Elections Chatgpt already calling Musk Shadow President

[PBAC]

I asked chat gpt if the recent budgeting debacle was a victory for trump and it replied it was a mixed result for president elect trump and shadow president musk. It was not promted to do this. What do you think of this title for an unelected shadow president?



"However, the final legislation did not include Trump's desired debt ceiling increase. Democratic leaders viewed this exclusion as a significant concession from Trump and Musk, declaring it a victory for their party. Representative Pramila Jayapal stated that Democrats "forced President-elect Trump and Shadow President Elon Musk to back down from the 11th-hour demand to pass a suspension of the debt ceiling."

In summary, while Trump succeeded in influencing the reduction of the spending bill's size, his failure to secure a debt ceiling increase suggests that the outcome was a partial victory, with notable concessions to Democratic opposition."

Shadow president?

"The term "Shadow President" is likely being used colloquially or symbolically, rather than as an official title, to describe Elon Musk's perceived influence over political or governmental matters alongside President-elect Donald Trump. It may reflect public perception that Musk plays an outsized advisory or policymaking role, particularly during the period of transition leading up to Trump's 2025 inauguration."

 

[PBAC]

Probably should have read that twice before posting.

Anyway...

 

[Ruprecht]

Which version of Chat GPT are you using? GPT-4-turbo isn't that up to date (cutoff is April 2023, though it hallucinates that it's September 2021).
I asked it who was the Shadow President of the US and it gave a boilerplate reply about Shadow Presidents.

 

[Volador]

Not thread worthy. The chatbot just gave you a quote in order to show you the POV of democrat representatives. It didn't give you an "opinion". Then it explained what the quote meant.

For whatever it's worth it told me this, which is pretty balanced and true:

Is Musk a "Shadow President"?​

Musk is not a shadow president in the traditional sense, but his unique combination of wealth, influence, technological control, and direct engagement with political and societal issues makes him an exceptionally powerful figure. His actions often affect national and global politics in ways that resemble the influence of a political leader. Whether this is seen as positive or troubling depends on one's perspective on the role of unelected individuals in shaping policy and public discourse.

 

[PEB]

I asked chat gpt if the recent budgeting debacle was a victory for trump and it replied it was a mixed result for president elect trump and shadow president musk. It was not promted to do this. What do you think of this title for an unelected shadow president?



"However, the final legislation did not include Trump's desired debt ceiling increase. Democratic leaders viewed this exclusion as a significant concession from Trump and Musk, declaring it a victory for their party. Representative Pramila Jayapal stated that Democrats "forced President-elect Trump and Shadow President Elon Musk to back down from the 11th-hour demand to pass a suspension of the debt ceiling."

In summary, while Trump succeeded in influencing the reduction of the spending bill's size, his failure to secure a debt ceiling increase suggests that the outcome was a partial victory, with notable concessions to Democratic opposition."

Shadow president?

"The term "Shadow President" is likely being used colloquially or symbolically, rather than as an official title, to describe Elon Musk's perceived influence over political or governmental matters alongside President-elect Donald Trump. It may reflect public perception that Musk plays an outsized advisory or policymaking role, particularly during the period of transition leading up to Trump's 2025 inauguration."

Elon is constantly fighting with Sam Altman and no doubt he has threaten OpenAI since Trump won the Presidency. Elon feels like he been empowered with the Trump's Presidency. An I believe that Sam had nothing to do with this but he LLM has been trained by scraping websites that take shots at Elon. Elon likely has a lot people AI people who feel like he is to much a bully.

 

[PBAC]

Which version of Chat GPT are you using? GPT-4-turbo isn't that up to date (cutoff is April 2023, though it hallucinates that it's September 2021).
I asked it who was the Shadow President of the US and it gave a boilerplate reply about Shadow Presidents.

Im not sure where to check. Its up to date to the minute nearly. Here i ask it for todays news

As of December 21, 2024, here are some of the latest news stories:

International Affairs

Ceasefire in the Middle East: President Biden has called the recent ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah "good news," signaling a potential de-escalation in the region.

