Media Gable Steveson: I'm adapting to MMA looking at Islam and Khamzat, you need to change tactics for MMA

I keep reading this like it’s some cautionary tale. “Tried this, tried that, weird ride, baggage, newborn, mileage.” And all I hear is the same noise that always comes out when an actual outlier shows up and refuses to fit the comfortable script.

Let’s slow this down.

This isn’t some regional heavyweight who discovered wrestling late. This is Gable Steveson. Olympic gold at 20. One of those A-level athletes who doesn’t need MMA to legitimize him—MMA raises its ceiling when athletes like this walk in. And suddenly the issue is that he understands the transition problem better than most of the people doubting him?

Listen to what he’s actually saying. He’s not talking about spamming folkstyle takedowns and hoping for mercy. He’s talking about MMA wrestling. Cage mechanics. Shot selection. Hand threats. Guillotine awareness. That’s not ignorance—that’s someone who’s studied the failure points and decided not to repeat them.

The references matter too. Islam Makhachev. Khamzat Chimaev. Pressure first. Threat stacking. Wrestling that forces striking reactions. That’s the modern blueprint, and he’s acknowledging it before he’s even in the cage.

And then there’s the part people keep skirting around: mentorship.

When Jon Jones is publicly investing time, advice, and belief in you, that’s not a coincidence. That’s not clout-chasing. That’s the most accomplished mixed martial artist of this era recognizing a transferable ceiling. Jones doesn’t hand out validation lightly, his entire career is built on identifying advantages early and exploiting them ruthlessly. If someone like that sees value, it tells you the raw material isn’t theoretical.

The heavyweight concern trolling is the funniest part. “Mileage.” “Age.” “Can he take body shots?” Meanwhile this division accelerates athletes with half the base, worse gas tanks, and zero grappling depth because the bar simply isn’t as high. It’s how the division has functioned for years.

People want prospects to arrive broken, desperate, and grateful. This one shows up confident, literate, and already speaking the language of the sport and suddenly it’s a “weird ride.” This is what it looks like when new blood doesn’t ask permission. When the next wave isn’t impressed by how things used to be done. You don’t have to crown him today. But pretending this isn’t the most intriguing heavyweight roll of the dice in years is just denial.

When A-level athleticism, modern adaptation, and endorsement from the best to ever do it intersect, divisions change whether people are ready or not.

The UFC better not mess this up. The only reason this A-Level athlete is even considering the UFC/MMA is because his previous ventures into likely more lucrative businesses (WWE and NFL) didn't pan out.

If they lose him by low balling his pay it'd be a joke.
 
The UFC better not mess this up. The only reason this A-Level athlete is even considering the UFC/MMA is because his previous ventures into likely more lucrative businesses (WWE and NFL) didn't pan out.

If they lose him by low balling his pay it'd be a joke.
I dont think they gonna do that. They just lettin him get some seasoning before handing him the bag.
 
Olympic champion at 20 years old. Tried WWE, failed. Tried NFL, failed. Tried to make a comeback in amateur wrestling, loses. Now trying UFC, kinda skeptical how far he can get. What a weird ride he had so far.
So many were saying he was making the best decision, it was strange. I was so certain MMA was the best fit for the guy, maybe I'm biased because I shitpost here and don't watch anything else. Still, MMA should've been a first choice because he wanted it, not just last option. HW division sucks so bad, I feel like a good wrestler will tear it open.
 
So many were saying he was making the best decision, it was strange.
It's not strange. If he had gotten his profile up in WWE like Lesnar or a Kurt Angle, the money he would get to go to UFC would be ridikulus
 
I dont think they gonna do that. They just lettin him get some seasoning before handing him the bag.

Hopefully. The risk is the more viral clips that emerge of him knocking out cans and doing backflips over the ring will just raise the likelihood of another org trying to cash in all their chips to get him and offer the bag and the UFC thinking we don't need him for that much.

If the UFC signed him early on they'd have at least locked him down already.
 
Hopefully. The risk is the more viral clips that emerge of him knocking out cans and doing backflips over the ring will just raise the likelihood of another org trying to cash in all their chips to get him and offer the bag and the UFC thing we don't kneed him for that much.

