Fedor's GnP was insane

and people wonder why we’re fedor huggers. ffs. use ocular evidence.
 
Best GnP!

I find it weird that even without elbows pride featured very vicious GnP. Not to mention stomps and kicks to the downed opponent
 
HHJ said:
There is a big story from Sam Sheridan about the third Nog/Fedor fight in his book A Fighter's heart,as he travels with Nogueria's team to the fight as part of his research. Its really sad when you see how all their preperation was for naught,and that they had tried very hard to make Nogueira faster than Fedor,and they found out pretty soon he wasnt. Also Fedor did not fight at all like he did in the first and second fights,so all the stuff Nog trained for was of no use.
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The 3rd Nogueira fight is my all time favorite Fedor performance. Everything he does in that fight, from his jab to his head movement to his right hand lead to the way he chains striking and grappling together is GOAT-level.
 
When I saw this fight I was like GODAAAAAMN NOBODY IS SAFE WITH THIS GUY IN THEIR GUARD
 
fightfan70 said:
yeah but nog had a superhuman chin at the time.

that gnp would have killed weaker men
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Or maybe it just wasn’t as damaging as it looked. It’s hard to get real leverage and power from that position and it all looks more damaging than it was. If nog’s head was closer to the mat it could have generated more power actually.
 
fightfan70 said:
thanks, thats what im talking about.

nog would of ate that like a snack though.

he was like a terminator that day.
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C’mon. When the brain shuts off the brain shuts off. Nog had a great ability to take damage and keep fighting but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have an off switch.
 
A green Werdum subbed prime Fedor. And no you don't grt to decide when a fighters prime ends based on when it suits their record.
And btw Werdum isn't even a top 3 UFC heavyweight goat.
 
i am a huge Fedor fan and have him as my GOAT but I will play devils advocate and anger many here.

I am one who defends Fedor all the time against the specious accusations to try and diminish his record via how many 'can's he fought.

Yes he fought a lot of 'cans' because during his Prime Pride run they fought 3-4 times a year, sometimes outside Pride, and they had a pro wrestling element where they wanted to provide the fans flashy finishes which 'cans' provide the bulk of.

But make no mistake as Fedor fought at least one or two top rated opponents each year as well so that means he matched any era UFC HW champ in terms of quality opposition per year. They just did not have the 'cans' always to abuse like the Pride guys did and quite frankly no HW could maintain a 3-4 fight per year schedule and remain healthy.

And so when you separate out only Fedors fights against his top opponents in his Prime Pride run (not counting the cans) his finish rate is NOT elite. He is not like some other champs like Anderson who tended, during their Prime runs to finish most opponents and instead Fedor's finish rate was much closer to GSP's. GASP! How dare I say such FACTS???


And I am not saying Fedor was not trying viscously to take everyone's head off and/or submit them, as he was. I am saying that effort just did not always result in a finish, which it did not. His finish rate was around 50% across all fights with his best opponents.
 
Reydereyes said:
A green Werdum subbed prime Fedor. And no you don't grt to decide when a fighters prime ends based on when it suits their record.
And btw Werdum isn't even a top 3 UFC heavyweight goat.
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The results are the decline. The fact of the matter is he was undefeated for a decade having beaten a who's who of HW MMA (and some cans because he fought in Japan where it's customary). According to numerous credible rankings/media outlets etc he was the #1 P4P fighter for half a decade and was fighter of the decade of the 2010s. As a heavyweight, a division notorious for sustained success being difficult.

I really do think people thinking anybody but Fedor is HW GOAT may be lacking the context of having followed his career as it happened. Fedor was a phenomenon.
 
I still think that L to Kosaka should be contested to a NC. According to the rules elbows and headbutts were considered illegal. Tournament format doesn't reverse that, obviously.
 
Mark McMichael said:
i am a huge Fedor fan and have him as my GOAT but I will play devils advocate and anger many here.

I am one who defends Fedor all the time against the specious accusations to try and diminish his record via how many 'can's he fought.

Yes he fought a lot of 'cans' because during his Prime Pride run they fought 3-4 times a year, sometimes outside Pride, and they had a pro wrestling element where they wanted to provide the fans flashy finishes which 'cans' provide the bulk of.

But make no mistake as Fedor fought at least one or two top rated opponents each year as well so that means he matched any era UFC HW champ in terms of quality opposition per year. They just did not have the 'cans' always to abuse like the Pride guys did and quite frankly no HW could maintain a 3-4 fight per year schedule and remain healthy.

And so when you separate out only Fedors fights against his top opponents in his Prime Pride run (not counting the cans) his finish rate is NOT elite. He is not like some other champs like Anderson who tended, during their Prime runs to finish most opponents and instead Fedor's finish rate was much closer to GSP's. GASP! How dare I say such FACTS???


And I am not saying Fedor was not trying viscously to take everyone's head off and/or submit them, as he was. I am saying that effort just did not always result in a finish, which it did not. His finish rate was around 50% across all fights with his best opponents.
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Cool story bro. It's an interesting stat to point out but you framed the whole post strangely. Sure, he didn't have a high finish % against top opponents but to me that tells me that he was capable of going the distance when he needed to all while being a vicious finisher as well.

The fact he does have some great finishes against good opposition while also having some big decision wins is a strength, not a weakness.
 
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