War Wagon DDP is simply too strong to be overpowered by Khamzat

[188912345]

They are similar, and the fight isn’t going to go any better for Chimaev than it did for Brunson. I doubt we’d even be having this conversation if Chimaev actually had to fight contenders at 185 to get his title shot.

Except that one of them got KOd by Whittaker and the other submitted him.

And that one if them is undefeated and the other guy has a bunch of losses.

 

[Luthien]

Also that was a Great White Shark and would have been roughly just shy of 5,000 Ibs.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

That reminds me of when @BFoe gets stuck into a large Subway Meatball Marinara Sub

 

[Luthien]

That reminds me of when @BFoe gets stuck into a large Subway Meatball Marinara Sub

I found this video back from when we tried to get adopted and @BroRogan was being a nuisance

 

[Dr. Stoppage]

This is definitely a fight where I'd give anything happening from a quck Chimaev sub to a DDP TKO a 12% or 13% chance as too many possibilities on how it will play out.

Khamzat as great as what he is susceptible to an off night at the office (Burns, Usman). Can he get away with a bad night vs. DDP? Could be in trouble if it turns into a dogfight.

 

[Jman]

Is Dricus being more powerful than Khamzat really all that relevant?

Shouldnt the question be whether Khamzat has the stamina to keep up with Dricus if/when he makes it out of the first round.

 

[KramerFtw]

actually a real and relevant fight for once. I like it.

Ddp really is stronger and has surprising cardio despite his sloppy style.. and high iq.
idk if hes good enough to catch khamzat with a sub but he can certainly stuff takedowns from him. Hes more of a drag opponents down guy than pure power slams.. his best chance is an early swarming attack where he jumps on ddps back, probably while hes standing and somehow gets under his chin

 

[Chama]

The thing with Kamzat's TDs is that everybody knows they are coming, but somehow nobody can stop them.

As soon as somebody denies his first TD — which could very well be DDP — the aura around the TD will be gone. It will still be a threat, but psychology is a whore, and once people understand that you can actually deny him from taking you down and it really works in practice, they will start doing it more often. It's a mix of the opponent's self-confidence and also Kamzat's own self-confidence.

Kevin Holland agrees with this post

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Is Dricus being more powerful than Khamzat really all that relevant?

Shouldnt the question be whether Khamzat has the stamina to keep up with Dricus if/when he makes it out of the first round.

He's training with the guy who S&C tj dillashaw before he popped for EPO. So he should have a gastank - maybe more if is also introduced to special sauce.

 

[agibmxmma]

Let's not forget that Khamzat is actually a natural WW, and DDP is a huge MW. Khamzat just wasn't prepared to make the weight cut in the end.

DDP will simply be able to overpower Khamzat. He likely won't even have to sprawl or really actively defend much to stop him... He'll probably just dig for an under hook and throw him away. It'll be like when Cro cop fought wrestlers, or Tibau Vs Khabib, where the stronger guy was simply able to out power the grappler.

DDP is so strong he doesn't even need traditional wrestling training - he can take you down just by putting you into a headlock and falling to the ground.

The strength disadvantage will also cause Khamzat to gas quicker than usual.

Stick to the WWE fan as you dont grasp what a "natural WW" is it appears. Along with the rest of your post.

 

[agibmxmma]

Khamzat is 6'2 and massive
DDP is 6'0 and massive

TS doesn't know that Dricus had several welterweight bouts and titles.
And Khamzat failed to make welterweight years ago, massively.

Wasteland this shit

+1

 

[agibmxmma]

The thing with Kamzat's TDs is that everybody knows they are coming, but somehow nobody can stop them.

As soon as somebody denies his first TD — which could very well be DDP — the aura around the TD will be gone. It will still be a threat, but psychology is a whore, and once people understand that you can actually deny him from taking you down and it really works in practice, they will start doing it more often. It's a mix of the opponent's self-confidence and also Kamzat's own self-confidence.

Same things said about Khabib, Merab and GSP.. we see those outcomes. People also said Khabib, Merab and DDP had poor cardio. We now see that those game people praise their cardio going fwd.

