DC on the greatest potential for an American UFC champion

[Pancake Sprawl]

These questions might not even be asked before he gets a title the HW division is so shit.

Crapping on Almeida the number #5 HW for having no striking cuts both ways... he's top #5 with no striking, worse athlete and less grappling. How do you think the number #5 HW would fare against Gable?

I'd wager the guy is already the top HW from America.

This isn't a division where you need to be particularly well rounded, athletic and skilled to win a title. Just being a monster athlete who can wrestle puts you in the mix.

the division basically starts at the top 5 in the HW division, everyone else is either not serious or doing this because that's the only thing they can do. guys ran through the top 15-20 HWs before and it meant basically nothing.

you don't need to be well rounded, but i'm not wondering if he's well rounded. i'm wondering can he take a punch? because you definitely need that at HW, i don't care how good your wrestling is. Almeida was throwing Curtis Blaydes all over the place before a few cute hammerfists slept him like nothing. being athletic is great, Greg Hardy was athletic as fuck, but he got chin checked by Tai Tuivasa. sure, he's in the mix UNLESS he can't get hit right? then everyone is going to be sleeping him once they see that he can't take it. that's how it always goes. Chris Daukaus was smoking dudes until he started getting hit by the real HWs.

you believe he's the top American HW? off of what? him beating up 2 cans? guy didn't even want to do MMA. he wants money. the only reason he's back at trying MMA is because the NFL and the WWE booted him to the curb. why do you think he's begging UFC to take him? he's not in it to actually build up a respectable resume, he wants the Brock Lesnar treatment without actually being Brock Lesnar.

 

[TheBulge]

Jones said in the first sparring session with Gabe he clocked him with a knee and he said that Gable's face lit up like a kid on Christmas morning and absolutely loved it. Still remains to see how he handles it in a fight though but it's certainly a good sign.

I don't think Brock liked taking punches much in training and he had some bad reactions to getting hit inside the octagon but still managed to beat some real solid guys and become champ so unless he reacts truly terrible to getting hit in a fight he's gonna be a problem.

I forgot all about diva bully Brock not allowing sparring partners to punch him in the face.

Really did him a lot of good in the end.

 

[TheBulge]

guy didn't even want to do MMA. he wants money. the only reason he's back at trying MMA is because the NFL and the WWE booted him to the curb. why do you think he's begging UFC to take him? he's not in it to actually build up a respectable resume, he wants the Brock Lesnar treatment without actually being Brock Lesnar.

Exactly. This mindset I believe is gonna be his downfall.

Funny thing about Brock is although he did WWE and tried NFL before MMA, he was a total star in WWE and was very close to making it in NFL and probably could have made it at some point if he kept at it. And the MMA adventure is something he really wanted to be the best at and he proved it.

This Stevenson has nowhere near his talent. He certainly got rejected by both.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Gable > Tom right now.

No doubt.

I know we won't see that fight, but I would love to see Gable vs Tom right now, and see if Gable could win that fight.

But it's way too early for Gable. He should give himself time and work his way up the ladder slowly. Although yea, I'd say he can probably beat any heavyweight on the planet at 265 pounds at this point. I'm on the hype train.

 

[nonoob]

Gable and Coach are the future​

Gable didn't cheat or fight dirty, no way dd he get that advice from Jon Jones.

This Coachman has the moves, and this coach never beat his woman bloody while he traumatized kids he hoped were his. Enjoy The Rock, (pre-TKO days) when employed by Vince.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Gable didn't cheat or fight dirty, no way dd he get that advice from Jon Jones.

This Coachman has the moves, and this coach never beat his woman bloody while he traumatized kids he hoped were his. Enjoy The Rock, (pre-TKO days) when employed by Vince.

Jonathan Coachman was named in a 2018 sexual harassment and discrimination lawsuit filed by former ESPN host and legal analyst Adrienne Lawrence against the network.

According to the lawsuit, specific allegations against Jonathan Coachman included being a "serial sexual harasser" notorious for sexually harassing female employees. He was accused of sending inappropriate photos and texts to a former colleague, Sara Walsh, and falsely claiming they were in a relationship. Another production assistant also reportedly felt uncomfortable due to his comments and advances. The lawsuit alleged he used mentorship as a pretense for inappropriate conversations with junior female employees, a tactic referred to as part of the "ESPN predators' playbook". Furthermore, the lawsuit claimed management was aware of Coachman's behavior but allegedly did not take disciplinary action until he was laid off.

 

[DiazSlap]

It sucks that Gable is a douche and is affiliated with Jon Jones.
It would have been great to have an American to root for.