If the UFC signed him early on they'd have at least locked him down already.
Yea but who knows what they've said to each other, it might be academic at this point.
 
It's not strange. If he had gotten his profile up in WWE like Lesnar or a Kurt Angle, the money he would get to go to UFC would be ridikulus
It makes business sense, I get it. Lesnar or the Rock, etc... have cleared a way. I just read comments that frame it as money is the most important thing, and it's almost like they are vicariously living through them. Just think what a beast he'd be in the UFC right now if he went directly to UFC.
 
Olympic champion at 20 years old. Tried WWE, failed. Tried NFL, failed. Tried to make a comeback in amateur wrestling, loses. Now trying UFC, kinda skeptical how far he can get. What a weird ride he had so far.
The wrestling loss was a huge upset, but overstating the loss. He was still a last second loss and national runner up in a season that he joined half way through the year with a body that was more prepped for WWE than wrestling.

You're not wrong though, his highest level of success level is dependent on two things. His actual commitment and to a lesser extent his chin.

All of the things he failed at can in many ways be justified as better career options than be a top 5 UFC fighter. They were all much bigger long shots for him to achieve though.
 
I keep reading this like it’s some cautionary tale. “Tried this, tried that, weird ride, baggage, newborn, mileage.” And all I hear is the same noise that always comes out when an actual outlier shows up and refuses to fit the comfortable script.

Let’s slow this down.

This isn’t some regional heavyweight who discovered wrestling late. This is Gable Steveson. Olympic gold at 20. One of those A-level athletes who doesn’t need MMA to legitimize him—MMA raises its ceiling when athletes like this walk in. And suddenly the issue is that he understands the transition problem better than most of the people doubting him?

Listen to what he’s actually saying. He’s not talking about spamming folkstyle takedowns and hoping for mercy. He’s talking about MMA wrestling. Cage mechanics. Shot selection. Hand threats. Guillotine awareness. That’s not ignorance—that’s someone who’s studied the failure points and decided not to repeat them.

The references matter too. Islam Makhachev. Khamzat Chimaev. Pressure first. Threat stacking. Wrestling that forces striking reactions. That’s the modern blueprint, and he’s acknowledging it before he’s even in the cage.

And then there’s the part people keep skirting around: mentorship.

When Jon Jones is publicly investing time, advice, and belief in you, that’s not a coincidence. That’s not clout-chasing. That’s the most accomplished mixed martial artist of this era recognizing a transferable ceiling. Jones doesn’t hand out validation lightly, his entire career is built on identifying advantages early and exploiting them ruthlessly. If someone like that sees value, it tells you the raw material isn’t theoretical.

The heavyweight concern trolling is the funniest part. “Mileage.” “Age.” “Can he take body shots?” Meanwhile this division accelerates athletes with half the base, worse gas tanks, and zero grappling depth because the bar simply isn’t as high. It’s how the division has functioned for years.

People want prospects to arrive broken, desperate, and grateful. This one shows up confident, literate, and already speaking the language of the sport and suddenly it’s a “weird ride.” This is what it looks like when new blood doesn’t ask permission. When the next wave isn’t impressed by how things used to be done. You don’t have to crown him today. But pretending this isn’t the most intriguing heavyweight roll of the dice in years is just denial.

When A-level athleticism, modern adaptation, and endorsement from the best to ever do it intersect, divisions change whether people are ready or not.
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Post so nice you should read it twice!
 
I keep reading this like it’s some cautionary tale. “Tried this, tried that, weird ride, baggage, newborn, mileage.” And all I hear is the same noise that always comes out when an actual outlier shows up and refuses to fit the comfortable script.

Let’s slow this down.

This isn’t some regional heavyweight who discovered wrestling late. This is Gable Steveson. Olympic gold at 20. One of those A-level athletes who doesn’t need MMA to legitimize him—MMA raises its ceiling when athletes like this walk in. And suddenly the issue is that he understands the transition problem better than most of the people doubting him?

Listen to what he’s actually saying. He’s not talking about spamming folkstyle takedowns and hoping for mercy. He’s talking about MMA wrestling. Cage mechanics. Shot selection. Hand threats. Guillotine awareness. That’s not ignorance—that’s someone who’s studied the failure points and decided not to repeat them.

