GRUDGE REMATCH: Gordan Ryan vs Jordan Tabor 2!

[NateTx4112]

I seriously have a slight man crush on Uchi sometimes.

 

[Balto]

If you want to step up in challenge, the ADCC qualifiers are where you want to go. Heel hooks are legal, no Carlos, no belt rank, just sign up and grapple.

http://www.adccnorthamerica.com/

It should come around again end of this year/beginning of next year.

 

[JustTheTip]

That's delusional dude. Gordan Ryan isn't out winning ADCC, he's good but hardly a top guy, and he completely tooled you in what you claim is your A game. You think that wouldn't happen against the Rafa Mendes's of the world in the gi? You seem pretty decent and I don't give two shits how you got your black belt if you can back it up (which it seems like you can), but all the IBJJF drama just sounds like an excuse when you also say that you could be a Mundials champ in a few years. Let me tell you, the guys winning IBJJF tournaments tool guys like Gordan the same way he tooled you. That's evident just looking at ADCC trials results. I consider winning NAGA advanced divisions to be a pretty impressive achievement, but it's not winning ADCC trials or Mundials by a long shot. The vast majority of people, including the kind of black belts you beat in those videos, don't duck IBJJF because they're mad about politics. They do it because they know, correctly, that they're not going to win matches against the kind of people who do show up at Mundials and so it's a bad investment. There's no shame in not being a world level competitor, I'm certainly not, but it's ridiculous to equivocate NAGA with the big IBJJF tournaments.

All this.
Tabor- While I think the BB harassment you get on here is BS, you lost me when you started claiming to be "regional champ" because of NAGA. Regardless of rules, the talent and skill level of IBJJF to NAGA is like comparing the NBA to Jr.College Basketball.

 

[anaconda]

I've been to worlds too. It's not a question of being better than 80 of the 120 people in your division (though it would be fewer at BB due to the quals system), it's about beating the top 4-5 guys. You're not going to be doing that in two years, and you're delusional if you think you would.

As for them 'not letting you', you know the system perfectly well. You could easily find someone to train with for a year who would give you your black belt and then certify you allowing you to enter IBJJF comps. Hell, Keith Owen gave Ari Bolden a brown belt, with your track record you could get an official black belt. What's more precise is that you're not willing to do what you have to do to compete. That's fine, I'm no huge fan of the IBJJF and I understand your beef with them, but never the less no one is purposefully shutting you out of high level competitions. You're just not willing to jump through the necessary hoops. That may be noble or it may be an excuse, but it's definitely on you and not the IBJJF.

But you're utterly full of crap if you think you'd be winning world in two years. I roll a lot with guys like you, good black belts who do very well on the regional competition scene, and I've also rolled with guys like Andre Galvao and the difference is stark. Watch your second match against Gordon again, then watch his match against Mike Perez where he lost in the ADCC trials, and then see where Mike went at ADCC: he lost in the first round to Claudio Calasans, an IBJJF champ. How are you going to bridge that gap? The answer is: you're not.

At least you're out there competing though. Good for you. I hope you do get to fight dudes like Calasans, because at least then you'll know if you were right and everyone else was wrong.

So much this. Displacing the responsibility of getting a freaking signature and paying a modest fee onto the IBJJF is just an excuse. Literally thousands of black belts were able to do it and register and compete on a regular basis, but Jordan is too special? He's so unique they've singled him out?

It's like me claiming I could win the world series of poker (worlds), I have the money to enter (black belt), but I can't win because it's in Vegas and I live in Virginia (registering with the IBJJF).

 

[rmongler]

Who gives a fuck.

 

[yetanother]

It's like me claiming I could win the world series of poker (worlds), I have the money to enter (black belt), but I can't win because it's in Vegas and I live in Virginia (registering with the IBJJF).

It's like claiming you would win the world series of poker if only they would allow you to pay your entrance fee with monopoly money.

 

[the heed]

All this.
Tabor- While I think the BB harassment you get on here is BS, you lost me when you started claiming to be "regional champ" because of NAGA. Regardless of rules, the talent and skill level of IBJJF to NAGA is like comparing the NBA to Jr.College Basketball.

he wouldn't be getting any "harassment" if he wasn't making ridiculous claims.

