Asmongold

[Your Salad]

I see reading isn't your strong suit...

Also I'm unaware of any country in the world that punishes thought. Speech, sure.

Such a basic and completely myopic reply to my post.
You literally explained how limited free speech isn't your problem because of different cultures and said you're close to a free speech absolutist.
I hate to tell you this but you can't be almost an absolutist.

 

[avenue94]

Such a basic and completely myopic reply to my post.
You literally explained how limited free speech isn't your problem because of different cultures and said you're close to a free speech absolutist.
I hate to tell you this but you can't be almost an absolutist.

If only it was possible to have a stance and acknowledge you can't force it on other people across the ocean. If only...

Maybe after that you'll realize that every single democracy has areas where it isn't ideal and differs from other.

 

[Your Salad]

If only it was possible to have a stance and acknowledge you can't force it on other people across the ocean. If only...

Maybe after that you'll realize that every single democracy has areas where it isn't ideal and differs from other.

"If only" sentences are the worst of the dumbing down of communication.
You are an abject dunce.

 

[avenue94]

"If only" sentences are the worst of the dumbing down of communication.
You are an abject dunce.

I'm sorry you hate the conditional.

 

[Your Salad]

I'm sorry you hate the conditional.

What does that even imply?
Is the new the best?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Where did I say echo chamber?

An 'echo chamber' is a common term used for people who just like to hear opinions they agree with, so they learn nothing.
This aligns with you disagreeing that 'People aren't going to Twitch for insightful commentary.'
I would say its not necessarily a means to attract an audience but it is necessary to keep an audience that would watch for multiple hours a week, if not a day.

I've watched Asmongold highlights on YouTube for around 15 months now because a video was posted of him in here, in the Arcade, speaking about a gaming-culture issue from the left's perspective that the right was overreacting upon.
Thought it was an interesting perspective that was well argued off the cuff while reacting to a YouTube video, so I've kept watching.

And I've bet one of the biggest reasons why his popularity has grown since then is because of the criticism he's received, which begs the question 'Who is this Asmongold guy?' So curious viewers began to watch him to see if the criticism was legit.

I'd be perplexed if someone thought Hasan Piker was the peak of insight on the left.

You're the only one who's mentioned that anyone would consider Hasan Piker to be 'peak of insight on the left.'

But he is the 'peak of insight on the left.... on Twitch' unless you could point out a more popular streamer on the left.

What...when did I say anything about streaming not being popular. Let's make this simple: Going to Twitch to find your insight isn't that much better than going their for medical or engineering advice. Some nuggets here and there, but by and large lacking actual expertise in politics, government, medicine, etc. Specialization, education, and practice exist for a reason.

Your prior post was dismissive of Twitch viewers 'just wanting to be entertained' and 'they like what they hear.'
Sounds like you're clueless as to how the top streamers on Twitch achieved their success over the tens of thousands of wannabees who can't get a few people to watch their streams for longer than five minutes.



'Specialization, education, and practice exist for a reason.' And apparently all of that is in colleges that cost tens of thousands of dollars per semester... but they couldn't build an online audience if it was free.

I think we all have had school teachers that didn't give a fuck, correct? The type that were there for a paycheck with the attitude 'It's not my job to keep your attention, you must give it to me if you want a passing grade.'
Those 'teachers' wouldn't stand a chance in merit-based teaching position, where their paychecks and chance of advancement would depend on their students actively learning the material.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Been watching a lot of content of his since I discovered Freiren from one of his videos (where the anime was reviewed by another streamer).

He grew up in Texas, so it's not surprising he's more right-leaning in today's environment. He's like the Joe Rogan of nerds nowadays.

 

[Your Salad]

An 'echo chamber' is a common term used for people who just like to hear opinions they agree with, so they learn nothing.
This aligns with you disagreeing that 'People aren't going to Twitch for insightful commentary.'
I would say its not necessarily a means to attract an audience but it is necessary to keep an audience that would watch for multiple hours a week, if not a day.

I've watched Asmongold highlights on YouTube for around 15 months now because a video was posted of him in here, in the Arcade, speaking about a gaming-culture issue from the left's perspective that the right was overreacting upon.
Thought it was an interesting perspective that was well argued off the cuff while reacting to a YouTube video, so I've kept watching.

And I've bet one of the biggest reasons why his popularity has grown since then is because of the criticism he's received, which begs the question 'Who is this Asmongold guy?' So curious viewers began to watch him to see if the criticism was legit.


You're the only one who's mentioned that anyone would consider Hasan Piker to be 'peak of insight on the left.'

But he is the 'peak of insight on the left.... on Twitch' unless you could point out a more popular streamer on the left.




Your prior post was dismissive of Twitch viewers 'just wanting to be entertained' and 'they like what they hear.'
Sounds like you're clueless as to how the top streamers on Twitch achieved their success over the tens of thousands of wannabees who can't get a few people to watch their streams for longer than five minutes.



'Specialization, education, and practice exist for a reason.' And apparently all of that is in colleges that cost tens of thousands of dollars per semester... but they couldn't build an online audience if it was free.

I think we all have had school teachers that didn't give a fuck, correct? The type that were there for a paycheck with the attitude 'It's not my job to keep your attention, you must give it to me if you want a passing grade.'
Those 'teachers' wouldn't stand a chance in merit-based teaching position, where their paychecks and chance of advancement would depend on their students actively learning the material.

Leave it to @GearSolidMetal to destroy weak minded people in the video game forum.
I won't forget your help in the Mass Effect thread I started a while back.

