Media Dana White FURIOUS Jon Jones STILL Isn't P4P #1 "Have To Get RID Of These Clowns"

Jon! said:
So you're saying that dominance in the LW rankings for about 3 years > dominance in the LHW and then HW rankings (minus the inactivity of course) for about 10-12 years?

<cruzshake>

Sorry, no.

If Islam wants to be considered the #1 P4P in any serious manner, he must of course go up to 170 and win the belt and defend.

Until then, I can't take that logic seriously.

Although (again) I enjoy the discourse (unlike Dana)!
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You are retarded even for Sherdog standars. Congrats.

p4p ranks NOW.. Jones wins over Rampage Rashad and Machida does not count.. not even his robbery over Reyes or his split decision with "Muay Thai Black belt" (LMFAO) Thiago Santos.
His cherrypicked wins over Gane and 90 years old Stipe do.
 
SalvadorAllende said:
You are retarded even for Sherdog standars. Congrats.

p4p ranks NOW.. Jones wins over Rampage Rashad and Machida does not count.. not even his robbery over Reyes or his split decision with "Muay Thai Black belt" (LMFAO) Thiago Santos.
His cherrypicked wins over Gane and 90 years old Stipe do.
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How was Gane cherry picked? That's daft.

Also, no need to be rude. I'm not rude to you.
 
Jon! said:
How was Gane cherry picked? That's daft.

Also, no need to be rude. I'm not rude to you.
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I'm rude because this is the internet. Get over it.


Also Gane was coming of a loss where he got grapplefucked by Francis (lol) and a win over jobber Tuivasa. Even Blaydes had more of a case for the title shot.. but well, he can actually wrestle.
 
Snoowpy said:
I don't see Islam Ducking. Makes sense. A P4P no 1. Should want to fight Aspinall. He should be motivated by it. Now Jones as a great toolset, great fighting style, getting up there in age, but his fight IQ the best.
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AMAZINGUFC said:
The difference in mentality is extreme and inversely proportional. While Islam fights anyone, likes to test himself and prove that he is in fact better, Jones does everything he can to get away from Aspinall, uses incredible rhetoric to try to justify the unjustifiable, not fulfilling the unification against the interim and tries to turn a blind eye to what most fight fans want, the UFC wants and the media also points out. Such a speech is bizarre and it would be unacceptable for such a person to be considered greater than someone with the spirit and curriculum of Makhachev.
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Islam quite literally defended this year against ancient perfect style matchup Poirier instead of
  1. Charles or Justin who had both finished Poirier
  2. Arman or Max who then beat those two at UFC 300
  3. Gamrot who had the much longer streak and was #2-3 contender over Poirier, was the previous official backup for the LW title fight, literally fought on the same card as Poirier's last fight which was the entire justification for Poirier's shot and so was just as ready, and in hindsight is the dude who everybody credited Poirier's performance for from simply having TRAINED with Gamrot ahead of the fight
And STILL had a tough fight after his ducking and cherrypicking lmao.

Delusional Dagestanis.
 
markg171 said:
I like how you're counting Islam's 13 fight win streak going back to 2016 as proof he should be P4P #1 but not Jones's far longer streak going back to 2008 as proof for him because "LHW and HW suck".

Let me know when Islam goes on a 30 fight streak. Oh wait he already got KO'd by unranked Martins.
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Just recent history then, Jon has had only 2 wins in almost half a decade one against an extremely washed Stipe and a one dimensional Gane, and if you want to count Dom Reyes which many people thought he lost too.

Islam has had 9 in the same span including Dan Hooker, Oliviera(P4P #2 at the time), Volk x2 (P4P #1), Poirier +4 more. In the hardest division finishing most of all of them

Activity should be paramount for the CURRENT Active P4P list and Islam has had the best record recently and strength of opposition.
 
Jon got worse and put on more pounds. She should be moving down the list.
 
markg171 said:
Islam quite literally defended this year against ancient perfect style matchup Poirier instead of
  1. Charles or Justin who had both finished Poirier
  2. Arman or Max who then beat those two at UFC 300
  3. Gamrot who had the much longer streak and was #2-3 contender over Poirier, was the previous official backup for the LW title fight, literally fought on the same card as Poirier's last fight which was the entire justification for Poirier's shot and so was just as ready, and in hindsight is the dude who everybody credited Poirier's performance for from simply having TRAINED with Gamrot ahead of the fight
And STILL had a tough fight after his ducking and cherrypicking lmao.