 

[Cid]

the division basically starts at the top 5 in the HW division, everyone else is either not serious or doing this because that's the only thing they can do. guys ran through the top 15-20 HWs before and it meant basically nothing.

you don't need to be well rounded, but i'm not wondering if he's well rounded. i'm wondering can he take a punch? because you definitely need that at HW, i don't care how good your wrestling is. Almeida was throwing Curtis Blaydes all over the place before a few cute hammerfists slept him like nothing. being athletic is great, Greg Hardy was athletic as fuck, but he got chin checked by Tai Tuivasa. sure, he's in the mix UNLESS he can't get hit right? then everyone is going to be sleeping him once they see that he can't take it. that's how it always goes. Chris Daukaus was smoking dudes until he started getting hit by the real HWs.

you believe he's the top American HW? off of what? him beating up 2 cans? guy didn't even want to do MMA. he wants money. the only reason he's back at trying MMA is because the NFL and the WWE booted him to the curb. why do you think he's begging UFC to take him? he's not in it to actually build up a respectable resume, he wants the Brock Lesnar treatment without actually being Brock Lesnar.

The division does start at the top 5 and there's only 1 American who's officially in it. We agree.

Obviously he doesn't have the resume. The discussion is about how the UFC lacks real athletes in the HW division let alone real athletes with Gabe's kind of background and how he would place in it.

I'm not saying he deserves best American HW fighter based on accomplishments in fighting. I'm saying if he fought Curtis or Lewis as his next fight he probably opens as favorite. Which means he's probably the top American HW.

Hell if there were a way to bet on ability to take a punch like you talk about I'd already put him ahead of Blaydes

 

[MMAJunkie]

Brock came into the UFC with 1 mma fight. Fought twice (1-1) and got a title shot. UFC HW is paper fucking thin. I say let him debut against Almeida get him right into the mix and fast track the fuck out of him. It’s a very stylistically favorable fight vs a top 5 guy. I wouldn’t be shocked if it was even money on the lines. Dana is super petty and would want to punish Almeida for his last snoozer so this is a helluva way to do it make him fight a brand new unranked but incredibly bad stylistic match.

Everything you said is 100% true.

I can totally see this scenario playing out

 

[TriangleMonkey]

He’s already fighting very aggressive

Sign this freak ASAP!!

Wanna see him leap over the octagon dammit!

 

[mkt]

I don't think Brock liked taking punches much in training and he had some bad reactions to getting hit inside the octagon but still managed to beat some real solid guys and become champ so unless he reacts truly terrible to getting hit in a fight he's gonna be a problem.

He's also starting MMA much younger than Brock and won't be thrown to the wolves like Brock (who faced Mir in his second fight and never faced any journeymen after that). A lot of people speculated how Brock would've done if he started in his mid-20s. Gable is 25.

 

[mkt]

Everything you said is 100% true.

I can totally see this scenario playing out

I think they'll build him up more slowly. Brock had very little time to develop before he was fighting Top 5-10 guys consistently (by his second fight).

 

[MMAJunkie]

I think they'll build him up more slowly. Brock had very little time to develop before he was fighting Top 5-10 guys consistently (by his second fight).

I hear you but HW is weak right now.
If he keeps working on his striking and is not afraid to use his wrestling ala Bo.
He should shred through the lower top 10.

 

[oski]

It's weird agreeing 100% with Goofy...

"When somebody that’s a physical freak, an incredible athlete, and a guy who has competed at the highest level, and then they start transitioning, in a combat sport like this, it is very interesting....

It is a great thing, actually. If you can get in and if you look at anybody in the history of boxing and the UFC, if you train with the best every day, those are usually the guys who become world champions.”
---Dana Frederick White Jr.

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[jsbx45]

Gable Stevenson has a lot of potential. A lot.

I am curious though, how a guy with that much wrestling and athletic Talent doesn't make it in the WWE if he wants to?

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Gable Stevenson has a lot of potential. A lot.

I am curious though, how a guy with that much wrestling and athletic Talent doesn't make it in the WWE if he wants to?

WWE is about character acting, not athletic talent. Plus management is super vindictive, ie waiting to cut Gable until after the Olympic tryouts

 

[joy2day]

There is still one problem- Gable has to be willing to fight for the money Dana offers. Dana would be stupid not to pay him well.

Gable is no slam dunk, but he is as close to that as you will get for a guy coming from another sport with no experience- especially since we are talking HW.

 

[Meathead Jock]

There is still one problem- Gable has to be willing to fight for the money Dana offers. Dana would be stupid not to pay him well.

Gable is no slam dunk, but he is as close to that as you will get for a guy coming from another sport with no experience- especially since we are talking HW.

UFC is cheap. But Gable knows Brock and Jones. He also has people in his ear I'm sure that are saying the organization is desperate for an American star right now.

He will get paid very well. Probably the highest paid UFC debut since Brock.

If Gable lived in Dagestan they'd probably offer him pennies.

 

[jsbx45]

WWE is about character acting, not athletic talent. Plus management is super vindictive, ie waiting to cut Gable until after the Olympic tryouts

Yeah, I guess I get that...but why couldn't Gable cut it? Any idea about specifics? I actually tried looking up the reasons he got cut at one point and they were not clear. The article I looked at gave a little history that he was shifted around to a few different sub promotions and then finally cut, but didn't discuss why. Very curious about the "why". Seems like it would be a lot easier to make it in the WWE than the UFC. Not saying that either is easy.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Jones:
“ it feels like cheating...... a human cheat code"

Well if anyone would know what cheating in MMA feels like...