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Israel's defence minister has told the military to "seize additional areas in Gaza" and threatened to permanently occupy parts of it, if Hamas does not free all remaining hostages.
Israel Katz said that the military would continue its ground operation in Gaza "with increasing intensity" until all of the hostages "both living and dead" were returned.
It is thought 24 of the 59 hostages still held in Gaza are alive, but their fate remains in the balance after negotiations on the second phase of the ceasefire deal failed to progress.
The fragile ceasefire that had been in place since January ended this week as Israel resumed its ground campaign and bombing of Gaza, killing hundreds of people.
Israel has accused Hamas of rejecting proposals to extend the ceasefire. Hamas has said it is "engaging with the mediators with full responsibility and seriousness".
However, Katz said in a statement on Friday that "the more Hamas continues its refusal, the more territory it will lose to Israel".
Katz added that Israel still agreed to a proposal, which was brought by US envoy Steve Witkoff, "to release all the kidnapped, both living and dead, in advance and in two stages with a ceasefire in between".
"We will intensify the fighting with strikes from the air, sea and land and by expanding the ground manoeuvre until the hostages are released and Hamas is defeated," Katz wrote.
The defence minister also said Israel would "implement US President Trump's voluntary transfer plan for Gaza residents".
Trump said he wants the US to take over and rebuild the Gaza Strip, while permanently removing its population of two million Palestinians.
The Palestinian Authority and Hamas have said Gaza is "not for sale", while the UN warned that any forced displacement of civilians from occupied territory is strictly prohibited under international law and "tantamount to ethnic cleansing".
Months of negotiations, led by the US, Qatar and Egypt, saw a ceasefire deal proposed in three stages. Israel and Hamas failed to agree on how to take the truce beyond the first phase.
The plan stalled when the US and Israel proposed to extend stage one. Hamas rejected the change and said it was a "blatant attempt" by Israel "to evade the agreement".
The ceasefire was broken on Tuesday when Israel launched a heavy wave of airstrikes on the Gaza Strip, killing more than 430 people in two days, the Hamas-run health ministry said. On Thursday, Hamas launched three rockets at Tel Aviv.
Blaming Hamas for the resumption of violence, Israeli government spokesman David Mencer said the group had "rejected every hostage deal".
Israel says Hamas is still holding 59 hostages, 24 of whom are believed to still be alive.

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Ah yes.

It's normal to seize and permanently occupy land grabs to free hostages. That's typical behaviour for any country.

Not.

What a horrific time we live in. Monsters supporting monsters in the fight against monsters.
 
When you attack a nation slaughtering hundreds of women, children, and elderly and also take hostages and then return those hostages either dead or incredibly emaciated and tortured, then expect that nation to kick the living shit out of you and the people who support you.

Have you folks that are pissed off at Israel watched any of the videos or heard any of the accounts of the October slaughter of innocent people by the Palestinians? About babies being burned alive while their mothers were raped... and then the mothers were slaughtered too? There are many more horrific examples. Are you guys aware of those events?

How many of you know the true story of Romania? It may end up like that and no one can say the Palestinian people didn't support the slaughter of innocents.
 
Uneder Biden administration not all bombs approved for Israel in order to fight with terrorism had been delivered.
President Trump had ordered to allow form this batch approved in 2024 th to deliver Israel 1000 2000 lbs class and 2000 1000 lbs class aviation bombs....in order to fight with terrorism.

Till 01.March 2025 th these bombs had been delivered to Israel.
 
Whippy McGee said:
When you attack a nation slaughtering hundreds of women, children, and elderly and also take hostages and then return those hostages either dead or incredibly emaciated and tortured, then expect that nation to kick the living shit out of you and the people who support you.

Have you folks that are pissed off at Israel watched any of the videos or heard any of the accounts of the October slaughter of innocent people by the Palestinians? About babies being burned alive while their mothers were raped... and then the mothers were slaughtered too? There are many more horrific examples. Are you guys aware of those events?