Russian-Ukrainian Conflict: Ukraine reports that Russian forces have launched a deadly missile attack on Kyiv, resulting in significant casualties. In response, a reported attack on Russia's Kursk has led to five fatalities.


Domestic News

Government Funding: President Biden has signed a government funding bill, averting a potential shutdown and ensuring continued federal operations.

Legal Proceedings: Special counsel has moved to abandon cases against former President Trump, indicating a shift in ongoing legal matters.


Health

FDA Approval: The FDA has approved the first medication for obstructive sleep apnea, offering a new treatment option for those affected by this condition.


Economy

Stock Market Update: U.S. stock markets ended flat after a Federal Reserve-induced selloff, with early gains fading by the end of the trading session.


Entertainment

Celebrity Legal Action: Actress Blake Lively has filed a lawsuit against a co-star, alleging a series of serious allegations.


Please note that news developments are rapidly evolving. For the most current information, refer to trusted news sources.

 

[Ruprecht]

Not thread worthy. The chatbot just gave you a quote in order to show you the POV of democrat representatives. It didn't give you an "opinion". Then it explained what the quote meant.

For whatever it's worth it told me this, which is pretty balance and true:

Is Musk a "Shadow President"?​

Musk is not a shadow president in the traditional sense, but his unique combination of wealth, influence, technological control, and direct engagement with political and societal issues makes him an exceptionally powerful figure. His actions often affect national and global politics in ways that resemble the influence of a political leader. Whether this is seen as positive or troubling depends on one's perspective on the role of unelected individuals in shaping policy and public discourse.

Chat GPTo Mini gave me this:

Is Musk a "Shadow President"?

ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
No, Elon Musk is not a "shadow president." The term "shadow president" typically refers to a figure who holds significant influence or power behind the scenes, without formally holding the office of the president. While Musk is an influential and highly visible figure, especially in the realms of technology, business, and space exploration, there is no credible evidence or official designation that he holds any secret or unofficial control over U.S. governance or functions like a "shadow president."

Musk has, however, been a public supporter of some political figures, including former President Donald Trump, and has occasionally weighed in on political matters, particularly those related to innovation, technology, and the economy. He has also been involved in various advisory roles with government officials, but these are all within the scope of his business expertise, not as a behind-the-scenes political operative.

If the term "shadow president" is being used in a metaphorical or satirical sense, it's possible that some might use it to describe Musk’s outsized influence in shaping certain aspects of public policy, particularly those that intersect with technology, space exploration, and environmental issues. However, it’s important to distinguish between figurative language and formal political roles.

For the most accurate understanding of Musk's current influence and political affiliations, I recommend checking the latest news sources.

And GPT-4-Turbo (with internet connectivity under MS Copilot) gave me this:

Is Musk a "Shadow President"?
Copilot said:
The term "Shadow President" has been used recently to describe Elon Musk's significant influence over political decisions, particularly within the Republican Party. This label gained traction after Musk played a key role in derailing a major spending bill, which led to speculation about his influence over President-elect Donald Trump12.

Musk's actions, such as his vocal opposition to the bill and his frequent presence at Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, have led some to question whether he is exerting more influence than traditional political figures23. However, it's important to note that this term is more of a political commentary rather than an official title or role.

Seems pretty balanced and not a hallucination.

 

[Ruprecht]

Im not sure where to check. Its up to date to the minute nearly. Here i ask it for todays news

As of December 21, 2024, here are some of the latest news stories:

International Affairs

Ceasefire in the Middle East: President Biden has called the recent ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah "good news," signaling a potential de-escalation in the region.

Russian-Ukrainian Conflict: Ukraine reports that Russian forces have launched a deadly missile attack on Kyiv, resulting in significant casualties. In response, a reported attack on Russia's Kursk has led to five fatalities.


Domestic News

Government Funding: President Biden has signed a government funding bill, averting a potential shutdown and ensuring continued federal operations.

Legal Proceedings: Special counsel has moved to abandon cases against former President Trump, indicating a shift in ongoing legal matters.


