War Wagon DDP is simply too strong to be overpowered by Khamzat

[benebox]

Technique > strength.
Can't wait to find out what will happen. I'm super excited to find out how this one goes down, such a great fight.

DDP is the exception to this rule.

 

[MMACro]

then submitted Brunson.

Dricus didnt sub Bumson,was a TKO

Derek Brunson is the best wrestler the division has ever had.

Lmfao wtf
Weidman,Sonnen,Khamzat all better then him
Romero also when he wants to wrestle

 

[CoconutHead]

And MMACro- you laughing but the facts remain: 1- Usman took the fight coming off a loss and on no notice and no camp. 2- He'd never fought at 185 before. And he STILL gave your hero all he could stand. And Chimaev himself said and still says this was hands down his toughest fight in his career. Think about that and then hee-haw like a donkey all you want

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

kahmzat will win round 1 via super fast takedown, then either a backtake or darce to seal it. dricus doesn't have the grappling knowledge to survive that first round against fresh kamzhat.

 

[Luckyme]

The thing with Kamzat's TDs is that everybody knows they are coming, but somehow nobody can stop them.

As soon as somebody denies his first TD — which could very well be DDP — the aura around the TD will be gone. It will still be a threat, but psychology is a whore, and once people understand that you can actually deny him from taking you down and it really works in practice, they will start doing it more often. It's a mix of the opponent's self-confidence and also Kamzat's own self-confidence.

It's already happened before.

Aliskerov stuffed all of Khamzat's takedowns and even took Khamzat down at one point but that didn't discourage him. He went on to KO Aliskerov a few seconds later. He also faced a fair bit of resistance from Usman but relentlessly pursued and eventually got the takedown.

People forget Khamzat has a B-game to fall back on. His striking is more than serviceable and he's shown real one-shot KO power.

 

[Poirierfan]

DDP will get wrestle fucked for the first 1 1/2 rds. DDP is a realist and is anticipating it. After that though DDP will stop Khamzat in the 3rd or 4th rd imo. I'm putting $100 on DDP by TKO.

 

[ninja boot]

Dricus fought in 3 different organizations. Over 30% of his wins are via submission. He has fought many wrestlers in the past. Bahati was a very accomplished wrestler/grappler (the same guy who slapped Dricus in the face off). He said he was going to submit Dricus, but Dricus submitted him in like 2 minutes. Brunson is also a very accomplished wrestler who took gold medalist Romero down in their fight. Dricus submitted him in later rounds. Dricus main challenge in that fight was his cardio issue due to his nose only providing 13% Oxygen, but he was able to survive the early storm and then submitted Brunson.

Even with Whittaker, Whittaker could not control Dricus on the ground. Dricus just popped back up in 10 seconds. However, when Dricus hip tossed Whittaker to the ground, Dricus controlled him for the rest of the round. Big difference.

Darren Till might not be a wrestler, but remember before the Dricus fight, he was all over the place bragging how he had been training with Khamzat for 2 years before the fight, but Dricus submitted him.

Then there is the fact that Dricus participates in BJJ tournaments and submits BJJ blackbelts. Granted, his size and strength are a big factor there.

Just because Dricus' fight predominantly happened on the feet, does not mean he is not an extremely high level grappler/wrestler. Add the size and strength to the fact that he has been grappling/wrestling since age 4, he won't be getting ragdolled by Khamzat. it is actually going to be a tough fight in anyone except diehard Khamzat fan's book who think Khamzat ragdolls Dricus and submits him in round 1. The recency bias from Whittaker fight, seems to have clouded people's minds. Anyone looking objectively, can see that.

I appreciate the response.
Yes i'm basing this on his highest level of competition which to me is the opposition in the UFC. I don't doubt DDP can competently wrestle but it is clear that he prefers to lean on a strike heavy gameplan with very strong body kicks to mix things up.
Many can wrestle at this level but few can wrestle at the level it'd take to nullify the level Khamzat brings. BJJ is a great asset to have but it doesn't have the same level of throws or TDD a pure wrestler brings.
Till is a fighter I personally liked and wish he'd have had more success in the sport but unfortunately he never found any after that collaboration.
As far as competition and mma math I personally think Khamzat had a tougher road through Usman, Burns, The Leech than DDP did through a washed Izzy and 2 fights against Strickland and Brunson.

