International France must stand firm in face of ‘new world disorder’ embodied by Musk, says PM

[kflo]

Because how can we agree on anything if we can't even agree on the most basic biology we've all known for hundreds of thousands of years.

I don't understand the second part of your reply, I don't know what "trans men" is supposed to mean. There are men, and they should use men's spaces, and there are women and they should use women's spaces. This really is as simple as it sounds and it has got us through hundreds of thousands of years.

Now the fact that there are confused people, and mentally ill people, and narcissistic entitled people, and perverted people, dishonest people, this is also nothing new and I'm sure these people also existed for all those thousands of years... none of this changes these most basic facts.

if you want to play stupid and pretend you don't know what "trans men" means then its YOU who is actively avoiding the discussion.

i can post pictures to help you along but you can search yourself.

and yes, hundreds of thousands of years ago they had mens bathrooms separate from women's rooms with strict adherence.

 

[kflo]

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Have doctors continue to correctly assess gender at birth and consult that record to verify their gender when enrolling in sports.

like the olympic boxers?

 

[Ruke Doufus]

like the olympic boxers?

There are more than one way to get disqualified from female competitions. Being a man is just the first and simplest one to implement.

 

[Koro_11]

if you want to play stupid and pretend you don't know what "trans men" means then its YOU who is actively avoiding the discussion.

i can post pictures to help you along but you can search yourself.

and yes, hundreds of thousands of years ago they had mens bathrooms separate from women's rooms with strict adherence.

I honestly don't know what it means, I know it's either a man who pretends he's a woman, or a woman who pretends she's a man... I know it's one of those but I have no idea which because either way it's meaningless since at the end of the day it's either a man or a woman, period.

Please keep your masturbation material to yourself, I don't need you to post pics of anything thanks.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

and yes, hundreds of thousands of years ago they had mens bathrooms separate from women's rooms with strict adherence.

edit: missed sarcasm

 

[ShadowRun]

like the olympic boxers?

The one with male chromosome?

 

[kflo]

I honestly don't know what it means, I know it's either a man who pretends he's a woman, or a woman who pretends she's a man... I know it's one of those but I have no idea which because either way it's meaningless since at the end of the day it's either a man or a woman, period.

Please keep your masturbation material to yourself, I don't need you to post pics of anything thanks.

it's meaningless that you want to insist people with full beards, loaded with testosterone, bald heads, and chest hair use woman's spaces. you want to normalize people who look like that in woman's spaces.............because the only thing that's relevant (to you) is whether they were born with a vagina..............or is it their chromosomes?

and yes, use insults to help avoid the topic.

 

[kflo]

The one with male chromosome?

the ones accused of that....

 

[Fox by the Sea]

it's meaningless that you want to insist people with full beards, loaded with testosterone, bald heads, and chest hair use woman's spaces. you want to normalize people who look like that in woman's spaces.............because the only thing that's relevant (to you) is whether they were born with a vagina..............or is it their chromosomes?

and yes, use insults to help avoid the topic.

Society doesn't have to mold itself according to the whims of a bunch of creeps.

 

[Koro_11]

it's meaningless that you want to insist people with full beards, loaded with testosterone, bald heads, and chest hair use woman's spaces. you want to normalize people who look like that in woman's spaces.............because the only thing that's relevant (to you) is whether they were born with a vagina..............or is it their chromosomes?

and yes, use insults to help avoid the topic.

Oh yeah, all those people who make up like .000000001 % of the population... yeah we should just re construct everything from bathrooms to athletic competitions for those 15 entitled people.

 

[kflo]

Oh yeah, all those people who make up like .000000001 % of the population... yeah we should just re construct everything from bathrooms to athletic competitions for those 15 entitled people.

the only person mentioning "reconstructing" anything here is you.

and yes, those people who make up .0000000001% of the population are the ones you seem to obsess over.

 

[terrapin]

I have no idea why you keep mentioning Trump, I'm talking about apples you're talking about orange man. But whatever dude, I tried to engage with you honestly and you refused, I don't know what more you want me to say.

That's because you responded to a post I wrote about Trump and that's what began our conversation. Then you immediately tried to deflect and avoid that.