Health

FDA Approval: The FDA has approved the first medication for obstructive sleep apnea, offering a new treatment option for those affected by this condition.


Economy

Stock Market Update: U.S. stock markets ended flat after a Federal Reserve-induced selloff, with early gains fading by the end of the trading session.


Entertainment

Celebrity Legal Action: Actress Blake Lively has filed a lawsuit against a co-star, alleging a series of serious allegations.


Please note that news developments are rapidly evolving. For the most current information, refer to trusted news sources.

It's an online version then. You can ask it which version it is and what it's cutoff date is, although it might bullshit you / hallucinate.
Although Copilot is ChatGPT 4 Turbo with internet access, and it's reply is neutral.

 

[PBAC]

It's an online version then. You can ask it which version it is and what it's cutoff date is, although it might bullshit you / hallucinate.
Although Copilot is ChatGPT 4 Turbo with internet access, and it's reply is neutral.

It says
I am ChatGPT, built on OpenAI's GPT-4 architecture, with capabilities tailored for interactive and conversational use. While my model is based on GPT-4, my specific version and capabilities may differ depending on the platform or updates provided. You’re using me via the ChatGPT app for Android.

 

[Ruprecht]

It says
I am ChatGPT, built on OpenAI's GPT-4 architecture, with capabilities tailored for interactive and conversational use. While my model is based on GPT-4, my specific version and capabilities may differ depending on the platform or updates provided. You’re using me via the ChatGPT app for Android.

Interesting. Are you a subscriber? I never use it on phones.

 

[Andy Capp]

Interesting. Are you a subscriber? I never use it on phones.

Copilot is also available on Android via Skype.

 

[UberHere]

I’m cool with that. Hail president Musk

 

[idrankyourbeer]

i managed to convince chat gpt that the san jose sharks eliminated the pittsburgh penguins in 6 games of the second round of the 2022-2023 stanley cup playoffs, despite neither team making the playoffs that year and both teams playing in seperate conferences so that scenario would be impossible to even happen.

i don't think it shares the same logic with other people though but it'll spew a bunch of bullshit to me based on whackadoodle algorythms and shit that i ask or tell it.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I’m cool with that. Hail president Musk

vice president trump wouldn't be so cool with it though

vice president trump (probably):

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Lol, no, no it did not. You really do need to reread your op

 

[Flower2dPeople]

I asked chat gpt if the recent budgeting debacle was a victory for trump and it replied it was a mixed result for president elect trump and shadow president musk. It was not promted to do this. What do you think of this title for an unelected shadow president?



"However, the final legislation did not include Trump's desired debt ceiling increase. Democratic leaders viewed this exclusion as a significant concession from Trump and Musk, declaring it a victory for their party. Representative Pramila Jayapal stated that Democrats "forced President-elect Trump and Shadow President Elon Musk to back down from the 11th-hour demand to pass a suspension of the debt ceiling."

In summary, while Trump succeeded in influencing the reduction of the spending bill's size, his failure to secure a debt ceiling increase suggests that the outcome was a partial victory, with notable concessions to Democratic opposition."

Shadow president?

"The term "Shadow President" is likely being used colloquially or symbolically, rather than as an official title, to describe Elon Musk's perceived influence over political or governmental matters alongside President-elect Donald Trump. It may reflect public perception that Musk plays an outsized advisory or policymaking role, particularly during the period of transition leading up to Trump's 2025 inauguration."

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Imagine frothing at the mouth so hard that you run to a karate forum to post it, and it doesn’t even say what you think it says.

 

[Makani]

I'm pretty sure Trump thinks Elon is a complete loser, he just kissed enough ass.

 

[PBAC]

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Imagine frothing at the mouth so hard that you run to a karate forum to post it, and it doesn’t even say what you think it says.
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Imagine willingly choosing that username

 

[nostradumbass]

You had to ask a chatbot whether something was a victory for Trump, and decided to a make a thread that is quoted Primila Jayapal giving the newest DNC point?