 

[HereticBD]

My original point was that if someone's idea of insightful social and political commentary is a streamer, they aren't thinking very hard or seriously.

Why? Is it impossible for a streamer to be intelligent and informed, or something?

 

[avenue94]

An 'echo chamber' is a common term used for people who just like to hear opinions they agree with, so they learn nothing.
This aligns with you disagreeing that 'People aren't going to Twitch for insightful commentary.'
I would say its not necessarily a means to attract an audience but it is necessary to keep an audience that would watch for multiple hours a week, if not a day.

And once again, I didn't say Twitch is an echo chamber. I said it's not a source of quality commentary on politics and similar issues. It'd be a stretch to even argue it's a good source of general cultural commentary.

Echo chambers are a general problem in culture or society, but that's not Twitch-specific.

You're the only one who's mentioned that anyone would consider Hasan Piker to be 'peak of insight on the left.'

But he is the 'peak of insight on the left.... on Twitch' unless you could point out a more popular streamer on the left.

Which is why I noted that this is why you don't go to Twitch for insightful political commentary. There are far better sources of left and right political commentary available.

Your prior post was dismissive of Twitch viewers 'just wanting to be entertained' and 'they like what they hear.'
Sounds like you're clueless as to how the top streamers on Twitch achieved their success over the tens of thousands of wannabees who can't get a few people to watch their streams for longer than five minutes.

Talent, luck, algorithm going their way, it's the same as most media and entertainment to be honest.

'Specialization, education, and practice exist for a reason.' And apparently all of that is in colleges that cost tens of thousands of dollars per semester... but they couldn't build an online audience if it was free.

Building an online audience does not equate to actual insight and expertise in political or social commentary. Again, are titty streamers good commentary just because they can command large followings?

Ability isn't a straight popularity contest.

I think we all have had school teachers that didn't give a fuck, correct? The type that were there for a paycheck with the attitude 'It's not my job to keep your attention, you must give it to me if you want a passing grade.'
Those 'teachers' wouldn't stand a chance in merit-based teaching position, where their paychecks and chance of advancement would depend on their students actively learning the material.

Did I say primary or secondary school teachers are good sources of commentary. I'd be very concerned if someone thought that. Now if we're talking higher ed, then yes person for person you're gonna find better commentary usually if their field aligns with the topic.

 

[avenue94]

What does that even imply?
Is the new the best?

Do you not know what the conditional is?

Why? Is it impossible for a streamer to be intelligent and informed, or something?

Once again I see reading isn't your strong suit.

Going to Twitch to find your insight isn't that much better than going their for medical or engineering advice. Some nuggets here and there, but by and large lacking actual expertise in politics, government, medicine, etc. Specialization, education, and practice exist for a reason.

 

[Your Salad]

Do you not know what the conditional is?

Once again I see reading isn't your strong suit.

Please enlighten me. I'm sure the dopamine hit you get from explaining whatever bs catchphrase you're on about will be worth it for the both of us.

 

[avenue94]

Please enlighten me. I'm sure the dopamine hit you get from explaining whatever bs catchphrase you're on about will be worth it for the both of us.

Conditonal=tense. It was a grammar joke since you didn't want to engage with any of my points.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Is this the hoarder with black shark-eyes who doesn't shower and complains that video game women aren't hot enough?

 

[Your Salad]

Is this the hoarder with black shark-eyes who doesn't shower and complains that video game women aren't hot enough?

yes

 

[Your Salad]

Conditonal=tense. It was a grammar joke since you didn't want to engage with any of my points.

Those grammar jokes aren't hitting like they used to. What can you do?
I did engage with your silly points. Remember the part where you said freedom of speech is cool to a certain extent?
In fact, you even typed out the words "I'm close to a free speech absolutist".
There is no almost absolutist. It's a binary thing my guy, it's as simple as ones and zeros.
You are on the wrong side of this frivolous argument and you are trying to back yourself up using pointless buzzwordy jargon like "The Conditional" and implying I'm undereducated because I haven't been exposed to such enlightened wordsmithery.
This is me engaging formally

 

[avenue94]

Those grammar jokes aren't hitting like they used to. What can you do?
I did engage with your silly points. Remember the part where you said freedom of speech is cool to a certain extent?
In fact, you even typed out the words "I'm close to a free speech absolutist".
There is no almost absolutist. It's a binary thing my guy, it's as simple as ones and zeros.
You are on the wrong side of this frivolous argument and you are trying to back yourself up using pointless buzzwordy jargon like "The Conditional" and implying I'm undereducated because I haven't been exposed to such enlightened wordsmithery.
This is me engaging formally

Free speech is a gradient. Are you telling me you don't believe in exceptions for slander, threats or fighting words?

And dear god, how badly did you do in grade school if you think grammar tenses are buzzwords.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Is this the hoarder with black shark-eyes who doesn't shower and complains that video game women aren't hot enough?

He's becoming a meme at this point. Asmongold reacts to a react video by a youtuber reacting to his react video. That's 80℅ of his content. Lol!

 

[Your Salad]

He's becoming a meme at this point. Asmongold reacts to a react video by a youtuber reacting to his react video. That's 80℅ of his content. Lol!

It's crazy to see this content as the top tier stuff by virtue of views.
I'm sure someone previously could have told you this would be the next big thing in a couple of years and you would have rightfully laughed them out of the room.

 

[Goatenstein]

Asmongold is very physically intimidating and should train UFC.