 

[agibmxmma]

Dricus is 6'1" officially and fights at 215 - 220 lbs fight night. Not 6'0". Whittaker is around 5'11" - 6' and 190 - 195 lbs fight night. Dricus is much bigger than that. He did not look small even next to 260 lbs 6'5" Aspinall. Don't downgrade him to exaggerate the difference. He was barefoot taller than 6'1" Sean Strickland. Wait till you see them face to face. Their height difference is going to be negligible when they come face to face.

I don't know who is going to win, but people acting like Dricus has no technique to go with his freakish strength. It is actually Khamzat who relies on brute strength to outmuscle and outpower his opponents, which results in a big adrenaline dump in round 1. Not Dricus. He neutralized every opponent's grappling so far. The guy has been wrestling all his life and was doing Judo at age 4. He was already a blackbelt at age 14 and did no-gi wrestling until he switched to K-1 Kickboxing in his late teens.


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Both of them relative to Whittaker

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Also, Dricus barefoot is next to 6'2" 230 - 240 lbs former heavyweight Goddard

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Funny that people who don't know these Men, nor do the Fighters know yall.. try to post pics as if you know him personally and can speak with 110% certainty. Maybe go to the gym where they train and take actual pictures? And while at it, build a friendship with those yall speak on as if you know more then the next casual.

 

[Ibm]

People still counting out DDP is insane. Reminds me of how everyone GSP fought thought mostly he was going to lose his next matches but ends up winning. Its his style that makes him underogish but he's as solid of a complete fighter as it gets. DDP takes it but nothing flashy.

 

[MMAFanCal]

Funny that people who don't know these Men, nor do the Fighters know yall.. try to post pics as if you know him personally and can speak with 110% certainty. Maybe go to the gym where they train and take actual pictures? And while at it, build a friendship with those yall speak on as if you know more then the next casual.

What are you talking about? You are attacking me as a casual, yet you have no clue what I wrote. All of the things I posted in that post, were things that ACTUALLY happened. Not my subjective opinion. I separate my own personal opinions from the fact when I talked about Dricus past history, physical attributes even supporting it with actual pictures.

 

[fica]

So khazmat beat another big strong guy in usman in first round then hold him at bay for next two rounds with broken wrist and what will ddp do that khazmat did not see already

 

[188912345]

What are you talking about? You are attacking me as a casual, yet you have no clue what I wrote. All of the things I posted in that post, were things that ACTUALLY happened. Not my subjective opinion. I separate my own personal opinions from the fact when I talked about Dricus past history, physical attributes even supporting it with actual pictures.

Du Plessis began training in judo at the age of five, followed by wrestling at twelve, then kickboxing at fourteen.[3][4].

You said he wrestled all his life and started Judo age 4, slightly incorrect but no big deal.

 

[Tweak896]

People overplayed how big Khamzat is at WW. Acting like no one has ever cut so much to get there. His frame seemed to be about Usman's size. Khamzat isn't a large MW, but DDP is. Still, don't think size alone makes up for Khamzat's pedigree of wrestling. We're not talking about size difference like big vs small HWs, it's more subtle.

Also we know going by stats DDP has defended 1/1 TDD attempt from Tavares and Izzy. 0/1 (Taken down by one attempt) by Till and Whittaker. Went 1/2 (defended 1, taken down another) against Brunson, and was controlled the whole first round almost.

So because of his pressure style most don't even attempt a takedown, but most that have were able to get him down. Also we're not talking high level wrestlers and it's a short list.

 

[The XL]

Khamzat is either going to sub him within two minutes or DDP is going to brutally beat the shit out of him. I don't see the fight playing out any other way

 

[MMAFanCal]

Du Plessis began training in judo at the age of five, followed by wrestling at twelve, then kickboxing at fourteen.[3][4].

You said he wrestled all his life and started Judo age 4, slightly incorrect but no big deal.

Though Judo is focused on throws, hooks, sweeps and locks etc., Judo also has a lot of wrestling and grappling baked into it. It might be subjective, but to me Judo is also an extension of wrestling.

Dricus competed in South African Judo Nationals and according to him, he did not like competing with a gi on, which is why he switched to no-gi wrestling.