Fedor's GnP was insane

[kflo]

It's called watching tape and making a gameplan not to get crushed. You know the difference between offensive open guard and double wrist control Nog used in the first fight compared to the tight, defensive closed guard while hugging Fedor tight used by Mirko? Obviously what Mirko used is harder to GnP through. That's why Nog was able to throw up submissions and reverse Fedor while Mirko wasn't. Not only are you a shill but also a noob lol

Lol. I literally said it depended on his opponents defense and you respond telling me it was because of their respective defensive tactics. Lol.

 

[kflo]

Or maybe you're a hateful, scummy shill who is obsessed with coming into every Fedor thread and being dismissive of his accomplishments lol

Lol. Look at you calling people on a message board scummy because they bring facts into your circle jerk. Get a grip. Your emotional state seems compromised.

 

[kflo]

Every post you made in here was shill trash.

You’re unstable.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Cmon. Of course he could.

Shills like you wish this was true but Lewis has nothing for 1. Fedor 2. Nog 3.Cop 4.Barnett and 5. Werdum of 2005.

He also has nothing for 2005 6.Aleks 7.Sergei 8.Hunt 9.Arlovksi and 10.Sylvia of 2005 is the one guy from this 10 who Lewis would have a stylistic chance against. The rest of the guys would beat him easily.

Lewis got walked down and TKOd by 50 year old Hunt and CTE JDS but he'd beat these guys in their prime in 2005? Smh no.

Lewis would have struggled but could beat fringe top 10-15 guys like Mir, Ricco, Rizzo, Schilt, Igor, Coleman, Randleman, Overeem, Zentsov, Erickson, Fujita, Yoshida and Nastula. All of these guys would have a legit chance of out grappling and beating Lewis or could also be KOd by him. He wasn't beating anyone in the top 5 though. Only a thirsty ass ufc fanboy shill would suggest otherwise.

 

[Deathbycalfkick]

Shills like you wish this was true but Lewis has nothing for 1. Fedor 2. Nog 3.Cop 4.Barnett and 5. Werdum of 2005.

He also has nothing for 2005 6.Aleks 7.Sergei 8.Hunt 9.Arlovksi and 10.Sylvia of 2005 is the one guy from this 10 who Lewis would have a stylistic chance against. The rest of the guys would beat him easily.

Lewis got walked down and TKOd by 50 year old Hunt and CTE JDS but he'd beat these guys in their prime? Smh no.

Lewis would have struggled but could beat fringe top 10-15 guys like Mir, Ricco, Rizzo, Schilt, Igor, Coleman, Randleman, Zentsov, Erickson, Fujita, Yoshida and Nastula. All of these guys would have a legit chance of out grappling and beating Lewis or could also be KOd by him. He wasn't beating anyone in the top 5 though. Only a thirsty ass ufc fanboy shill would suggest otherwise.

Mostly agree, but Pedro Rizzo in his prime absolutely murders Derrick Lewis 99.9% of the time.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Mostly agree, but Pedro Rizzo in his prime absolutely murders Derrick Lewis 99.9% of the time.

Lol of course. Rizzo would use Lewis as as a punching bag to practice Muay Thai combinations on. But by 2005 Rizzo had shown down a lot and could have definitely lost to Lewis. 2000-2002 Rizzo would have ended Lewis' life.

 

[kflo]

Shills like you wish this was true but Lewis has nothing for 1. Fedor 2. Nog 3.Cop 4.Barnett and 5. Werdum of 2005.

He also has nothing for 2005 6.Aleks 7.Sergei 8.Hunt 9.Arlovksi and 10.Sylvia of 2005 is the one guy from this 10 who Lewis would have a stylistic chance against. The rest of the guys would beat him easily.

Lewis got walked down and TKOd by 50 year old Hunt and CTE JDS but he'd beat these guys in their prime? Smh no.

Lewis would have struggled but could beat fringe top 10-15 guys like Mir, Ricco, Rizzo, Schilt, Igor, Coleman, Randleman, Zentsov, Erickson, Fujita, Yoshida and Nastula. All of these guys would have a legit chance of out grappling and beating Lewis or could also be KOd by him. He wasn't beating anyone in the top 5 though. Only a thirsty ass ufc fanboy shill would suggest otherwise.

Lewis of course can knock out werdum, Barnett. In a 5 round fight of course he could.

you want to just call names but you aren’t rational. You think you’re smarter than you are.

 

[kenetics]

But even fedor wasn’t able to replicate that depending on his opponents defense. Cro-cop spent half the fight on the bottom without taking much damage.

Probably because he went in that fight with broken hand.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Lewis of course can knock out werdum, Barnett. In a 5 round fight of course he could.

you want to just call names but you aren’t rational. You think you’re smarter than you are.

Yea keep hoping for a low % Hail Mary KO from Lewis against guys who would easily take him down and submit him 9/10 times. You may as well say Lewis "could" have been the champion of pride in 2005 with that kind of haily mary thesis

 

[johny ringo]

Lol

Exactly. Franks GNP is when you are already out. Fedors GNP is like a 230 lb rabid badger with 6 arms on top of you while you’re fighting to keep it off.

 

[mkt]

Compare that to what Lesnar thought GnP was in his first fight with Mir. Fedor hitting Nog was like a bat hitting a chicago softball. Lesnars GnP was a rabbit humping a balloon.

How advanced was Fedor's GnP vs. Levon Lagvilava? Because while Lesnar was taking on a former UFC champ in his second fight, Fedor was fighting nobodies. Pride bias and intelligence are indirectly proportional around here (I doubt any Prideaholics will get that one without 20 minutes on the internet and a few conversations with math friends).

