Do you think Aspinall will take down Gane instantly?

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Im more curious if Gane has improved his dog shit sub defense

 

[moosaev]

Aspinall doesn’t need to take him down, I think he could KO Gane within 3 mins regardless. Gane is one of the most overrated fighters on the roster.

 

[jeff7b9]

So what's your point, that Gane somehow can't hurt Tom even if he lands? I didn't even say anything about Gane knocking Tom out.

We don't need to discuss things.

I have told you many times I think you are retarded but you insist on continuing to respond to my posts with more horrible takes.

You quoted me with your tard take on being impressed Gane stopped gassed Tui like that was some meaningful achievement and Tui is an actual legit striker. That tracks.

I said Gane is over rated, you reply, oh yeah well he knocked out a fat punching bag, I called you a tard, I think we covered all the bases here.

 

[Caio]

No. Dude trains with Rico Verhoeven. He is not afraid of standing up with Gane.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

We don't need to discuss things.

I have told you many times I think you are retarded but you insist on continuing to respond to my posts with more horrible takes.

You quoted me with your tard take on being impressed Gane stopped gassed Tui like that was some meaningful achievement and Tui is an actual legit striker. That tracks.

I said Gane is over rated, you reply, oh yeah well he knocked out a fat punching bag, I called you a tard, I think we covered all the bases here.

Actually I've been spot on for several of the biggest fights in recent history, fights where most Sherdoggers were wrong. You're just a very immature bizarre human being that is trying to rage against your inferiority complex, but regardless of your feelings I have objectivity to point to. But sure, I would much rather discuss MMA with more masculine, measured individuals that are more emotionally in control of themselves.

 

[Psychojoe86]

Tbh I think Aspinall will take him down and sub him quickly. Hes lost too much career time waiting for Jones and I believe he will want to be efficient and work to resume being active.

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

He better.

 

[LincolnHawk1]

I think tom will want to take him down immediately and submit him faster than jones did to cyril. I think he wants to prove a point more about him being better than Jon. And toms grappling game is levels above Cyril. If he wants to end it quickly he will grapple right away.

 

[jeff7b9]

Actually I've been spot on for several of the biggest fights in recent history, fights where most Sherdoggers were wrong. You're just a very immature bizarre human being that is trying to rage against your inferiority complex, but regardless of your feelings I have objectivity to point to. But sure, I would much rather discuss MMA with more masculine, measured individuals that are more emotionally in control of themselves.

You should look in a mirror guy.

You are name calling and projecting and having a temper tantrum.

Put me on your ignore list.

I think you are an idiot. I have told you this before.


If you continue to quote me I will continue to point out your constant horrible takes on MMA.

Nothing positive will come from continuing to interact with me.

I don't like you.

 

[Cemalex88]

I think he will ko Gane in the first round. He doesnt need to take him down because he also has superior striking too

 

[Ayreon]

Ngannou and Jones showed the path to defeat Gane.

If Tom is smart enough he will mix it up with his boxing to get an easy win.

If he goes full kickboxing will be 50% 50%

 

[KungFuCow]

If Gane wins and Jones is back, what is Dana supposed to do then?

Jon can go to the back of the line and fight all the contenders Tom has already beaten. Im sure even suggesting this will make Jon's fanboi's go apeshit but Jon blew has chance. He can work his way back up like everyone else.

Let Gane fight whoever is #1 contendor and its not Jon.

 

[fzoid4454]

It's an interesting standup fight, I suppose. But won't aspinall just take him down and submit him? Any reason to think that he couldn't/wouldn't? Why risk anything?

If it was that easy to take down and submit someone who has elite striking, then why didn't anyone besides Francis and Jones do it.

You don't think that Gane will have something to say about it?

Are Aspinall's takedowns that elite? He has 5 in 8 fights, but if you're knocking people out, you don't really need them, so that might not tell the whole story.

 

[mkess101]

If it was that easy to take down and submit someone who has elite striking, then why didn't anyone besides Francis and Jones do it.

You don't think that Gane will have something to say about it?

Are Aspinall's takedowns that elite? He has 5 in 8 fights, but if you're knocking people out, you don't really need them, so that might not tell the whole story.

Probably not that easy for the rest of the guys on Gane's resume'. Not exactly a who's who of grappling phenoms. Or even of explosive athletes who could just use athleticism to take Gane down.

You think from what we've seen that Aspinall is closer to Jones and Ngannou in terms of what he's capable of with his grappling...or closer to Mayes, Rozenstruik, Black Beast, or Tuivasa? Gane (yes, injured but fighters are almost always injured to varying degrees) struggled badly with the grappling of Volkov last time out. What did the grappling of Aspinall look like vs Volkov?

Seems like there's a pretty wide gap.