I try not to focus on shit that happens out of competition as its clear most of Khamzat's detractors lean heavily on the Diaz fight fallout and his shady ties which are inconsequential to his fighting ability.
Picking the winner of this isn't clear to me but fortunately I don't gamble and can sit back and watch it unfold without vested interest as just a fan of the sport.

 

[MMAFanCal]

As far as competition and mma math I personally think Khamzat had a tougher road through Usman, Burns, The Leech than DDP did through a washed Izzy and 2 fights against Strickland and Brunson.

Don't agree at all. Leech is not even worthy of a conversation. He has accomplished pretty much nothing before or since. Usman fought on a 10 day notice, off the couch and without and preparation. His knees are shot and is old, way past his prime. Also, Usman is a true welterweight who stepped up to middleweight. He had a big size disadvantage. Burns was fighting at 155 lbs for most of his career and went to 170 lbs. If you see his old pictures, he is barely bigger than Dustin Poirier. Still, Khamzat had a tough time during his fight with Usman and Burns.

 

[ninja boot]

Don't agree at all. Leech is not even worthy of a conversation. He has accomplished pretty much nothing before or since. Usman fought on a 10 day notice, off the couch and without and preparation. Also, Usman is a true welterweight who stepped up to middleweight. He had a big size disadvantage. Burns was fighting at 155 lbs and is barely bigger than Dustin Poirier. Still, Khamzat had a tough time during his fight with Usman and Burns.

so agree to disagree then. enjoy the fight bro.

 

[jeskola]

I'm rooting for DDP but people on her are forgetting Khamzat has striking too.

 

[188912345]

Derek Brunson is the best wrestler the division has ever had. He was never able to put everything together, but he has always been incredibly underrated. Dude outwrestled Romero.

This is funny because old version of Brunson had the kind of 3 minutes of cardio people imagine Khamzat has.

 

[FrappeDuRocma]

He got taken down by Brunson, Till and Robert, Khamzat will take and keep him down, if he survives, then, he has a better chance to win.

 

[xhaydenx]

DDP is gonna rip this guy apart. Can't wait.

 

[Luthien]

Brock is simply too strong to be wrestled by Cain @HI SCOTT NEWMAN remember that?

 

[FrappeDuRocma]

Derek Brunson is the best wrestler the division has ever had. He was never able to put everything together, but he has always been incredibly underrated. Dude outwrestled Romero.

That was 38 years old Brunson, he had 1 round in him.

 

[Gilday]

I've always felt that Chimaev beats everyone and does it relatively easily.. except against DDP

Pretty good odds it happens, but I literally cannot envision DDP losing to him

 

[Bradillac]

Dricus didnt sub Bumson,was a TKO

Lmfao wtf
Weidman,Sonnen,Khamzat all better then him
Romero also when he wants to wrestle

Wrong. Brunson outwrestled Romero and would get those other guys down too.

 

[Bradillac]

This is funny because old version of Brunson had the kind of 3 minutes of cardio people imagine Khamzat has.

They are similar, and the fight isn’t going to go any better for Chimaev than it did for Brunson. I doubt we’d even be having this conversation if Chimaev actually had to fight contenders at 185 to get his title shot.

 

[Neck&Neck]

DDP is so strong I heard he bench presses full grown hippopotamuses

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Brock is simply too strong to be wrestled by Cain @HI SCOTT NEWMAN remember that?

I think I said that too BUT you have to remember I was going off Brock doing an F5 to that adult Shark.

Also that was a Great White Shark and would have been roughly just shy of 5,000 Ibs. You have to admit it was impressive the way he lifted it, no question about it.