 

[kflo]

Yea keep hoping for a low % Hail Mary KO from Lewis against guys who would easily take him down and submit him 9/10 times. You may as well say Lewis "could" have been the champion of pride in 2005 with that kind of haily mary thesis

Blaydes thought it was a small % too. It was 100% that night. Now you’ll claim Barnett and werdum are better wrestlers than blaydes.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Blaydes thought it was a small % too. It was 100% that night. Now you’ll claim Barnett and werdum are better wrestlers than blaydes.

Werdum and Barnett were better fighters and grapplers than Blaydes.

 

[Wariowokecancel]

The right cross Fedor lands in the opening sequence was insanely fast and as Nog was falling Fedor sneaks in a left hook which was equally as fast and both shots landed flush and made a very loud noise of impact. Nog was badly rocked from these and I believe these shots set the tone for the fight and Nog never fully recovered from them.

On the ground Nogueira is hurt but is still using an offensive open guard with double wrist control. This approach worked for him in other fights and allowed him to set up armlocks and triangles but in this particular situation it was a big mistake because he was still hurt and Fedors atheltic posture was so strong that he just sat up and powered out of Nogs double wrist control and bounced Nog's head off the mat with GnP like it was a basketball.

The sound of Fedors punches on the ground sounds like gunshots are going off and it was so brutal to watch that one of the guest female commentators in the Japanese commentary booth was literally crying. The speed and power of Fedors GnP was something to behold. No one has ever done it like this before him and no one has done it like this after him even 19 years later.

Don't get me wrong there have been impressive GnPers. Jon Jones from 2011-2013 comes to mind but most of the damage he did was done by elbows and of course the LW GOAT Khabib comes to mind. When it comes to GnP with the hands no one has surpassed Fedors GnP in 19 and its overlooked how impressive that is. Fedor was an absolute machine and I don't see anyone fighting like this today and I don't see any HWs today who could take these shots and keep coming. Ngannou had top control on Gane and couldn't land one meaningful shot minus that knee against the cage and Gane isn't half the grappler Nog was.

As for Nogueira, you can't say enough about the toughness of this gladiator. Those shots were brutal and someone like Derrick Lewis would roll over and die if he was pounded on like this. Minotauro is hands down one of the toughest men to ever live for not only surviving but still mounting some offense from his back and even reversing Fedor after taking all of that damage. Much respect to Minotauro.

The second time they fought Big Nog made the necessary adjustments and when Fedor was in his guard Big Nog used a defensive approach and kept his guard closed and instead if trying to control Fedors wrists he hugged him tight and controlled him much better and it was clear that these adjustments made it difficult for Fedor to GnP.

Fedor collected the data from these adjustments Nog made and made his own adjustments for the third fight and used his Judo to throw Nog around used his stand up and clinch prowess to sprawl and brawl and keep Nogueira out of rhythm and guesing. I'll be covering that fight and the techniques used in it in my next post.

Let's take this time to appreciate another classic performance during the era of the best HWs we have ever seen.

Emelianenko and Minotauro bless.

At this point discussing Fedor is like being a 80 year old talking about Ali’s band speed. It’s the Dark Ages.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

How advanced was Fedor's GnP vs. Levon Lagvilava? Because while Lesnar was taking on a former UFC champ in his second fight, Fedor was fighting nobodies. Pride bias and intelligence are indirectly proportional around here (I doubt any Prideaholics will get that one without 20 minutes on the internet and a few conversations with math friends).

Lol what a scummy shill. Tell us more about top 3 UFC HW title contender Derrick Lewis who woudlnt be top 10 in Pride in 2005.

 

[kflo]

Werdum and Barnett were better fighters and grapplers than Blaydes.

They weren’t better at getting the fight to the ground. And it’s debatable who was a better striker.

 

[kflo]

Lol what a scummy shill. Tell us more about top 3 UFC HW title contender Derrick Lewis who woudlnt be top 10 in Pride in 2005.

Look at you calling anyone who doesn’t parrot you scummy….

 

[Jewish Lightning]

They weren’t better at getting the fight to the ground. And it’s debatable who was a better striker.

Blaydes nearly got knocked dead by 50 year old Mark Hunt and was so tired after 15 minutes of grappling Volkov he couldn't do a post fight interview.

Which great HWs has Blaydes beaten that were in their prime when he beat them?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Shills like you wish this was true but Lewis has nothing for 1. Fedor 2. Nog 3.Cop 4.Barnett and 5. Werdum of 2005.

He also has nothing for 2005 6.Aleks 7.Sergei 8.Hunt 9.Arlovksi and 10.Sylvia of 2005 is the one guy from this 10 who Lewis would have a stylistic chance against. The rest of the guys would beat him easily.

Lewis got walked down and TKOd by 50 year old Hunt and CTE JDS but he'd beat these guys in their prime in 2005? Smh no.

Lewis would have struggled but could beat fringe top 10-15 guys like Mir, Ricco, Rizzo, Schilt, Igor, Coleman, Randleman, Overeem, Zentsov, Erickson, Fujita, Yoshida and Nastula. All of these guys would have a legit chance of out grappling and beating Lewis or could also be KOd by him. He wasn't beating anyone in the top 5 though. Only a thirsty ass ufc fanboy shill would suggest otherwise.

Not sure about 2005 Werdum, that's probably nearly a decade before his prime.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Not sure about 2005 Werdum, that's probably nearly a decade before his prime.

That Werdum had endless cardio, took down everyone he fought and was closest to BJJ world champion form. Would have rolled Lewis up into pretzel.

Lewis got easily taken down and nearly submitted by 62 year old Oleinik if he wasnt saved by the bell. Ffs.