The references matter too. Islam Makhachev. Khamzat Chimaev. Pressure first. Threat stacking. Wrestling that forces striking reactions. That’s the modern blueprint, and he’s acknowledging it before he’s even in the cage.

And then there’s the part people keep skirting around: mentorship.

When Jon Jones is publicly investing time, advice, and belief in you, that’s not a coincidence. That’s not clout-chasing. That’s the most accomplished mixed martial artist of this era recognizing a transferable ceiling. Jones doesn’t hand out validation lightly, his entire career is built on identifying advantages early and exploiting them ruthlessly. If someone like that sees value, it tells you the raw material isn’t theoretical.

The heavyweight concern trolling is the funniest part. “Mileage.” “Age.” “Can he take body shots?” Meanwhile this division accelerates athletes with half the base, worse gas tanks, and zero grappling depth because the bar simply isn’t as high. It’s how the division has functioned for years.

People want prospects to arrive broken, desperate, and grateful. This one shows up confident, literate, and already speaking the language of the sport and suddenly it’s a “weird ride.” This is what it looks like when new blood doesn’t ask permission. When the next wave isn’t impressed by how things used to be done. You don’t have to crown him today. But pretending this isn’t the most intriguing heavyweight roll of the dice in years is just denial.

When A-level athleticism, modern adaptation, and endorsement from the best to ever do it intersect, divisions change whether people are ready or not.

I think you're misreading it brah - I don't see anyone calling this a cautionary tale. Consensus seems to be he's the most interesting HW prospect in a long time but there are legit unanswered questions and it's too early to say he's the next Jon Jones.

If you've followed his career as a fan for as long as I have, you'd know he was/is a generational wrestling talent and could and should have been the first to win 4 Olympic golds in men's freestyle. Shit I think he could have won 5. And you'd also know that the way he left wrestling and then made half-assed attempts at NFL, WWE and a WTF return to folkstyle wrestling came off as a talented dude without a clear direction who just wanted to cash in anyway he could.

Steveson might be the next big thing but right now he's 2-0 in MMA. Jon Jones remains the youngest UFC champ ever at 23 and even he had 6 fights before debuting in the UFC and fought for the title in his 14th fight - and that TS was early because he replaced an injured Rashad. We've also seen proteges flame out before. Remember "Baby Fedor" Kyrill Sidelnikov? Fedor's heir apparent, 5 x Combat Sambo world champ but has been a nothing burger in MMA.

Given the state of the HW division, UFC will probably sign Steveson soon and rush him to a TS and I'll be watching with interest.
 
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Olympic champion at 20 years old. Tried WWE, failed. Tried NFL, failed. Tried to make a comeback in amateur wrestling, loses. Now trying UFC, kinda skeptical how far he can get. What a weird ride he had so far.
...but Sherbros have been saying he is the ultimate, and I quote "Alpha male".
 
I've got a feeling he will have hissy fit when he loses and either quit or not fight for a long time.
 
I would say he already runs through most of the HW division. Less than 10 guys even give him an issue.
To pick a random name do you think Josh Hokitt gives Gable any issues? 2x D1 All-American wrestler, made it onto an NFL roster but washed out, 7-0 in MMA but arguably hasn't fought anyone good yet.

I'm not super high on Hokitt but he seems like someone that would at least be a challenge.
 
...but Sherbros have been saying he is the ultimate, and I quote "Alpha male".
Is it a strike on alpha levels to not be charismatic enough for WWE and not being able to make the NFL when he didn't even play college, h.s., or youth football and short for his position.
 
The manor difference between Islam and khamzat's mma wrestling is that both guys fell in love with BJJ to supplement their wrestling. We'll see if gable can adapt like that
 
To pick a random name do you think Josh Hokitt gives Gable any issues? 2x D1 All-American wrestler, made it onto an NFL roster but washed out, 7-0 in MMA but arguably hasn't fought anyone good yet.

I'm not super high on Hokitt but he seems like someone that would at least be a challenge.

Im not even a fan of Gable, rooted against im the national championship, but he would demolish Hokitt quick. Gable would have the advantage pretty much everywhere. Maybe Hokitt has more power in the hands but he's just a brawler imo.
 
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