Do Republicans hate the constitution?

[Jack V Savage]

Shit has been happen on both side for a long time.

Did you use the wrong link or something? What you posted wasn't in any way similar to the current situation.

 

[UpaLoompa]

When has Obama ever 'moderated' on anything?

Obama has been moderate on pretty much everything. He's been pretty heavily criticized for that by liberals. Even "Obamacare", it was "Dolecare" in 1996.

 

[COTUR1@43]

Apparently Obama only gets to be president for 3/5ths of his term.

 

[oldshadow]

Did you use the wrong link or something? What you posted wasn't in any way similar to the current situation.

My post was about one side screwing with the other anyway they can.

So this is no different.

 

[Fawlty]

Obama has been moderate on pretty much everything. He's been pretty heavily criticized for that by liberals. Even "Obamacare", it was "Dolecare" in 1996.

That really says something about the shift of the party. In our lifetimes, many Republicans were actually open to a universal, subsidized but still for-profit healthcare system.

 

[kpt018]

pretty sure it was an argument you framed and then baited posters into

(I could be wrong, I just remember reading the thread earlier today)

So why make accusations "if you could be wrong"? Have some decency man.

I simply said that voter turn out was a major factor in 2014 and will be going forward. If that's baiting then wtf is anyone doing in these threads?

 

[Jack V Savage]

My post was about one side screwing with the other anyway they can.

So this is no different.

Where is the screwing in your post? Opposition to recess appointments is not the same as denying a president's legitimacy to fulfill his duty. Everyone hates recess appointments.

 

[COTUR1@43]

 

[lfd0311]

Ha!

McConnell dindu nuffin. He's a good boy.

Not just off the rails, but onto the wrong side of the tracks.

Where did I say any of that? He is clearly (lamely) trying to appeal to the army of mouth breathers on the far right that think that everything Obama does is borderline criminal. He is basically setting himself up for bitching down the road in the event that a Republican wins the Presidency. Do I really think he is going to take active steps to prevent the President from doing his job? No. Because he'll get raked over the coals, and I'd be right there to help drag him.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Obama has been moderate on pretty much everything. He's been pretty heavily criticized for that by liberals. Even "Obamacare", it was "Dolecare" in 1996.

To the uber far-left, yeah, he's moderated on everything they've wanted. Being far-left isn't left enough. Hell, Bernie Sanders isn't left enough for what Communists want.

 

[lfd0311]

Where is the contradiction?

This makes the second time I've said it. According to Liberals, Democrats are the party of science and education. You're the only ones who really care about America. You're all united behind the same ideals. Yet for some reason you just can't be bothered to vote in the mid term elections...... Not a contradiction at all....

 

[kpt018]

This makes the second time I've said it. According to Liberals, Democrats are the party of science and education. You're the only ones who really care about America. You're all united behind the same ideals. Yet for some reason you just can't be bothered to vote in the mid term elections...... Not a contradiction at all....

I didn't see you post anything like this before.

Anyway, it is not liberalism to accuse conservatives of failing to love the country. We just think they are going about it wrong and/or have the wrong priorities. In fact conservatives are very passionate (as a group more passionate than liberals).

And there still is no contradiction. If you read the links I posted you would see conservative turn out was very poor in 2014 as well, so that should clue you in that you may be wrong.

 

[Fawlty]

Where did I say any of that? He is clearly (lamely) trying to appeal to the army of mouth breathers on the far right that think that everything Obama does is borderline criminal. He is basically setting himself up for bitching down the road in the event that a Republican wins the Presidency. Do I really think he is going to take active steps to prevent the President from doing his job? No. Because he'll get raked over the coals, and I'd be right there to help drag him.

So he doesn't really mean it, and he didn't really say anything wrong in the first place, and you'll be against it if he does the thing( that nearly everybody believes he was implying as directly as a person could imply something). So your position would have to be that Obama should nominate a relative moderate and that the Senate should let it happen smoothly. I'm not getting that vibe from your posts, but I may have misread you.

 

[lfd0311]

I didn't see you post anything like this before.

Anyway, it is not liberalism to accuse conservatives of failing to love the country. We just think they are going about it wrong and/or have the wrong priorities. In fact conservatives are very passionate (as a group more passionate than liberals).

And there still is no contradiction. If you read the links I posted you would see conservative turn out was very poor in 2014 as well, so that should clue you in that you may be wrong.

You must just be skimming, then. It's absolutely a contradiction to constantly pretend to be a massive, united entity and then not show up to vote.

 

[UpaLoompa]

To the uber far-left, yeah, he's moderated on everything they've wanted. Being far-left isn't left enough. Hell, Bernie Sanders isn't left enough for what Communists want.

Well you seem to think that everyone that isn't Ted Cruz is a RINO while failing to realize that some of us remember discussions from conservatives like Reagan and HW Bush that would make you scream "Socialist!".

 

[lfd0311]

So he doesn't really mean it, and he didn't really say anything wrong in the first place, and you'll be against it if he does the thing( that nearly everybody believes he was implying as directly as a person could imply something). So your position would have to be that Obama should nominate a relative moderate and that the Senate should let it happen smoothly. I'm not getting that vibe from your posts, but I may have misread you.

I think that he thinks there is enough mindless hatred of Obama in this country that he is trying to set him self up to try, for lack of a better term, play the victim later. Any time a politician starts talking about leaving it up to the American people my "You're full of shit" meter starts going off. He's saying that the choice should be the next President's. He's that knowing that it won't happen in the event that a Republican wins, then he has something to attack Democrats for. To claim they weren't "playing fair", regardless of the fact that nobody else has ever played by those rules. If a Democrat wins the election, you don't hear anything about this from McConnell again.

From what I've seen, I'd say either Paul Watford or Patricia Millett would be good, moderate candidates. We will see what the Senate does.

 

[Higus]

To the uber far-left, yeah, he's moderated on everything they've wanted. Being far-left isn't left enough. Hell, Bernie Sanders isn't left enough for what Communists want.

I'm scratching my head here. Just out of curiosity, what do you think a moderate conservative stance on, say, healthcare reform or gun control would look like?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I'm scratching my head here. Just out of curiosity, what do you think a moderate conservative stance on, say, healthcare reform or gun control would look like?

There's already a long thread dedicated to gun control. I recommend searching for it and bumping it, rather than getting this topic too off track.

But, in short, Gun control doesn't need reform on the federal level. State governments need to get their heads out of their asses and realise that it's easy for criminals to get guns reguardless of laws, and they thrive under areas with strict gun control. Crime statistics support this, as well as common sense.

As for healthcare, adding government regulation and funding is the quickest way for costs to skyrocket. If you doubt this, look at our education system for reference.

 

[Strychnine]

Don't try a paint me as the unbalanced one when you reply with this shit.

How fragile are you

Seriously, what is wrong with you?

You seriously seem to think if people don't agree with you they are; well it was racist but now you want to make Whitman references. He had a brain tumor btw

I'm not the one who's hurling insults at anyone in here. I give conversation without insults or animosity. It's not about fragility. It's about treating people how you want to be treated. If you still want to curse me and call me MF'er.. Bring it.

 

[SMEAC]

I'm not the one who's hurling insults at anyone in here. I give conversation without insults or animosity. It's not about fragility. It's about treating people how you want to be treated. If you still want to curse me and call me MF'er.. Bring it.

I called you a motherfucker?

I said motherfuckers

Now I will call you a motherfucking pussy though, glad you stuck to driving a truck in the Air Force since everything rustles you.