Delusional Dagestanis.
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Stop being ridiculous.

Islam will take on anyone, unlike Jones.

As we see now with the rematch with Arman and already asking for the winner Charles.

Jon doesn't even like to bring Tom into the conversation.

They are totally different spirits.

Totally different mindset.
 
AMAZINGUFC said:
Stop being ridiculous.

Islam will take on anyone, unlike Jones.

As we see now with the rematch with Arman and already asking for the winner Charles.

Jon doesn't even like to bring Tom into the conversation.

They are totally different spirits.

Totally different mindset.
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Islam literally turned down Gamrot last year to fight short notice Volk instead, and then created another fake scenario to fight Poirier instead of Charles, Justin, Max, Arman, or once again Gamrot this year.

And is now sitting here 6 months later without that defence against Arman either.

Wtf are you talking about?
 
Black9 said:
Jon Jones moves UP to #2 P4P, but Dana still hates he isn't #1.

Is he P4P #1 now? Or where do you rank him?

I still have him 3rd behind Islam/Alex cause of activity/true title defenses.
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Dana should be careful what he wishes for.

AI might rank Jones even lower than he is now. Given his inactivity and quality of opponents, Islam, Topuria, and Alex would probably be rated above Jon.
 
Weird outburst. Islam is clearly number one p4p
 
A guy with 1 title defense in the last 4.5 years shouldn't even be in the top 5 pound for pound.

And he didn't even defend against anyone in the top 5.
 
Floyd had 2 years out of the ring and came back to beat the great Marquez at a catchweight, which he didn't bother making and he was immediately p4p 1

I know boxing isn't mma, but surely former body of work should count, especially considering like Floyd, Jon is undefeated

You guys just don't like him and that's fine, but he is the p4p1 and as it stands the greatest of all time
 
Ah yes. The bald clown tyrant cant control human beings enough to parrot his opinions so hes just going to replace them with a programmable AI that wont factor in context like Stipe being 42 and retired 4 years and the implications of that when we already have an interim champ that Jon ducked.
 
There are 2 active heavyweights in the world right now that have a legitimate claim of being the best above Jon.

Hard to call him the best P4P when he's not even the best in his division.

Fighting Stipe shouldn't have moved him up at all. I'm sure Ngannou can sit in PFL and beat up Fedor, Randy, Sylvia, Cain, Brock and all the other former old guys, should that push him to the top of the rankings?
 
What would AI even do here? Dana that much of a dope that he doesn't realize the AI will tell you whatever you put in? AI is not going to give him what he wants unless they they weigh previous activity over current activity which will screw all the rankings up royally. Wouldn't be surprised to see Aldo on there.

Should base the learning model off the opinions of the same media and watch Jones get placed at #5 just to piss Dana off.
 
markg171 said:
Islam literally turned down Gamrot last year to fight short notice Volk instead, and then created another fake scenario to fight Poirier instead of Charles, Justin, Max, Arman, or once again Gamrot this year.

And is now sitting here 6 months later without that defence against Arman either.

Wtf are you talking about?
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I told you to stop and you kept acting ridiculous.

I don't know if you're part of Jones' team, his family or just a troll, but if not, you need to get some treatment.

Islam is a real fighter, in the old sense of the word. Fights happen with him.

Unlike Jones, he'll face Arman again and then whoever's next.

Just wait and watch a real fighter compete. Win or lose, but at least test yourself and do what true fight fans want.
 
Imagine buying the lie that Miocic is actually the #8 ranked HW in the UFC.

Look, more arguing about a mythological topic with no grounding in reality. P4P, you guys crack me up.
 
Jon! said:
Islam Makhachev is growing on me lol

But in all seriousness.

There is simply no argument whatsoever for "I beat a featherweight twice" Islam to be ahead of Jon Jones.

Media members: if that's you, you are wrong.
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Dawg, he beat Charles and Dustin
Two of the greatest lightweights ever in their prime (or close to their prime in Dustin's case)
Jones waited till Francis left, beat gane (decent win), beat up a firefighter after three years of not fighting Francis. How is he number one again?
Now if we're talking about GOAT. Then it's either him or DJ
 
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