 

[Koro_11]

the only person mentioning "reconstructing" anything here is you.

and yes, those people who make up .0000000001% of the population are the ones you seem to obsess over.

Oh yeah I made the whole thing up and just love obsessing about it.

If you were some blue haired high school girl I could cut you some slack, but you're a grown man, a 2008 account, I think you once said that you even have children of your own, and you're here tripping over yourself trying to make a case for woke gender ideology. Just sad and pathetic.

 

[Koro_11]

That's because you responded to a post I wrote about Trump and that's what began our conversation. Then you immediately tried to deflect and avoid that.

And then I asked some questions you refused to answer because you claim I didn't answer yours, and in the end I gave in and said ok fine ask your questions first and I will answer you, and you refused.

So again, if you're trying to have an honest conversation I'm happy to start from the beginning. If you want me to answer first then go ahead and ask your question.

 

[650lb Sumo]

For France to stand firm it should leave NATO and the EU. And once again become master of its own destiny.

Charles de Gaulle took some preliminary steps towards leaving NATO in the 60s.

 

[kflo]

Oh yeah I made the whole thing up and just love obsessing about it.

If you were some blue haired high school girl I could cut you some slack, but you're a grown man, a 2008 account, I think you once said that you even have children of your own, and you're here tripping over yourself trying to make a case for woke gender ideology. Just sad and pathetic.

try to follow the conversation.

i asked you why you want to insist people with full beards, loaded with testosterone, bald heads, and chest hair use woman's spaces. you want to normalize people who look like that in woman's spaces.......

your response doesn't address that at all. of course. because you'd rather attack on things i didn't say instead of addressing what i did say. i made zero case for "woke gender ideology".

 

[Koro_11]

try to follow the conversation.

i asked you why you want to insist people with full beards, loaded with testosterone, bald heads, and chest hair use woman's spaces. you want to normalize people who look like that in woman's spaces.......

your response doesn't address that at all. of course. because you'd rather attack on things i didn't say instead of addressing what i did say. i made zero case for "woke gender ideology".

I have no idea what you're talking about and what kind of women you hang out with.

I've been on this planet for nearly half a century and for the vast majority of my life I've never seen an issue with how male and female bathrooms, locker rooms, or sports were set up. This only became a thing recently, but thankfully it seems to be going away finally.

The sport thing is obvious and doesn't need talking about.

The bathroom thing is not an issue either, if you're a man use the mens, if you're a woman use the women's, and if you're whatever bizarre thing you're talking about I guess use the family change room bathroom, the ones made for just one person, with one toilet of whatever.

Basically just go back to the way we did it for decades before this nonsense.

 

[kflo]

I have no idea what you're talking about and what kind of women you hang out with.

I've been on this planet for nearly half a century and for the vast majority of my life I've never seen an issue with how male and female bathrooms, locker rooms, or sports were set up. This only became a thing recently, but thankfully it seems to be going away finally.

The sport thing is obvious and doesn't need talking about.

The bathroom thing is not an issue either, if you're a man use the mens, if you're a woman use the women's, and if you're whatever bizarre thing you're talking about I guess use the family change room bathroom, the ones made for just one person, with one toilet of whatever.

Basically just go back to the way we did it for decades before this nonsense.

wait - you've been trying to insist that ONLY thing that matters is "objective" reality. now you're suggesting trans men who look like men don't actually have to use the woman's room?

 

[terrapin]

And then I asked some questions you refused to answer because you claim I didn't answer yours, and in the end I gave in and said ok fine ask your questions first and I will answer you, and you refused.

So again, if you're trying to have an honest conversation I'm happy to start from the beginning. If you want me to answer first then go ahead and ask your question.

"And then" is a lie. "Instead of" is what you have done. You've never been willing to respond to anything I have said which is a bad faith discussion.

The reason you're not doing it is because Trump is indefensible and you just rather not argue anything on that front. So you will lie and obfuscate and change the subject and pretend that I'm the one who's changed the subject or ducked questions.

It can't feel good for you to have such a dishonest position man. But that's the place all you guys are in.

All you have is Trump's profound degree of sinfulness and moral bankruptcy and obfuscation and lies because you're back someone who constantly lies.

Not going to waste any more time with you.