 

[Burd]

I don’t care if Aspinall wins a decision, it’ll be equally as impressive as Jon. Not all fights are the same and as long as you aren’t ducking as a champion you just need to win

 

[Bouboumaster]

He should

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Gane has the most over rated striking I can think of.

No one shot power, at HW none the less where everyone has 1 shot KO power.

Zero killer instinct.

His entire HL reel is based on fat guys who lose half their fights, and actually they aren't even winning that much in the last few years, when Gane fights halfway decent strikers he at best squeaks by on points, sometimes with help from bad judging.

What the fuck are you guys trying to convince yourself you see with him?
This is like modern day "Emporers New Clothes" with the hype on this guy.

Tom knocking Gane the fuck out in <2min is way more likely that Gane outstiking Tom for a win.

Since when did one shot power and high level striking become synonymous? Just because you can hit hard does not make you a good striker. Also, The only guys who are consistently one shotting guys right now are Tom and Derrick. There have been more HW fights going the distance lately than there are ones that end early. So I don't know why you talk as if most of these guys have fuck you power when they don't.

Zero killer instinct? How? He showed killer instinct in finishing Spivac, JDS, Lewis and Tuivasa. Just because Gane isn't trying to take your head off from the moment the fight begins does not mean he won't finish if you if the finish is there. He likes to slowly break his opponent and look for the finish in later rounds opposed to trying to finish them ASAP. This is why most of Gane's finishes are in 5 round fights, Gane's method of fighting is more suited for 5 rounds, not 3.

Francis could not knock Gane out in 25 minutes, there is no way Tom is KO'ing Gane in 2 minutes. Yes you can say all you want Tom is faster and is more accurate and you're more than likely right but a locked in Gane who is focused on avoiding power shots and prioritizing defense is VERY hard to hit as we saw in his fight with Francis, Francis swinging at air the whole fight. Yes you can argue "Tuivasa knocked him down" Okay, so what? Gane wasn't even taking Tuivasa seriously until after the knock down where then Gane proceeds to beat the shit out of Tai until he can't stand anymore.

 

[mkess101]

Since when did one shot power and high level striking become synonymous? Just because you can hit hard does not make you a good striker. Also, The only guys who are consistently one shotting guys right now are Tom and Derrick. There have been more HW fights going the distance lately than there are ones that end early. So I don't know why you talk as if most of these guys have fuck you power when they don't.

Zero killer instinct? How? He showed killer instinct in finishing Spivac, JDS, Lewis and Tuivasa. Just because Gane isn't trying to take your head off from the moment the fight begins does not mean he won't finish if you if the finish is there. He likes to slowly break his opponent and look for the finish in later rounds opposed to trying to finish them ASAP. This is why most of Gane's finishes are in 5 round fights, Gane's method of fighting is more suited for 5 rounds, not 3.

Francis could not knock Gane out in 25 minutes, there is no way Tom is KO'ing Gane in 2 minutes. Yes you can say all you want Tom is faster and is more accurate and you're more than likely right but a locked in Gane who is focused on avoiding power shots and prioritizing defense is VERY hard to hit as we saw in his fight with Francis, Francis swinging at air the whole fight. Yes you can argue "Tuivasa knocked him down" Okay, so what? Gane wasn't even taking Tuivasa seriously until after the knock down where then Gane proceeds to beat the shit out of Tai until he can't stand anymore.

I'm not saying he WILL, but acting like a guy who's knocking everyone out early can't do it again seems foolish. Gane is a slicker striker than other guys Aspinall has beaten, but that hardly means Gane can't get starched too.

 

[TheNewGame]

Francis had improved his wrestling and took Stipe down as well, just because he's a giant strong African you don't need to racistly label him as a completely unskilled brute. Yes even African guys can develop some wrestling ability, I know it's mind-blowing.

There's plenty of great black wrestlers. I think the word you're looking for is xenophobic.

Like If you weren't so xenophobic, you'd realize Tom is a very skilled well rounded fighter who can wrestle/grapple and is at least on the same level as Ngannou, which is what I was implying. Yes even Brits can develop some wrestling ability, mind blowing I know.

Also, Stipe wasn't exactly in his prime when Francis fought him at the end of his career, and Junior Dos Santos took down Stipe as well.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

There's plenty of great black wrestlers. I think the word you're looking for is xenophobic.

Like If you weren't so xenophobic, you'd realize Tom is a very skilled well rounded fighter who can wrestle/grapple and is at least on the same level as Ngannou, which is what I was implying. Yes even Brits can develop some wrestling ability, mind blowing I know.

Also, Stipe wasn't exactly in his prime when Francis fought him at the end of his career, and Junior Dos Santos took down Stipe as well.

Yeah and JDS also took down Shane Carwin....Stipe was not in his absolute prime but he was SO out of his prime that he was the champ.