First of all Razor w/ my jidding i wasn't singlin out you man I was joking about most of us here myself included, we do spend a lot of time on here many of us. Capt.Fuktard u've really held your own man, you don't need much help from me. I think your most important point was faith isn't supposed to be a tangible thing, not at all. That's what faith is belief w/o reason. It's like taking a giant step over a cliff hoping you won't fallyou can never be positive until u test it out. And from personal experience praying does help, soem might call it coincidence but even in my most skeptical moments i feel convinced of a higher power watching out for us. The Bible was written by scribes, just like history was written by scribes. You don't doubt Cyrus ruled Persia, Alexander spread Hellinism or Columbus sialed to America do you? Those events were recorded by scribes . No one alive experienced them. Now one might argue those were physical and social events not spiritual, but it seems less likely people would impose restrcitions or rules on themselves as they did then or would write stories just like that. Again Faith is called in to play though. For everyone questioning the Old Testament's rules about slavery genocide etc. Well do you believe i nevolution? Evolution would say stopping Hitler is dead wrong. That blacks, Asians, Aboriginies and even caertain whites right off the bat don't deserve to exist because they are below whitesw in society and we should kill all mentally handicapped and many physically handicapped. people love the ideas of Darwin saying it's natural to want to have sex and you should, it's natural to do what will get you ahead even if it requires back stabbing, killing babies is good because it limits population. Humanitarians largely base their lifestyles on marx and darwin. Marx said religon is stupid lets kill the religious is that any better than the crusades? Really nothing is perfect and religon will let you down. I went on a retreat a fewweeks ago and some peopel started crying, claiming it was a gift of the Holy Spirit I don't want to judge them and i take them on their integrity. But it was so hypocritical some of the bitchiest just despisable girls. In fact many times w/ religon i find the very involved "very religous" are people who you'd expect the least and the most religously unattached are of the nicest people you could meet. It's an unfortunate circumstance and it turns people off, but maybe God calls most for the ones who need it most.