How many of you know the true story of Romania? It may end up like that and no one can say the Palestinian people didn't support the slaughter of innocents.
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I don’t know man. This whole situation is just stomach turning. Maybe there isnt much else that Israel can do but it’s important to remember that there are real normal people that are innocent getting caught up in this. They’ve been mistreated by Israel for a long time now before the 7th.

I’m not saying Israel shouldn’t be retaliating, but I don’t think we should be completely cavalier about the situation and dehumanize the other side.
 
Whippy McGee said:
When you attack a nation slaughtering hundreds of women, children, and elderly and also take hostages and then return those hostages either dead or incredibly emaciated and tortured, then expect that nation to kick the living shit out of you and the people who support you.
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True, but let's not pretend Netanyahu doesn't has ulterior motives to prolong this war, also Israel has done quite its share of warcrimes.
 
Whippy McGee said:
When you attack a nation slaughtering hundreds of women, children, and elderly and also take hostages and then return those hostages either dead or incredibly emaciated and tortured, then expect that nation to kick the living shit out of you and the people who support you.

Have you folks that are pissed off at Israel watched any of the videos or heard any of the accounts of the October slaughter of innocent people by the Palestinians? About babies being burned alive while their mothers were raped... and then the mothers were slaughtered too? There are many more horrific examples. Are you guys aware of those events?

How many of you know the true story of Romania? It may end up like that and no one can say the Palestinian people didn't support the slaughter of innocents.
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I'm sure the thousands of Palestinian children who have died in this conflict were supportive of the initial terror attack :rolleyes:
 
The isrealis are going to continue to do whatever they want around the world without consequences. Hamas will continue to give them every reason to continue to slaughter the people of Palestine. This doesn't need a new thread every other day.
 
Brampton_Boy said:
I'm sure the thousands of Palestinian children who have died in this conflict were supportive of the initial terror attack :rolleyes:
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Their parents voted in Hamas. They have been against peace each and every time it was offered all the way back to Yassir Arafat and the PLO. No other Arab / Muslim country will take them in... because they are assholes.
 
Gaza terrorist leaders showed what they think of a cease fire with the return of the Bibas family. You wanna call it a genocide? Fine, any peoples that support this type of behavior and tactics get what they deserve. Any nation would be bombing the shit out of Gaza, even without the history if their people were targeted, killed raped, and hostages taken in the manner that Hamas did Israelis.
You Jew haters can hate all you want, you know the response from Israel is no different than any nation would do.
 
Blayt7hh said:
I don’t know man. This whole situation is just stomach turning. Maybe there isnt much else that Israel can do but it’s important to remember that there are real normal people that are innocent getting caught up in this. They’ve been mistreated by Israel for a long time now before the 7th.

I’m not saying Israel shouldn’t be retaliating, but I don’t think we should be completely cavalier about the situation and dehumanize the other side.
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it's hard to say they've been mistreated when they are led by a terror group that's pledged to destroy them. makes it kinda hard to trust your neighbor.......

but yes, it's a horrific situation all around and something needs to change materially for the people of gaza to have hope for the next generation. armed resistance isn't working. and israel needs to partner with neighbors in a productive way to enable that change. and make changes themselves.
 
fedoriswar37 said:
The isrealis are going to continue to do whatever they want around the world without consequences. Hamas will continue to give them every reason to continue to slaughter the people of Palestine. This doesn't need a new thread every other day.
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around the world?
 
b-hop said:
How come Israel practice genocide and still the palestinian population grows?
This people in palestine replicate themselves like a virus or rabbits, somehow they're able to grow their population despite all that "infernal conditions". Were did it went , those 50 millions into finance condoms for palestine?
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1 Jan 2025 — Population has declined by about 160,000 since Israel's assault on Gaza began, official Palestinian statistics agency says.
 
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