 

[nefti]

This imho has more to do with jordan's condition than anything else. That's why he was such an easy mark for the black belt that "sold" him is "black belt". I think he saw jordan as the type of person that would rather believe in a conspiracy against him rather than realizing that one make screwed him for his money.

 

[BJJ_Rage]

Anyways, I'm about to roll out. Thanks guys. I wasn't really taking matches at the moment, focusing too much on bills and day to day shit. But now? Now? Now I've got to kick some ass.

dude for real, get your ass to an ADCC quilifier, whats stopping you man? you compete fairly often, ADCC rules are not ibjjf rules, you are allow to hh the shit out of people, I dont see why havent you try...

 

[Kenny from MD]

Jordan's online shenanigans and claims genuinely upset me at a certain point, because he is a silly bitch, flat out. It's hard not to get baited into his shit but you have to understand two things. One, he isn't all there mentally, so there's a certain leniency you should afford to his inane logic and rambling. Two, he is clearly narcissistic and thrives off any and all attention afforded to him. Far be it from me to "diagnose" him, but it seems obvious to me at this point he sees this as a spotlight and platform.

IGNORE HIM. Stop humoring him. Take away his platform. Don't try to persuade, convince, or reason with him. Don't even insult him, even that feeds into his appetite for attention. I was legitimately going to beat his ass, until I talked to a few people, and realized I would be assaulting a literal retard.

 

[Os3y3ris]

You were gonna get your head split homie. Just so we're absolutely fucking clear, I take physical assault seriously and will maim any attackers.

 

[anaconda]

It's like claiming you would win the world series of poker if only they would allow you to pay your entrance fee with monopoly money.

Even better!

 

[the heed]

IGNORE HIM. Stop humoring him. Take away his platform. Don't try to persuade, convince, or reason with him. Don't even insult him, even that feeds into his appetite for attention.

with that, lets all go back to our daily lives

 

[Os3y3ris]

I'd pay their entry BTW, just not the 1600 overcharge. And lol at them being at a different level. It's literally the same people I came up grappling with. Like, I recognize their names and faces and know them personally.

 

[mattemate]

Hey guys, in other news, my sisters ex boyfriends new girlfriends sons playmate just made 600 billion dollars by browsing on the internet. He then called me to tell me that SBJ and mr. Tabor are both full of s***

 

[mattemate]

I seriously have a slight man crush on Uchi sometimes.

Sometimes? Everytime he posts, I end up ordering something that will arrive in a discreetly wrapped brown package.

 

[anaconda]

I'd pay their entry BTW, just not the 1600 overcharge. And lol at them being at a different level. It's literally the same people I came up grappling with. Like, I recognize their names and faces and know them personally.

There you go again making completely unfactual claims.

To compete as a black belt, all you have to do is get your form signed off and pay $35 per year. $40 I think if it's the first time. That's IT!!!!!

If you wanted to be "certified" and appear on the ibjjf list of black belts, then you have to pay $400 (NOT $1600!!!!) do a ref class, do a cpr class, and get a background check.

So please stop spreading your bullshit. If you know so many people then it should be easy to get a signature and $35.

 

[Os3y3ris]

Yeah, THAT'S MY POINT. It was supposed to be $400 and they tried to charge me $2,000. That's a $1600 overcharge.

 

[anaconda]

Yeah, THAT'S MY POINT. It was supposed to be $400 and they tried to charge me $2,000. That's a $1600 overcharge.

Holy shit I'm not getting into this again. Even if everything you said was true, RIGHT NOW!!!! it is $35. So if you want to do it, do it. Stop talking and do it. Otherwise keep crying about how everyone is out to get you and just go away.

 

[lechien]

Yeah, THAT'S MY POINT. It was supposed to be $400 and they tried to charge me $2,000. That's a $1600 overcharge.

You realise that you do not need the IBJJF certification in order to compete in any IBJJF events.

All you need is your $35 IBJJF ID card.

You can get your ID card without being IBJJF certified.

For example, I am IBJJF certified and I also have a IBJJF membership card.

My friend is not IBJJF certified but I signed for his IBJJF membership card application (even thought he is 1 degree higher than me). He is now an IBJJF member and his card said BB 1 degree.

According to the IBJJF website, there is only 2 thousands BBs that are certified by them in the world. and that includes their USA and Brasil overseas etc..