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News Chuck Liddell Arrested for Domestic Violence (UPDATE: With Official Statement)

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Credo, Oct 11, 2021.

  1. Captain Herb 10000 Likes

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    TMZ can label anonymous sources whatever the hell they want. Lawyers literally have the word law in their name and are a part of the law/legal enforcement system, so whatever. But let's look at this logically. We know you were wrong when you said that if someone calls the cops reporting a domestic dispute, someone HAS to be arrested. It's just not true. If there are no signs of a physical incident, and both parties deny it, No one is getting arrested on the say-so of someone else. We know that there were no injuries. We're told neither party had injuries. This casts Chuck's statement into doubt and provides no probable cause to assume there had been a physical altercation. That probable cause must have come from a witness, (their child/children), or Chuck, or his wife during the interview. I don't believe it was their kid and I don't know if they could legally be questioned at that point anyway. It must have been the Lidell parents. Now, and bear with me here because this is important, If both Lidells had denied anything had happened, the cops would have been forced to leave, having no evidence of a domestic altercation. That means that one or both admitted to the cops that something physical between the two of them had gone down. Because "law enforcement sources" say that an aggressor could not be determined, It means that they were blaming each other. At that point the cops said we know something happened, we don't know who initiated it but one of you is going to take the fall. Chuck is probably telling the truth here when he says that he volunteered to be the one, for the sake of the kids--but he was still mad as hell at her, which is evidenced by his scathing statement on his release. So here's the thing Chuck is leaving out--he is making up or greatly exaggerating his injuries because they were not apparent to the investigating officers and that she blames him for the fight just as much as he blames her. As per usual, statements like his are not the whole truth and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
     
  2. Fioretti Beef

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    You keep changing your premise as all your shit gets shot down. That's pretty funny, bud. Just keep throwing shit at the wall until it sticks, right? Classic.
     
  3. Captain Herb 10000 Likes

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    I believe I have explained the situation to my satisfaction, all the pieces fit, the dots are connected, it makes sense now. It just took a little logical thinking, using the information at hand--which I suppose some people forgo around here and instead hang their hat on "I'm a sherdog expert, I've done this for years, I know everything, you're stupid, blah, blah, blah.
     
  4. Fioretti Beef

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    This is literally what you've been doing for days. You can't admit that you're not very educated on the subject and have little experience, but hey, at least I got you to google some shit and alter your stance. Next step would be to admit and defer. One day, sahn. One day.
     
  5. Robocok Black Belt

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    I believe him. I went through a similar situation with my girlfriend a few years ago after she assaulted me. She was so wracked with guilt afterwards that she paid over $6k to bail me out the next day. In California, OJ Simpson law says that someone has to go to jail when the police are called for domestic violence.
     
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  6. Dbreiden83080 Andle My Riddum

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    Perhaps the cop was simply being cool with him that night, I was not there and got the details filled in. But he was told he was being placed under arrest. And then released later with no charges filed. Chuck if all they needed was a cooling off. Why did charges need to be filed? Couldn’t they have just cut him loose a few hours later after detaining him?
     
  7. Fioretti Beef

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    You're not "arrested" unless you've been charged and booked. If you're taken into custody and released without being charged, you were only detained.

    In Chuck's case, there was a mandatory arrest, which comes with a mandatory charge.
     
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    Love Chuck but his story makes no sense.
     
  9. Gamrot White Belt

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    This thread fermented nicely.
     
  10. diffuzn Yellow Belt

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    was he charged?
     
  11. Motleysubs Blue Belt

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    Starting off preaching God, snitching on people that used THC, beating all the legends of the last era, being busted for drugs more than once, getting in multiple accidents, having a fake persona, all the drama with evans and DC, multiple run ins with the law, and now positive evidence that he beats the mother of his children in front of them. There are legitimate examples of double standard due to race, Jones isn’t one of them
     
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    people are so extreme now days, court of public opinion is rabid and dangerous.

    I don't know what happened with Chuck, wasn't there, but his statement that came later is exactly why I don't jump to conclusions. her version might be true, his might be, it is probably something in the middle, I certainly don't know.

    sad thing is there are plenty out there that see wait and see, allowing facts and process their place = casting doubt or not supporting victims.
     
  13. kflo Titanium Belt

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    what does "positive evidence" mean?
     
  14. Motleysubs Blue Belt

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    Actual proof not circumstantial. Test results, pictures, sworn testimony, a wrecked car, recording.
     
  15. kflo Titanium Belt

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    you don't have "actual proof" of what you said though.....
     
  16. Motleysubs Blue Belt

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    So you haven’t seen both the cars wrecked? Or read/heard from the commission, ufc, and Jones himself about failed tests? You can also read the police reports. You can watch the body cam when he was in NM. He’s an amazing fighter, but is a POS.
     
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  17. kflo Titanium Belt

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    i was talking about " positive evidence that he beats the mother of his children in front of them."
     
  18. Motleysubs Blue Belt

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    Ok police say her bleeding, stating she was scared of him, witnessed erratic and violent behavior, and the daughter asked for the police to be called. Combine that with a history drugs and legal problems is called a pattern. So not similar at all
     
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    From what Big John was saying Chuck actually appears to be the victim of the violence. That just the way california law works basically any DV call someone basically has to be arrested to seperate the two individuals for a period of time(A cooldown period i'd imagine). Officers stated they would have to take her where chuck was showing the signs of violence on his body, but chuck volunteered for them to take him in. Doubt John would lie about that either where he used to be a California cop, and I believe he said one of his sons still is.
     
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    so, circumstantial evidence.....agreed.
     

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