UFC= Ultimate Fence Clinching

[FilipEmoFights]

This is clearly no longer the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

It is literally the Ultimate Fence Clinch competition.
This is ridiculous. I don’t know if it’s the cage or what. Maybe legalize cage grabbing I don’t know but we have to fix this.
That is not fighting, but if I were to start training again best believe I’m training against the wall literally 90% of the time.
This is…sport killing. Stop pretending you enjoyed that, or pretending that it was some type of tactical plan executed perfectly because it wasn’t..it was walk forward and push your opponent against the fence, while not even getting the TD. Honestly being up against the cage and just defending all the takedowns is way more impressive then..,pushing the dude against the cage.

 

[AldoStillGoat]

I don’t have a problem with people doing that and then actually getting a takedown but Bautista did that 50 times and didn’t come close to taking him down even one time.

 

[tritestill]

What an original thread

 

[Xanzito]

when he got a warning from the ref, broke the fight, and immediately dove for a crotch sniff i literally threw my hands up in the air. That was just disgraceful.

 

[GiganticMeat]

I don’t have a problem with people doing that and then actually getting a takedown but Bautista did that 50 times and didn’t come close to taking him down even one time.

Just listen to what's being encouraged. "No this is smart... He knows he can grind out a decision" from the commentary

Maybe some of them watch this so often they lose sight?

Like no offense. If Bautista can't beat Aldo, he can't. There's no shame in that, going to a plan B shouldn't work

 

[JakePaulMMA]

When Jake Paul makes his debut for his 1 fight/$100,000,000 contract, he's gonna knock the bitter taste out of everyone's mouth with a world class striking display that makes Anderson Silva wish he met Steven Seagull 40 years earlier.

 

[FilipEmoFights]

I would not feel like I won the fight if I held a dude against the wall. I just wouldn’t. Maybe if I got takedowns but uh…I mean what happens if the wall isn’t there? How would Bautista have to approach the fight differently if the wall wasn’t there? Perhaps we can figure out some situations and maybe come up with new procedures or something.

 

[theincognito]

People evolved to use the cage for takedown defense and now wrestlers have in turn "evolved" to use that position to stall. It's even worse than legitimate lay and pray to me.

 

[FilipEmoFights]

Alright guys this women’s fight is about to suck let’s all watch now

 

[FilipEmoFights]

People evolved to use the cage for takedown defense and now wrestlers have in turn "evolved" to use that position to stall. It's even worse than legitimate lay and pray to me.

Lay and prays evil twin lol

 

[podsox]

any person with a brain could see Batista was doing everything he could to avoid a fight in the 3rd rd. 2 judges…. Ya he won that rd

 

[Paolo Delutis]

This is clearly no longer the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

It is literally the Ultimate Fence Clinch competition.
This is ridiculous. I don’t know if it’s the cage or what. Maybe legalize cage grabbing I don’t know but we have to fix this.
That is not fighting, but if I were to start training again best believe I’m training against the wall literally 90% of the time.
This is…sport killing. Stop pretending you enjoyed that, or pretending that it was some type of tactical plan executed perfectly because it wasn’t..it was walk forward and push your opponent against the fence, while not even getting the TD. Honestly being up against the cage and just defending all the takedowns is way more impressive then..,pushing the dude against the cage.

STFU


This is MMA wrestling and clinching is part of it...

Aldo clearly could of gotten out whenever he wanted he didn't because he accepted the position so he could breath and not gas out.
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IF YOU ACCEPT THE POSITION YOU LEAVE IT IN THE HANDS OF THE JUDGES TO DECIDE...

Being pressed against the fence is a bad look its been that way since the beginning...

So tired of people complaining about grappling.


Fuck off and go watch Kickboxing or boxing..

This is chess ... Dont confuse it for checkers...

 

[FraudGoat]

STFU


This is MMA wrestling and clinching is part of it...

Aldo clearly could of gotten out whenever he wanted he didn't because he accepted the position so he could breath and not gas out.
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IF YOU ACCEPT THE POSITION YOU LEAVE IT IN THE HANDS OF THE JUDGES TO DECIDE...

Being pressed against the fence is a bad look its been that way since the beginning...

So tired of people complaining about grappling.


Fuck off and go watch Kickboxing or boxing..

This is chess ... Dont confuse it for checkers...

Therer's nothing "chess" about holding someone against the cage while doing absolutely NOTHING.

This is not grappling, this is ineffective grappling which should not be scored under the judging criteria.

If i want to see this type of ""grappling"" i would just go to pornhub.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Therer's nothing "chess" about holding someone against the cage while doing absolutely NOTHING.

This is not grappling, this is ineffective grappling which should not be scored under the judging criteria.

If i want to see this type of ""grappling"" i would just go to pornhub.

Why didnt Aldo just get out ...why was he there if he was so much better..

Volume striking is a thing...

Not every win is impressive or clean...some are dirty and anticlimactic...

Aldo accepted the position and paid for it.

His coach Warned him...several times

 

[FilipEmoFights]

You can go watch wrestling or…the cage clinch championship. Avoiding the fight isn’t martial arts. Defending every takedown against the cage isn’t accepting the position, in fact being against the cage is the ONLY offense Bautista could muster whatsoever. That isn’t effective grappling and it damn sure isn’t even effective cage control since he could never advance his position. The only position accepted by anyone was “I’ll accept this is the only way I can avoid having my face destroyed by Aldo”

 

[FilipEmoFights]

I’m under the impression that fighters are assuming that being against the cage is a neutral position/50-50 position. Sure your back is up against the wall but you are both standing, and both fighters are using the cage at that moment. Being the pusher does not neccesarily mean you have the advantage when clinching to try and stop someone from throwing strikes at you is normal procedure. There’s no reason that this gameplan is winning fights especially when there is no positional progress. Why does going for takedowns and not getting them seem to gain more points then never allowing a takedown thus “never accepting the position of being taken down”
I guess this is a problem with the way judges are watching the fights. We really do need new rules or this is the end of our sport. Perhaps this will lead to the end of the UFC’s patriarchal/Monopolization of MMA and we can get some new organizations that use different Cage/Rings

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Guess we can add "If you don't like wall-n-stall, you're not a real MMA fan" to the list

 

[deman]

Yeah, it's ludicrous. I remember feeling slightly uncomfortable when Eddie Alvarez "beat" Pettis like this years ago, & it's become absolutely mainstream since.

If u push me against the cage & hold me there, sure, I'm not winning. But you're not winning either. You're just tiring us both out in a desperate attempt to AVOID a fight. That should count against u, not for you.

People says it's up to the other fighter aka Pettis or Aldo or whoever, to escape. But if I started throwing one strike then running away from an opponent, would anybody say "hurr durr it's up to him to catch me". No of course not.

 

[2004 account]

Repetetive lnp and wall and stalling are ruining ufc mma for me

 

[deman]

Repetetive lnp and wall and stalling are ruining ufc mma for me

It's killed my interest for several reasons

1) It's boring. It's predictable and repetitive & you know a fight wont change course spontaneously.

2) Its unrealistic. A UFC fight is no longer the closet relation to a real fight anymore. No real fights in the outside World look like this; not between average Joes or between trained fighters. You cant just dive for a single leg on the the outside World, you'd blow your knees out. And you cant just push somebody up against a wall.