"Get your toes out of the cage"

[WillyWarminski]

This ruling irks me no end. The difference between grabbing a cage to hold position or stop takedowns, and gripping toes to turn your footing is night and day.
The Unified rules within the UFC website don't state the purpose of it's ruling but it seems absurd.
Having to have flat feet on what is a slippery surface once you are flat footed against it is ridiculous.

I'd love to hear for and against arguments here.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

in last night's match it wasn't that he was trying to clinch the cage with his toes intentionally, that's just the position he was in

 

[WillyWarminski]

in last night's match it wasn't that he was trying to clinch the cage with his toes intentionally, that's just the position he was in

That's partly what inspired this thread. The concentration is takes to keep your naturally downward curling toes straight is ridiculous. I bet Herb just has 5 little concrete cubes and no bend in his.
Hang on, was it Herb or was it Rosenthal? I can't remember.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

That's partly what inspired this thread. The concentration is takes to keep your naturally downward curling toes straight is ridiculous. I bet Herb just has 5 little concrete cubes and no bend in his.
Hang on, was it Herb or was it Rosenthal? I can't remember.

It was Chris shitoni

 

[WillyWarminski]

It was Chris shitoni

I was SOOOOOOOO close!

 

[Neck&Neck]

Toes in the cage is a dangerous game
They should just replace the cage with plexi

You Good!?
Now Let’s Work!

 

[Paolo Delutis]

This ruling irks me no end. The difference between grabbing a cage to hold position or stop takedowns, and gripping toes to turn your footing is night and day.
The Unified rules within the UFC website don't state the purpose of it's ruling but it seems absurd.
Having to have flat feet on what is a slippery surface once you are flat footed against it is ridiculous.

I'd love to hear for and against arguments here.

U can grip the cage with your toes like fingers do...

Therefore it provides an advantage..and its dangerous for the user as the toes can be caught up and snapped in transitions

 

[Dionysian]

That's partly what inspired this thread. The concentration is takes to keep your naturally downward curling toes straight is ridiculous. I bet Herb just has 5 little concrete cubes and no bend in his.
Hang on, was it Herb or was it Rosenthal? I can't remember.

Rosenthal has been banned for years if I remember correctly. Something about weed or something else stupid but yeah he never refs any longer.

 

[Leonard Haid]

This ruling irks me no end. The difference between grabbing a cage to hold position or stop takedowns, and gripping toes to turn your footing is night and day.
The Unified rules within the UFC website don't state the purpose of it's ruling but it seems absurd.
Having to have flat feet on what is a slippery surface once you are flat footed against it is ridiculous.

I'd love to hear for and against arguments here.

It's probably been determined by the people who made the rules, such as Big John McCarthy, who knows the sport backwards and forwards, that Fighter A grabbing the fence with toes has the potential to compromise Fighter B's advantage that he's worked hard to get. Doesn't matter if it's not intentional. Eyepokes are not intentional. Groin strikes are not intentional. But you can still, and should still, be penalized on occasion for them.

 

[WillyWarminski]

Rosenthal has been banned for years if I remember correctly. Something about weed or something else stupid but yeah he never refs any longer.

I'm so tired right now. I think you're right and I had NO idea why he was in my head.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Toes in the cage is a dangerous game
They should just replace the cage with plexi

You Good!?
Now Let’s Work!

Blood splattered plexi bless

 

[WillyWarminski]

It's probably been determined by the people who made the rules, such as Big John McCarthy, who knows the sport backwards and forwards, that Fighter A grabbing the fence with toes has the potential to compromise Fighter B's advantage that he's worked hard to get. Doesn't matter if it's not intentional. Eyepokes are not intentional. Groin strikes are not intentional. But you can still, and should still, be penalized on occasion for them.

I hear you and your reply is appreciated but I'm still on the fence (no pun intended).
The 12-6 elbow and 3points of contact rules (aswell as others) are contentious issues and it doesn't mean they are (or were) in place for good reasons. I think that your leap to "probably Big John" is a stab in the dark though.

Some rules need revisiting but I admit this might be the least of them.

 

[Steve Fox]

I had NO idea why he was in my head.

That's how it starts Sherbro. Next step is feeling the need to remove loose hairs from your eyebrows and before you know it, you are going to queer parties.

 

[WillyWarminski]

That's how it starts Sherbro. Next step is feeling the need to remove loose hairs from your eyebrows and before you know it, you are going to queer parties.

You are talking as if it's future tense, darling.

 

[Steve Fox]

You are talking as if it's future tense, darling.

You are accepted here!

 

[Bobby Boulders]

I am just against the Unified Rules, in general.

 

[Kungpowking]

I vote they just drop the cage gimmick. It was cringe in the 90's and its even more so today.

 

[HHJ]

Toes in the cage is a dangerous game
They should just replace the cage with plexi

You Good!?
Now Let’s Work!

Yeah we really can see the action with glass smeared with sweat and blood. Thats gonna work great

 

[markys00]

It was really stupid.

Fighters can't even put their hands or feet against the cage without getting yelled at like angry drunk dad at his child.

 

[DrRodentia]

Yeah we really can see the action with glass smeared with sweat and blood. Thats gonna work great

It'll be cool when the fighters crack their skulls open on it, too.